How to reliably fire small RIFLE primers w/o using a very heavy hammer spring?

[bobclevenger]

Pistol is a Tanfoglio Compact.

Photo just to get attention.

Yeah, I use small RIFLE primers in my 9x23 Winchester loads to stand up to the 55,000 psi max pressure.
I can fire them off using a strong hammer spring, but I don't like that "solution."
I see claims that a heavier firing pin will work better. I also see claims that a lighter firing pin will work better. I also see claims that .020" longer firing pins work better.
What's the scoop on this situation, preferably from someone who has done it? Re-inventing the wheel is not really all that attractive to me. 

[bobclevenger]

Just out of curiosity, why was this moved to "general" when it only applies to Tanfoglio clones of the CZ?

[Wobbly]

Try some Federal small rifle primers as a first step.

[ReloaderFred]

I don't know who moved it, but generally questions regarding ammunition are moved here.

As to your original question, I shoot 9x23 Winchester in a Witness, and a Ruger Blackhawk revolver that I had a cylinder rechambered for the 9x23.  I use standard factory springs in both of those handguns and I also load small rifle primers.  I've yet to have one not go off.  If you're having misfire problems, make sure your primers are seated all the way to the bottom of the primer pocket.  I seat mine .004" below flush with the bottom of the case, and they go off every time.  I've used Winchester, S&B, MagTech and Federal primers in the 9x23.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[bobclevenger]

I don't know who moved it, but generally questions regarding ammunition are moved here.

As to your original question, I shoot 9x23 Winchester in a Witness, and a Ruger Blackhawk revolver that I had a cylinder rechambered for the 9x23.  I use standard factory springs in both of those handguns and I also load small rifle primers.  I've yet to have one not go off.  If you're having misfire problems, make sure your primers are seated all the way to the bottom of the primer pocket.  I seat mine .004" below flush with the bottom of the case, and they go off every time.  I've used Winchester, S&B, MagTech and Federal primers in the 9x23.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Yes, this is a help. I don't see how the Ruger could ever be a problem as hard as it hits the primer! With the Witness, I have had a few failures to fire with SR primers. Of course I am trying to use the lightest hammer spring that can do the job. Just trying to find out what other parts (such as firing pins) will make that happen more easily.
Thanks for the advice.

[Wobbly]

With the Witness, I have had a few failures to fire with SR primers. Of course I am trying to use the lightest hammer spring that can do the job.

Are you sure about the seating of the primers ? Inconsistent results within the same batch could also be poorly seated primers.

So the question is, did the primers ignite when you pulled the hammer back and fired the round a second time ?

[bobclevenger]

Are you sure about the seating of the primers ? Inconsistent results within the same batch could also be poorly seated primers.

It has been a good while since that happened. It is always possible, but the problem ceased when I installed a stronger hammer spring.

So the question is, did the primers ignite when you pulled the hammer back and fired the round a second time ?

After this long I don't really remember. I do recall that it bothered me enough to install a heavier hammer spring, and I would like to get away from that.



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[jwc007]

Just out of curiosity, why was this moved to "general" when it only applies to Tanfoglio clones of the CZ?

This thread was NOT moved to the General Discussion section and was moved to the Ammunition and Reloading section.
While you are using a Tanfoglio Cz Clone, this applies mostly to Reloading Practices.
You will get far more attention and good advice on your issue here than on the Cz Clone Section.

I don't know who moved it, but generally questions regarding ammunition are moved here.

I did and for that reason and the one I've previously stated.

[bobclevenger]

Thank you for moving it. I suppose I just read the GENERAL and stopped reading. My error.