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Offline Old-Duckman

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BD more desirable than B...?
« on: July 13, 2018, 06:13:01 PM »
OK, so of course I know the difference so I don't need schooled on that, in fact I have examples of both but...

I see no reason why the BD is more desirable than a B. From reading various posts here it seems that people put more value on the BD vs B. I know that they cost more initially but that shouldn't make them more desirable IMO. Are people so uncoordinated that they are in fear of an unintended discharge when walking the hammer down to either half cock or uncocked position ?

I mean the guns are double action, they do not need to be carried at 1/2 cock, (to be safe) or uncocked and thus need cocked prior to the first shot. They aren't 1911s, I just don't get it I suppose.

So, why the apparent desirability difference ? Am I the only one that finds this confusing ?

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2018, 06:23:55 PM »
The only thing about a decocker that might make it more useful is in a tactical type situation where the time and attention to safely lower the hammer if desired may not be available. I prefer a decocker, though I roll safety style too....kind of six of one, half dozen of another to me  ;)

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2018, 06:28:14 PM »
Yes.  Or perhaps they like what law enforcement or military uses.

Some have other bells and whistles contributing to price such as night sights or "combat"  or "tactical" roll marks or loaded chamber indicators...

There is likely someone else out there that shares your confusion.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2018, 06:32:44 PM by Tyerone »

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 07:35:35 PM »
OK, so of course I know the difference so I don't need schooled on that, in fact I have examples of both but..
So, why the apparent desirability difference ? Am I the only one that finds this confusing ?

It's a matter of preference. That's not so confusing or is it?
I own both and I like both and I carry my DA/SA pistols hammer fully down on a loaded chamber and plan on a DA first shot.No big deal I'm pretty good at it. I can decock a safety model by the 2 handed method or decock to the safety notch on a decocker model.either way no big deal.
They really are not 1911's and thank god for that.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 07:43:14 PM »
Lots of people don?t train to flip off a safety, especially if everything else they own is a striker.

So, it?s one less thing to get hung up on in a stressful situation.

Lots of people just don?t like manual safeties. 

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2018, 11:36:48 PM »
To date, I have never used the safety or the decocker on any of my CZ-75B's.  I would
be fine if they had neither.  Just personal preference.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2018, 09:59:05 PM »
All my CZs are decocker. It my preference for sure. I had safety versions at one point & may get one in the future. As I shoot idpa and some USPSA, I prefer the decocker variant.

I don?t think any version is necessarily better than the other.
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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2018, 09:49:45 AM »
I carry my BD RAMI IWB at 1230 and train live rounds weekly with it. As such, I felt it prudent to acquire the decocker model.

Everything else has a manual thumb safety. Even then, I carry Cajunized CZs hammer down.

Confusion exists when over thinking others? personal preferences based on their needs and requirements.


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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2018, 10:56:22 AM »
OK, so of course I know the difference so I don't need schooled on that, in fact I have examples of both but...

I see no reason why the BD is more desirable than a B. From reading various posts here it seems that people put more value on the BD vs B. I know that they cost more initially but that shouldn't make them more desirable IMO. Are people so uncoordinated that they are in fear of an unintended discharge when walking the hammer down to either half cock or uncocked position ?

I mean the guns are double action, they do not need to be carried at 1/2 cock, (to be safe) or uncocked and thus need cocked prior to the first shot. They aren't 1911s, I just don't get it I suppose.

So, why the apparent desirability difference ? Am I the only one that finds this confusing ?

I agree with your reasoning.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2018, 05:50:28 PM »
Lots of people don?t train to flip off a safety, especially if everything else they own is a striker.

So, it?s one less thing to get hung up on in a stressful situation.

Lots of people just don?t like manual safeties.

Just bc it's there doesn't meant you have to use it.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2018, 07:11:36 PM »
Lots of people don?t train to flip off a safety, especially if everything else they own is a striker.

So, it?s one less thing to get hung up on in a stressful situation.

Lots of people just don?t like manual safeties.

Just bc it's there doesn't meant you have to use it.

But when it accidentally gets flipped on and you?re not used to it, then it?s a problem.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2018, 05:01:45 AM »
Lots of people don?t train to flip off a safety, especially if everything else they own is a striker.

So, it?s one less thing to get hung up on in a stressful situation.

Lots of people just don?t like manual safeties.

Just bc it's there doesn't meant you have to use it.

But when it accidentally gets flipped on and you?re not used to it, then it?s a problem.

The safety on an unmodified CZ 75B cannot get flipped on unless the hammer is cocked. If you are carrying a gun you are not used to then you should not be carrying that gun until you are completely familiar with it's normal function.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2018, 08:16:11 AM »
Lots of people don?t train to flip off a safety, especially if everything else they own is a striker.

So, it?s one less thing to get hung up on in a stressful situation.

Lots of people just don?t like manual safeties.
You pretty much defined me.  None of the pistols I carry for self defense have safeties.  I?ve trained to draw and pull the trigger.  So it?s the same motions for a striker fired or CZ.  I?m not one that hates all safeties.  I like them on my hunting rifles because I hunt in rough terrain and there are plenty of times I have to engage the safety.  But I don?t want a safety on a self defense pistol.

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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2018, 08:22:08 AM »
Lots of people don?t train to flip off a safety, especially if everything else they own is a striker.

So, it?s one less thing to get hung up on in a stressful situation.

Lots of people just don?t like manual safeties.

Just bc it's there doesn't meant you have to use it.

But when it accidentally gets flipped on and you?re not used to it, then it?s a problem.

The safety on an unmodified CZ 75B cannot get flipped on unless the hammer is cocked. If you are carrying a gun you are not used to then you should not be carrying that gun until you are completely familiar with it's normal function.

I?m fine with a safety.  I have striker, decocker, and safety guns. 

As for training and knowing the workings of your carry gun, I agree

I?m just answering the question of why some prefer / desire the decocker model.


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Re: BD more desirable than B...?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2018, 04:52:18 PM »
all my CZs are chambered, decocked and at the ready. just in case