Trading for a P-07 UG threaded

[fflmike]

I already have a black P-07 with the Pro kit that I love, but I am contemplating a trade for a stock P-07 Urban Gray with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights.  Looking at maybe getting the slide milled, but have no idea what sight to use.  Never used a red dot on a pistol, but my eyes are getting old.  Will it help or is that for young eyes?  Maybe put a compensator on it.  I only have suppressors for rimfire.  Thoughts?

[fflmike]

My other option is to trade for a Gen 4 Glock 17.  Both guns are like new with the same person.  Really was looking to get a P-09 next, darn it, lol.

[s0nspark]

My other option is to trade for a Gen 4 Glock 17.  Both guns are like new with the same person.  Really was looking to get a P-09 next, darn it, lol.

LOL I keep saying my next is a P-09 and I keep buying P-07s.

To answer your red dot question - those of us with older eyes stand to benefit the most from a red dot. I saw tremendous gains in my shooting once I adjusted to shooting with the dot. Now I can?t imagine shooting without one by choice.

As for milling, I?ve had all mine done by Mark Housel of L&M Precision Gunworks but Primary Machine does excellent work as well and  their Stealth Comp is just awesome.  I?m partial to the Trijicon RM07 but the Vortex and Delta Point Pro optics are also great choices.

[fflmike]

So much info to digest, LOL.  The biggest issue I guess, is I like to tinker and modify more than I like to shoot.  I also play golf 5 days a week.  I can work on guns at night, LOL.

[fflmike]

Okay, looking at the Vortex Viper and the Vortex Venom.  The Viper is 6moa and the Venom is 3moa it think.  I guess for old eyes and I am not going to shoot at long distances, the 6moa would be better.  Do they use the same slide cut?  Would the tall sites be high enough to co-witness and is that even important?

Looks like you can get the Venom in 6moa also and I really like the looks of it better, not that that is all that important.

[fflmike]

Okay, looking at the Vortex Viper and the Vortex Venom.  The Viper is 6moa and the Venom is 3moa it think.  I guess for old eyes and I am not going to shoot at long distances, the 6moa would be better.  Do they use the same slide cut?  Would the tall sites be high enough to co-witness and is that even important?

Looks like you can get the Venom in 6moa also and I really like the looks of it better, not that that is all that important.

Maybe I'll trade for it and bide my time. Might be able to trade it for a P-09. Who knows? LOL

[s0nspark]

Okay, looking at the Vortex Viper and the Vortex Venom.  The Viper is 6moa and the Venom is 3moa it think.  I guess for old eyes and I am not going to shoot at long distances, the 6moa would be better.  Do they use the same slide cut?  Would the tall sites be high enough to co-witness and is that even important?

Looks like you can get the Venom in 6moa also and I really like the looks of it better, not that that is all that important.

Of the two I would go with the Venom... it offers top-loading of the battery and the adjustment controls are not blocked by the rear sight ;-)

Also, if it were me I would go for the 6 MOA - I find it much quicker to pick up than smaller dots.

[fflmike]

Okay, looking at the Vortex Viper and the Vortex Venom.  The Viper is 6moa and the Venom is 3moa it think.  I guess for old eyes and I am not going to shoot at long distances, the 6moa would be better.  Do they use the same slide cut?  Would the tall sites be high enough to co-witness and is that even important?

Looks like you can get the Venom in 6moa also and I really like the looks of it better, not that that is all that important.

Of the two I would go with the Venom... it offers top-loading of the battery and the adjustment controls are not blocked by the rear sight ;-)

Also, if it were me I would go for the 6 MOA - I find it much quicker to pick up than smaller dots.

Thank you for the input. I'll see where this takes me.

[Vinny]

Okay, looking at the Vortex Viper and the Vortex Venom.  The Viper is 6moa and the Venom is 3moa it think.  I guess for old eyes and I am not going to shoot at long distances, the 6moa would be better.  Do they use the same slide cut?  Would the tall sites be high enough to co-witness and is that even important?

Looks like you can get the Venom in 6moa also and I really like the looks of it better, not that that is all that important.

Of the two I would go with the Venom... it offers top-loading of the battery and the adjustment controls are not blocked by the rear sight ;-)

Also, if it were me I would go for the 6 MOA - I find it much quicker to pick up than smaller dots.

+1   I have two SR P-07's, one with a milled DPP and the other with Vortex Venom.  The DPP is an excellent rugged RDS but it's very tall and took a very tall .440 front sight to get BUIS co-witness.  The Venom sits lower, has markings at rear of the optic body for co-witness and it lines up almost perfectly with the stock tritium suppressor sight. Primary has a 'package deal' for milling and 6moa Venom like $360 + 20 to Cerakote.  I liked this combo so much, I just had them do a SR P-09 which should be in my hands tomorrow (to replace my G17 Gen 4 MOS).
Here's an image of the Venom combo on my P-07:

Image below is my SR P-07 UG with the 2.5 moa DPP mounted (I actually prefer the DPP 7.5 moa triangle for SD). This is also a great set-up with the optional rear iron and very tall .440 FO front sight from Dawson. If $ is a concern, this cost almost 2X the Venom set-up above.

[fflmike]

Okay, I made the trade.  I'll probably take my time on this one.  First I'll put in the Pro package and see from there.  I do like the night sights and the plus 2 extensions.  Here it is and my black one.

[Vinny]

Good Move.   
I too find the SR sights to be much better and easier to pick up than the standard P-07 Duty sights. I was really happy to discover the SR front sight worked with the Venom to co-witness.

Do you like your Talon grips?  I put them on every polymer gun I have. I think Black Talon grip on UG gun looks good with the black slide.

I should receive my P-09 back from Primary tomorrow. I'll post an image of my P-07 & P-09 together. Dynamic Duo.  -Vinny

[fflmike]

I just got through taking it all apart and cleaning and polishing all the parts.  The previous owner aparently had never cleaned the gun and it was pretty dirty and loaded with grease.  Got it all cleaned up and polished all the stuff that is gonna stay in it and bent the spring.  I had an extra reduced power blocker spring and a 16lb hammer spring.  I'll order the Pro kit soon, but for now, it feels quite a bit better than my black one did.  Probably because it had been shot around 500 or 600 rounds.  With just that, the double action pull is just above 8 lbs and the single action pull is right above 4 lbs. 

[fflmike]

Do you like your Talon grips?  I put them on every polymer gun I have. I think Black Talon grip on UG gun looks good with the black slide.

I also have Talon grips on all of my polymer guns. I will put black Talon grips on this one. I like that look, black on gray.

[fflmike]

Primary has a 'package deal' for milling and 6moa Venom like $360 + 20 to Cerakote. 

That sounds like a deal I might just have to take them up on.

[Vinny]

Primary has a 'package deal' for milling and 6moa Venom like $360 + 20 to Cerakote. 

That sounds like a deal I might just have to take them up on.

Just got the P-09 slide back from Primary done in 'stainless' Cerakote. The P-07 is titanium Cerakote. However, I like the look of the black slide on the UG. Both have the Venom co-witness BUIS with the stock SR front sight.  Here's the image I promised of the Dynamic Duo: