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Offline viking499

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Rear sight question
« on: March 28, 2018, 05:20:17 PM »
If the rear sight is too short, will it make the bullet hit above the Target or below the target when shooting?

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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 09:32:31 PM »
Below, if it truly is too short.

If it was adjustable you'd raise the rear sight up to raise bullet POI.
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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 07:31:12 AM »
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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2018, 12:09:02 PM »
I must be missing something here?  If you placed a ruler across the top of the front and rear sights and set a POA at the end of the ruler ... and then "lowered" the rear sight it would raise the POA at the end of the ruler ... wouldn't it?

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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2018, 03:33:25 PM »


Here is a graphic that shows changing the front sight height and its change on the point of impact effect.  The front sight effect is opposite of the rear sight.

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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2018, 07:44:19 AM »
That's all true with a rifle. With a pistol you've also got to include recoil making the barrel climb. When shooting different pistol loads of different powers at the same target, you may find a vertical string of holes.

So if your issue is that your pistol is hitting 1/2 inch lower or higher than you aim, then try different ammo.
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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2018, 08:06:35 PM »
That's all true with a rifle. With a pistol you've also got to include recoil making the barrel climb. When shooting different pistol loads of different powers at the same target, you may find a vertical string of holes.

The laws of Physics apply equally to both pistols and rifles.

True, but the different geometry of pistols (L-shaped lever) causes muzzle flip which results in the "heavier bullets = higher POI" effect. Rifles don't have the lever effect, the recoil is straight back.
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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 08:59:49 AM »
I big reason for no slots in the bottom of the flash suppressors is to cut down on the muzzle blasts blowing so much crud when fired in the prone position.  You still want to try to keep the area in front of the foxhole as damp as you can (water, urine if you don't have water) to keep the dust down.  It can give away your firing position.

With handguns its pretty well known that heavier bullets print higher on the target (at normal handgun ranges) than lighter bullets.  The reason stated (and sounds/feels completely plausible) is that the lighter bullets kick less and are gone from the muzzle sooner than the heavy bullets.

With rifles its the opposite.  At normal rifle ranges the heavy bullets print lower on the target than the lighter bullets.  I have a Browning BAR GII that belonged to my father-in-law.  He told me it was the only rifle, out of hundreds he'd fired over the years, that would keep Remington 180 and 220 grain bullets in the same 5" circle at 300 yds.  He had no explanation for it, just that it would do it when all the other rifles he'd owned/fired could not.

I've always wondered about the addition/installation of compensators on .223's.
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Re: Rear sight question
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2018, 04:58:15 AM »
While the graphics showing the effect of rear sight height are correct, the way I think of it to remember how it works is to remember the sights are staying the same (lined up with point of aim), what's moving is the barrel under the sights.  Rear sight too low = rear of barrel too high.

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