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Offline dpsk

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Cause of trigger bite?
« on: February 18, 2018, 06:49:35 PM »
I apologize if this topic's already been addressed.
Has there been a determination as to what causes the trigger bite or pinch on the P-10C?  I have to be careful about placing my finger higher on the trigger face in order to mitigate the chance of trigger bite.  I've never had this issue on any other pistol, and I have relatively slim hands and fingers.  I've tried sanding the base of the trigger and smoothing out the ridges a bit.  There really doesn't seem to be that much of a difference in the shape and placement of the trigger shoe between the P-10C and other popular (Glock) striker fired pistols.
Overall I really enjoy my P-10C, but that darn bite can be quite distracting.   
Edit;  I'm sure it must have to do something with the energy involved when actually shooting, as I don't get pinched when dry firing.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2018, 07:03:25 PM by dpsk »

Offline cremaley

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Re: Cause of trigger bite?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2018, 07:57:02 PM »
Unfortunately the only way to get rid of the trigger finger pinch is to replace it with a flat trigger by either HBI or later this month by CGW. I have the HBI trigger on mine and really like it.
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Offline earlan357

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Re: Cause of trigger bite?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2018, 10:11:52 AM »
Finger position for one thing.  Of course it varies from shooter to shooter.  Mine lands just low enough to get slapped by the stock trigger "fangs" but not by the fangs on my HBI.

The safety lever also sticks out slightly past the front surface of the trigger, and the trigger face is sort of "wedge" shaped.  This concentrates more force on a small area and makes a trigger feel heavier than it is.  Imagine if the trigger was as thin as a razor blade and you get the idea.  Apparently non-US guns have a flatter trigger cross section, but US import laws require some guns to have a "target" trigger for "sporting" purposes, hence the wedge shape and serrations.  Same reason Glock 19/26s have a serrated trigger instead of smooth like the G17.

Regarding your hypothesis on energy during shooting, you're right.  The trigger action is the same as a Glock.  While other guns simply have a spring that provides consistent forward pressure to return the trigger, the Glock/P10 works in reverse.  As soon as the trigger releases the sear, the trigger spring keeps pulling the trigger rearward.  The trigger weight at this point is zero.  When the slide returns to battery, the striker leg catches on the trigger bar.  This force pushes the trigger forward against the trigger finger.  So your finger feels ~5# of force at the break, 0# after, and 5# again on reset.  Depending on trigger finger timing, the trigger can literally "slap" your finger as it pushes forward.  This is also why it's so easy to ride the reset on the Glock/P10 vs say an M&P or any other striker fired gun with a traditional sear/trigger return spring setup.  To test this while dryfiring, lock the slide to the rear, lightly hold the trigger back, then release the slide.  You'll feel the abrupt change in trigger force when it slams forward.

You can either change you grip/finger position (not likely due to body mechanics), of pickup an aftermarket trigger.  Sanding my factory trigger to be more flush didn't really help in my case. 




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Re: Cause of trigger bite?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2018, 11:44:01 PM »
Hey dpsk I have to disagree with the others on removing material from the bottom wont fix the pinch because i did that very thing and never had a pinch since. Ive never had this issue with a handgun before. A little sanding isnt enough i removed mine from the frame and took a dremel and removed right at 1/8" off the bottom and just chamfer the bottom edges just gave them a slight roll in the sides and from after removing the bottom material. It isnt going to affect the safety tab either it still works as its supposed to. I'm confident if youll remove it and take about an 1/8" off youll be perfectly happy.