$149.99 of pure fun.

[KingPolymer-III]

I know you guys will think that I am crazy, and alot of folks have bad mouthed High Point and alot have also been coming around the block and realizing the critics have never even owned or shot one, I know their carbines are exceptional, so several weeks ago I decided to find out for myself, since I already had the carbines and read all the rave reviews about the pistols and already knew the carbines are exceptional, I decided to test the theory after I read the testimonials.
I purchased the 380 Compensator and put 200 rounds through it, DEAD ON. No jams, nominal recoil. How is that for fun. I know its a "stamped" gun and thats why its cheaper, but heck, LIFETIME WARRANTY is all that counts and the fun is there also, so how can you miss. (pun intended).
Its not a function of budget, I own dozens of guns and plenty of $500 Glocks, CZs, and 1911s, its a simple matter of getting a nice and fun gun.

Two words of advise.

1. NO HOLLOWPOINTS or Jacketed hollowpoints, it will jam., FMJS only!!!, when I say above no jams,  I am talking about FMJs.
2. DONT DRINK THE KOOLAID UNLESS IT TASTES GOOD. lol., DON'T FOLLOW THE BANDWAGON UNLESS ITS A HIGH SPEED BULLET TRAIN. lol

[Walt-Sherrill]

One of the gun dealers I do business with -- a guy with a great reputation for honestly who is also a good businessman -- claims that Hi-Points are the only cheap guns he sells because they are the only ones that don't come back.

Would I have one?  Probably not.  But I won't make fun of those who buy them because they want a new gun with warranty that will do what a handgun should, when it should.

Th Hi-Point carbine, on the other hand, has an excellent reputation for both accuracy and durability.  Its popular with cops who's department won't buy them carbine for their tours of duty.  They buy them themselves and stick them in the trunk.

[KingPolymer-III]

Walt:
   I know exactly what you are saying.  Please tell me what you think about this:

link:www.gunweek.com/2005/feature0201.html

[Walt-Sherrill]

As I said, good gun.  Jack Lewis tested a couple in Gun World mag a year or two ago, with good results.  Others, including the American Rifleman have tested them and given them good marks.

Pesonally, I prefer the Kel-Tec Sub 2000.  I had one got in trade and later traded it away.  I later picked up a Glock 34.  I should have kept tne Sub 2000 (as the one I had used Glock mags.)

[Dos]

My Local Dealer sells HiPoints like Hotcakes.  Seems like they are his "House Guns".  Great Warranty and I haven't seen one come back yet.  (I visit his gun shop just about daily)   And yes, the local PD comes in to get the carbines.  Sounds like a fun gun...but I have never been able to get used to the pistol's different size and feel.   The carbines are ugly as Sin..but they perform flawlessly.

[Walt-Sherrill]

The Hi-Points are all blow-back design.  For a Carbine that's not awkward, but for a pistol.

That' why the slide is so massive -- it uses weight rather than more sophisticated system -- to slow the slide.  They make a .45, too, so if this looks like a brick on a stick, the .45 looks like a cinder block on a stick.  

But they generally work well, and when they don't Hi-Point customer service makes it right.

They can even be made to shoot hollow points, without problems.

[KingPolymer-III]

"I prefer the Kel-Tec Sub 2000."
  I agree as well, I have several of these, both for Beretta 92 and Glock 17 mags.  I love the way it folds up.
,but I also love the HP carbines as well,  You can never have too many guns.  LOL.
  This thread has made me think that price is not always a function of quality.  Here is a good example of both classic and modern firearms, both long guns and pistols, where at $200 or under, you get MORE than you pay for.

1. CZ52
2. Russian, Bulgarian , and Romanian Makarovs.
3. SKS's and Mosin Nagants.
4. Mausers and Enfields.
5. The Bersa Thunder 380
6. The Ruger 10/22
7. The Marlin 60
8. High Point Carbines and pistols.
9. etc,etc,etc.

[dleong]

There is a certain... industrial aesthetic in the design of the Hi Point pistol that appeals to me. It looks like something one would find in the "Cordless Power Tools" section of the Black & Decker catalog.

I have been to gunshows and seen tables with Hi-Points for sale, and shall confess to having been tempted, on more than one occasion, to acquire one. What is the protocol for buying one of these at a gunshow without having other attendees snicker at you as you leave with your new Hi-Point?


DL

[ahcwa]

9mm carbines are for those too enfeebled to use a real gun. For $150, why not have an sks full of sp's in the trunk? 4x as powerful as a 9mm carbine.

[Walt-Sherrill]

Sometimes MORE POWERFUL isn't better.

For certain applications, like home defense, a 9mm carbine is arguably superior to a 9mm handgun, and far better than a full military long-gun or assault gun -- which would have too- great penetration (going through the neighbor's house and the house beyond that, etc. etc.)

[KingPolymer-III]

I agree 100%, they are very Spartan indeed and have a certain "power tool" testosterone aesthetic. They are very utilitarian , but as the Russians said,  " There is a certain quality in quantity".  I love BASICS., obviously they are not "SEXY" like a Sig or a CZ, but there is a certain appeal,but on a different level.
  I agree with Walt very strongly on the 9mm and/or .40SW carbine as a superior home defense weapon.  I live in a condo complex ground level in Florida and there are alot of adjacent units, if I used my SKS, the 7.62x39 Wolf would go through the perp and the wall and hit my next door neighbor Agnes and blow up her refrigirator,  if I use my Kel Tec SU16 or High Point 9mm with a Speer Gold Dot Hollowpoint, its more likely to be restricted to the target with less collateral damage. ,nothing against the SKS or AK deriviates, but you need to read the link above to grasp the full concept that cops are talking about.  I collect SKS, AKs, ARs, etc, but they are for more spacious environments, and less for contained smaller spaces.  , this is why SWAT teams carry H&K MP5s in 9mm in small hostage space sceanrious on a tactical level.  
  I am glad you guys are approaching this with an open mind on a civilized level,  I really appreciate it,  like I said, its not a function of budget,  I have $700 Bushmaster ARS and $500 Glocks, I love em all, but I also have no problem with a nice $200 or cheaper weapon like a Makarov or CZ52, or even a High Point, that functions well and has a basic utilitarian application and a spartan design element.
  In the words of Tony Soprano.  "Kapish?" LOL

Here are some "Brick on a Stick Powertool guns" LOL

[jwc007]

It is not so much what you have, as it is what you can do with it, when the Goblins come to call!

[KingPolymer-III]

"It is not so much what you have, as it is what you can do with it, when the Goblins come to call! "

Yes, a portion of the armory is for highly rependable self defense/concealed carry , a portion is for competition, and the remainder is strictly for collecting purposes and plinking fun.

[jwc007]

Actually, my point was whether you have a $900 Kimber or a $50 Raven (or equivalent), if it is reliable and functioning, and you can put the bullet where it will do the most damage, the outcome of any confrontation will be much the same, regardless of the pedigree of the weapon used!

What must be considered is that the Hi-Point is mostly reliable and accurate, as other more high priced armament.  Also what must be considered is that they may be "Limited Use" firearms, built to a price.  They serve for self-protection and some limited occasional recreational practice shooting.

The High Points are probably much sturdier than others in this class of firearm. I've heard very good things about them.  We have no local dealers that carry them, but I've occasionally seen one or two of them at Gun Shows.  I've not seen one at our Range, so I've never shot one.  I see no reason to be prejudicial of one, just because of it's price.  They sort of remind me of my AK, which is Utilitarian, and obviously built to a price.

[KingPolymer-III]

Thanks for your input guys, its appreciated.