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Offline Moken

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Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« on: June 13, 2018, 10:40:16 AM »
Just read they have filed for chapter 11. I've been running their pills for years. Great product and great service. Lots of competition in that field however. Hope they can make it back.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 10:51:22 AM »
I got their email last night telling the they filed.  But said it would be business as usual for now.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 11:04:14 AM »
Is that why they stopped taking brass trade in and have most of their re-manufactured out of stock?

I liked their buy back program combined with fair prices.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 06:50:47 AM »
They made stepped brass cases which led to a lot of kabooms for people.

I've never had good experiences with them and always toss out any headstamps that show their brand of brass.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 09:39:03 AM »
ahhh, I didn't know about their stepped cases, they should have known better. I heard their ammo was all over the place in terms of velocity (even the stuff they sold at competitions didn't make chrono). I listened to a recent podcast that had the opinion/possibility of them keeping the plated bullets business up and running, and dropping the completed ammo part. Still hesitant to order from them considering the state. I used them most recently for 110gn M1 Carbine bullets and it took a couple weeks and a phone call to get the order processed/shipped. Anybody know any decent replacements for those carbine bullets (wouldn't be opposed to a FMJ) let me know please.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2018, 10:07:00 AM »
This has to be some company failure at the higher lever. They weren’t managing something right.

Freedom is too large to go under unless something was way off with the money. They have too much support in the shooting community.

Yes their brass sucks for Reloading but most people nowadays just buy their stuff loaded.


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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2018, 10:27:32 AM »
ahhh, I didn't know about their stepped cases, they should have known better. I heard their ammo was all over the place in terms of velocity (even the stuff they sold at competitions didn't make chrono). I listened to a recent podcast that had the opinion/possibility of them keeping the plated bullets business up and running, and dropping the completed ammo part. Still hesitant to order from them considering the state. I used them most recently for 110gn M1 Carbine bullets and it took a couple weeks and a phone call to get the order processed/shipped. Anybody know any decent replacements for those carbine bullets (wouldn't be opposed to a FMJ) let me know please.
I bought Berry's, on the recommendation of Reloader Fred. He  loads more volume, and different calibers, than anyone I can think of. If they work for him, I'm sure they'll suit me.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2018, 03:57:03 PM »
This actually isn't the first time "they" have declared bankruptcy.

Earlier, they were known as something else.  I don't recall the name right off.  West coast bullets, west coast ammo, something like that. ????????

And I was one of the earliest known victims of the stepped cases, to which I was pretty much branded a hater, although isn't exactly the case.  I still purchased from xtreme and loaded my own ammo with their pills and even have a bulk pack of 165 gr 9mm bullets (not ammo) incoming as I type this, but I have always been forthcoming that their new 9mm "stepped case" ammo is unsafe and dangerous in my opinion.  For that, I make no apology.  They had (have) a choice to use a different brass case, yet they chose to continue using it despite knowing that it was "fatally flawed".  And in the several years they've been doing business as freedom munitions, have even changed their head stamp in a feeble attempt to deceive some of their customers that look for a particular headstamp (FM, AMMOLOAD, et.al)

Their reloaded ammo brass is other brand pickups.  They don't use their own brass to reload.  That should speak volumes to anyone whether you're a reloader or not.

In full disclosure, I was the OP of the link below.  It has a lot of information throughout the entire thread, not just the first post or two.

http://mossbergowners.com/forum/index.php?threads/freedom-munitions-9mm-ammunition-warning.12203/
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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 06:41:22 AM »
I used them most recently for 110gn M1 Carbine bullets and it took a couple weeks and a phone call to get the order processed/shipped. Anybody know any decent replacements for those carbine bullets (wouldn't be opposed to a FMJ) let me know please.

I don't load 30 Carbine.  If I were going to, and I planned on shooting a lot of it, the cost difference of plated vs FMJ would cause me to at least consider plated -- 7-8 cents per bullet for Berry's vs 18-20 cents per bullet for Hornady, Sierra, or Speer is significant if you're shooting a lot.  If I were shooting just occasionally, I'd probably just go with the jacketed.

Powder Valley has Hornady, Speer, and Berry's.  Midway has Hornady, Sierra, and Berry's.

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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2018, 07:26:14 AM »
Rocky Mountain Reloading has M1 Carbine 110gr FMJ on sale for $90/1K !!

https://www.rmrbullets.com/products/494887762911232-30-carbine-110-gr-full-metal-jacket-round-nose-2


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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2018, 07:37:09 AM »
Rocky Mountain Reloading has M1 Carbine 110gr FMJ on sale for $90/1K !!

https://www.rmrbullets.com/products/494887762911232-30-carbine-110-gr-full-metal-jacket-round-nose-2

Awesome.  That would be an automatic purchase for me if I were looking to buy 30 Carbine.   ;D
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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2018, 10:28:50 PM »
Rocky Mountain Reloading has M1 Carbine 110gr FMJ on sale for $90/1K !!

https://www.rmrbullets.com/products/494887762911232-30-carbine-110-gr-full-metal-jacket-round-nose-2

Awesome.  That would be an automatic purchase for me if I were looking to by 30 Carbine.   ;D
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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 11:52:39 PM »
Interesting. Freedom Munitions is a regular sponsor/supplier for Sootch00 on YouTube. 

I've picked up Xtreme brass at the range.

Are you saying I should not reload Xtreme-headstamped brass for some reason?
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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2018, 07:13:32 AM »
Are you saying I should not reload Xtreme-headstamped brass for some reason?


I think he's saying you should look inside your Xtreme brass before reloading it.
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Re: Xtreme Bullets/Freedom Munitions file for chapter 11
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2018, 08:49:00 AM »
Interesting. Freedom Munitions is a regular sponsor/supplier for Sootch00 on YouTube. 

I've picked up Xtreme brass at the range.

Are you saying I should not reload Xtreme-headstamped brass for some reason?

Yeah, freedom has supplies several youtubers with bullets.  MAC is another, but I don't care who they give their stuff away too.

Doesn't make them better bullets because they give their bullets to some internet celebrity.

A lot of car makers give cars to Hollywood movie studios either but that doesn't make them better cars.
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