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Offline Grizzlie

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Re: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2018, 05:17:29 PM »
Yup. My bad.

Glanced through a paper catalogue Vectan offers, nothing about OAL in there. Unless their 'laboratory testing' was done under very specific conditions and CIP's max 29.69mm....
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Re: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2018, 05:22:42 PM »
It's all good.   ;)
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Re: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2019, 04:44:50 PM »
Data
Caliber:  38 Special
Bullets:  Berry Mfg 148gr DEWC
Brass:  Winchester
Powder:  Vectan Ba9  (5.4gr to 6.8gr)
Max Velocity:  1049fps  (* never achieved)
Primer:  Federal #100
OAL: Set flush per WC standards
Pistol:  Ruger GP100 6"
Qty:  6 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  60F and overcast/rainy, midday light
Chrono:  ProChrono


Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.2             767              26*
4.3             776              11
5.4             923              12
5.5             948              13
5.6             954              12


Notes
• 4.x loads had very poor case fill probably causing the large SD
• Some unburned powder left in the 4.x loads; Clean at 5.x
• This particular test suggested Ba9-1/2 or Ba10 would be a better powder for this use
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 10:00:27 PM by Wobbly »
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Re: Load Testing: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2020, 04:14:22 PM »
Equipment
Caliber:  38 Special
Bullets:  Speer 135gr FMJ
Brass:  Winchester
Powder:  Vectan Ba9
Max Velocity:  1150fps  (* never achieved)
Primer:  Win WSP
OAL: Set to cannelure
Pistol:  Ruger GP100 6"
Qty:  6 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  68F and overcast/rainy, midday light
Chrono:  ProChrono DLX


Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.7             452             
5.2             651             
5.6             719             
6.5             910            23


Notes
• 4.x loads had very poor case fill
• Always 4 or 5 granules of un-burned powder left in barrel, other than that very clean
• Accuracy was good above 700 fps
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Re: Load Testing: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2020, 07:03:43 PM »
I have some Vectan data obviously published prior to the legal team getting involved. The charge weights are significantly higher, and several of their flake powders, usually associated with shot shell loads, are listed for pistol calibers.

I'd be happy to share, via email, with anyone that wants it.

PM me an email addy and I'll send it to you.

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I had the right to remain silent...

but not the ability.

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Re: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2020, 07:14:13 PM »
Data
Caliber:  38 Special
Bullets:  Berry Mfg 148gr DEWC
Brass:  Winchester
Powder:  Vectan Ba9  (5.4gr to 6.8gr)
Max Velocity:  1049fps  (* never achieved)
Primer:  Federal #100
OAL: Set flush per WC standards
Pistol:  Ruger GP100 6"
Qty:  6 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  60F and overcast/rainy, midday light
Chrono:  ProChrono


Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.2             767              26*
4.3             776              11
5.4             923              12
5.5             948              13
5.6             954              12


NOTES
? 4.x loads had very poor case fill probably causing the large SD
? Some unburned powder left in the 4.x loads; Clean at 5.x
? This particular test suggested Ba9-1/2 or Ba10 would be a better powder for this use

Wobbly,
It seems that Vectan data says:  Vectan Ba9  (5.4gr to 6.8gr) Max Velocity:  1049fps

but your data says: 4.2gr to 5.6gr
Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.2             767              26*
4.3             776              11
5.4             923              12
5.5             948              13
5.6             954              12
Is there a reason you didn't go 5.4 to 6.8?

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Re: Load Testing: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2020, 02:33:30 AM »
I am ammazed that you guys can get this powder so cheap, I have to pay 50 euro's for half a KG, thats $60 and the powder is made in Europe(France) I live in europe(Netherlands).

Never used a chrono but this is wat I use.

ruger GP100 6'', 158Grain swc copper plated
38SP 5.1Grain BA9

CZ85 combat 124 grain rn copper plated
9mm 4.3 Grain BA9
total length 29mm


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Re: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2020, 03:47:52 PM »
It seems that Vectan data says:  Vectan Ba9  (5.4gr to 6.8gr) Max Velocity:  1049fps

but your data says: 4.2gr to 5.6gr
Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.2             767              26*
4.3             776              11
5.4             923              12
5.5             948              13
5.6             954              12

Is there a reason you didn't go 5.4 to 6.8?

Yes, not enough coffee. I'll get to it eventually.

EDIT
Those are 38Spcl with 148gr WadCutters. Optimal speed is 750fps.
Testing stopped because I found what I was looking for.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2020, 10:36:26 PM by Wobbly »
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Re: Load Testing: Nobel Sport Vectan Ba9 powder
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2020, 08:38:25 PM »
I have used Vectan for several years and pushing 1,000s of rounds down range.

Name   CZ SP-01 125gr The Blue Bullet 4.8gr Ba-9         
Notes   4.6" Barrel         
Number of Shots   35         
Extreme Spread   70         
Average   1071         
Standard Deviation   14         
Power Factor Average   133         
Power Factor Low   129         
Power Factor High   138