How do you hide the Rami when you carry?

[frogwalking]

I think I have the failure to feed issue sorted out.  I have a super Garrett holster, (inside the waist band).  I am ready to put my air-weight S&W up and begin to carry my Rami.  My problem is that I am 70 years old and pretty thin.  I suspect My polo shirts are the problem as the gun is plainly visible either with appendix or hip location..  How do you who carry concealed, hide the fact that you are armed?

[cntrydawwwg]

Carry mine in a High Noon Double Jeopardy at about 4-4:30. https://www.highnoonholsters.com/leather-holsters/double-jeopardy
   Shorts and T-shirt in summer no issue.

[mecenas]

In my view it is still the best to try a variety of carrying positions in the IWB holster. However, to do that with only one holster you need a holster that you can position inside the waistband without any belt attachments and for that you need a sticky or Remora type holster.
I carry my Rami in a Remora that I can position anywhere I feel like depending on my outer clothing, from a true appendix to SOB and as deep inside my pants as that clothing allows, still being able to grab and draw the gun quickly leaving the holster behind
Remora's outer shell is made of a sticky material that does not slide keeping the holster positioned in one place and allowing a quick draw from it.

[congaree]

I use a Stealthgear Ventcore IWB and am on the smaller side (though not terribly 'skinny' anymore    I have not problems with 4 o'clock IWB carry as long as I don't tuck my shirt in (though I've never tried tucked to begin with).  Nobody can tell I'm carrying when I'm sporting the 10 rnd mag for sure.  But then again, I'm always carrying with the 10 and keep the 14 as a spare in my pocket.  I will say, though, I work from home and have no need to carry with a tucked shirt ever.  If I do go tucked, I have a Walther PPS I carry, but that is like 1 or 2 times a year.

[Pierce]

I carry just a bit (very little bit)  in front of 3 o'clock in a Vedder Light Tuck with the Claw. The holster clip attaches to my belt just in front of the belt loop. The "Claw" pulls the grip into my side and I can wear polo or tee shirts without printing.

[mecenas]

I sincerely do not believe that any Kydex holster carried at 3 to 5 o'clock position will not print under a T shirt or polo shirt. That maybe true if you stand still, but if you move, the thickness of the pistol (RAMI) with added Kydex will push the gun away sufficiently to show you are armed. There is just no way around it. The main reason is that the pistol is still pretty high above the waist and with or without the claw it will show  through clothing during normal daily activities, not to mention bending down, reaching up etc.

The only way to hide the gun in this position  is to lower it, that is push is a bit deeper into the waist - sufficiently to still be able get a full grip but low enough to hide the width and a part  of the grip. Kydex holsters do not allow to place it low enough.

Sorry, tried it  hundreds of times with a variety of compact and full size guns. Only a small pistol 380 or 32, thin enough will stay hidden, and lets not kid ourselves, RAMI, although a great gun is hardly a subcompact. The thinner and more flexible the holster, the better "hidden" aspect of carry. I rather have a very thin holster even if re-holstering would require pulling it from the waist. You may also want to try Urban Carry which keeps the gun below the waistline, but that requires a lot of practice.

[Pierce]

I sincerely do not believe that any Kydex holster carried at 3 to 5 o'clock position will not print under a T shirt or polo shirt.

You are wrong! I'm wearing a tee shirt right now and no way could you tell I have a Rami in a Kydex holster inside my waistband at 3:00.
Sure, if I to wear a skin tight tee shirt it would print, but do straight people ever wear shirts like that?

I can stoop, bend, reach, whatever and you'll not see my gun print.  Of course I have broad shoulders, much broader than my waist so I'm sure that helps my shirt drape loosely at my waist. If your shoulders are narrower than your waist, your mileage may (and will) vary. 

[mecenas]

You just described an almost perfectly built man - congratulations. Most of us are not built that way and although my shoulders maybe wider than my waist, nowhere near "hanging loose" are any of my t-shirts or golf shirts to be able to conceal a 3 o'clock positioned gun (RAMI at that) in a hard holster when I move about.

Therefore, on the average, a hard holster (Kydex) with a center clip (as made by the manufacturers referred to in some of these posts) will not hide the RAMI pistol worn at 3 o'clock position in an IWB holster.

One more option not discussed anywhere here is a clip holster with a trigger shield, or just a trigger shield holster. These are made out of kydex and cover just the trigger guard. There is a string attached to this shield and the whole combo is carried Mexican style - that is behind the waist with the string wrapped around the belt. When drawing in an upswing, the string removes the shield getting the gun ready to be fired. The only problem is to find one for RAMI*. They are plentiful for Glocks.
This method of carry allows to position a "naked" gun anywhere under the waist band and there is no holster to make the combo thicker.

[frogwalking]

Thanks Mecenas.  My lined Kydex holster has the adjustable clip on the thinner part of the holster at the trigger guard.  I am, shall we say, mature.  I have a difficult time buttoning a sport shirt, but that same issue pretty much prevents jerking the trigger.  Cabela's has some very busy print shirts that only have a couple of buttons at the neck and are made to be left untucked that look good.  They appear to ne non form fitting and may work.  I may have to stick with a smaller gun. 

[mecenas]

Frogwalking: we are about the same age, and I also have a Garrett lined kydex holster with an added claw (I added it myself) specifically made for Rami, and, frankly, I still have a problem to completely hide my pistol under a loosely draped, untucked shirt.

Try one of the sticky holster, and you will hide Rami successfully - no need to resort to a smaller gun.

[PappaWheelie]

I am ready to put my air-weight S&W up and begin to carry my Rami.  My problem is that I am 70 years old and pretty thin.  I suspect My polo shirts are the problem as the gun is plainly visible either with appendix or hip location..  How do you who carry concealed, hide the fact that you are armed?

I'm a bit older than you, frogwalking, and believe I've hit upon the ultimate carry solution. The only no print/no tent carry locations are where your body is flat, i.e., nowhere near the high curvature of your hips: either 12:00 or 6:00 but 6:00 can be snatched where 12:00 can't.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=95318.msg732479#msg732479
Also read the asterisked predecessor links, which include a pic of the Invisible 15 Round RAMI in action. Polo shirts are NO problem (I carry tucked shirt almost all the time), in that the extended grip and commander hammer are so low and behind the belt that nothing shows unless I bend waaay over backwards (and even then it takes a sharp eye!).

I love my RAMI BD!

[frogwalking]

Thanks Pappawheelie.  I have used those in my pocket, where they are fine with a very small gun.  I have a number of plastic holsters also, and just feel much more secure with a hard type holster.  My no, 1 need is to avoid an accident by keeping the gun secure, everything else is no. 2.

[MattyD380]

I find appendix position works best for concealing just about any gun. RAMI included.

I use a very basic clip holster that rides low, and I place it at about 11:45 (I'm right handed). The grip sits parallel with the belt, and extends across the centerline... which keeps it from sticking out. I also tend to think that big, thick belts tend to increase printing... especially with a thick gun like a RAMI. So, I mainly use a basic belt from Macy's... or no belt at all (which is actually the most comfortable). It works for me.

I tend to think the more specialized AIWB holsters add too much bulk to the setup, and ride too high for adequate concealment/comfort.

I also recently got a TT Gunleather XC Slim for the RAMI, which I use for 4:00 / 5:00 carry. It works well, and conceals the gun comfortably and adequately. My big issue with behind-the-hip carry is driving--it's rare a gun sits in just the right position that doesn't poke or dig into your backside while you're sitting. But I've found the TT is better than most. I still have to work on fine-tuning the position...

[Flankenstein]

You just described an almost perfectly built man - congratulations. Most of us are not built that way and although my shoulders maybe wider than my waist, nowhere near "hanging loose" are any of my t-shirts or golf shirts to be able to conceal a 3 o'clock positioned gun (RAMI at that) in a hard holster when I move about.

Therefore, on the average, a hard holster (Kydex) with a center clip (as made by the manufacturers referred to in some of these posts) will not hide the RAMI pistol worn at 3 o'clock position in an IWB holster.

One more option not discussed anywhere here is a clip holster with a trigger shield, or just a trigger shield holster. These are made out of kydex and cover just the trigger guard. There is a string attached to this shield and the whole combo is carried Mexican style - that is behind the waist with the string wrapped around the belt. When drawing in an upswing, the string removes the shield getting the gun ready to be fired. The only problem is to find one for RAMI*. They are plentiful for Glocks.
This method of carry allows to position a "naked" gun anywhere under the waist band and there is no holster to make the combo thicker.

Lol, how can you speak for so many people? Many can conceal larger firearms with aforementioned attire just fine.

[ccssid]

I had aiwb made up with a claw for my rami bd......Perfect fit, comfortable,  and  conceals well;

http://www.invisiholsters.com/ihcart/



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