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Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« on: August 02, 2018, 12:52:45 PM »
First, let me start with my train of thought. I read some post about the ?Shadow 2? name being lame. I agree. I think no one would argue that the Shadow 2 is the most boringly unoriginal name they could?ve possibly used. The Shadow name was once so cool, I mean like ?wow, a shadow!? cool. The Shadow 2 name to me just says ?hey guy, here?s this new version you need to buy? and ?the changes are so minimal, we figured to just follow through on that philosophy with the name?

On that note, does anyone why a Czech company chose a Greek letter to represent the new lockwork? 

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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 01:38:08 PM »
Maybe they have no intention of going any further (different direction) in the development of lockwork for the CZ75/P07/P09 pistols.

The "Omega" is the last letter of the greek alphabet and the last thing CZ will do to improve the CZ 75 series of pistols.

Maybe.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2018, 02:34:24 PM »
Maybe they have no intention of going any further (different direction) in the development of lockwork for the CZ75/P07/P09 pistols.

The "Omega" is the last letter of the greek alphabet and the last thing CZ will do to improve the CZ 75 series of pistols.

Maybe.
That?s really good insight! I?m ashamed I didn?t think of that. Still, why not Czech flavoring in the name?


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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2018, 05:20:18 PM »
Maybe they have no intention of going any further (different direction) in the development of lockwork for the CZ75/P07/P09 pistols.

The "Omega" is the last letter of the greek alphabet and the last thing CZ will do to improve the CZ 75 series of pistols.

Maybe.
That?s really good insight! I?m ashamed I didn?t think of that. Still, why not Czech flavoring in the name?


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I don't think the Omega is an improvement on the 75 series although it is a much simplified system in comparison to the true 75 lockwork and to my knowledge the Omega was used on the P-07 Duty models first and they are no kin the the 75 series variants even though they called the 1st gen models the CZ75 P-07 DUTY,it ain't a CZ75 by any stretch. The P10C which is CZ's most recent endeavor is a total departure from their norm as well. Omega is just a neat sounding name used outside of it's true meaning but it does appear omega has multiple meanings not just the end.
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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2018, 09:48:34 PM »
Maybe they have no intention of going any further (different direction) in the development of lockwork for the CZ75/P07/P09 pistols.

The "Omega" is the last letter of the greek alphabet and the last thing CZ will do to improve the CZ 75 series of pistols.

Maybe.
That?s really good insight! I?m ashamed I didn?t think of that. Still, why not Czech flavoring in the name?


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I don't think the Omega is an improvement on the 75 series although it is a much simplified system in comparison to the true 75 lockwork and to my knowledge the Omega was used on the P-07 Duty models first and they are no kin the the 75 series variants even though they called the 1st gen models the CZ75 P-07 DUTY,it ain't a CZ75 by any stretch. The P10C which is CZ's most recent endeavor is a total departure from their norm as well. Omega is just a neat sounding name used outside of it's true meaning but it does appear omega has multiple meanings not just the end.
I?ve yet to actually try the Omega, so I can?t say anything about it compared to the classic 75. I might purchase a P01 Omega and see what it?s all about some time though.


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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 04:45:37 AM »
Maybe they have no intention of going any further (different direction) in the development of lockwork for the CZ75/P07/P09 pistols.

The "Omega" is the last letter of the greek alphabet and the last thing CZ will do to improve the CZ 75 series of pistols.

Maybe.
That?s really good insight! I?m ashamed I didn?t think of that. Still, why not Czech flavoring in the name?


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I don't think the Omega is an improvement on the 75 series although it is a much simplified system in comparison to the true 75 lockwork and to my knowledge the Omega was used on the P-07 Duty models first and they are no kin the the 75 series variants even though they called the 1st gen models the CZ75 P-07 DUTY,it ain't a CZ75 by any stretch. The P10C which is CZ's most recent endeavor is a total departure from their norm as well. Omega is just a neat sounding name used outside of it's true meaning but it does appear omega has multiple meanings not just the end.
I?ve yet to actually try the Omega, so I can?t say anything about it compared to the classic 75. I might purchase a P01 Omega and see what it?s all about some time though.


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My gen 2 P-07 with a CGW spring kit and hammer came out real nice. I think the original lockwork cleans upper smoother and crisper but I have no glaring complaints on the Omega system. The simplicity of the Omega makes an easier platform for the diy guy.

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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 05:03:01 AM »
Might be easier for the factory to assemble, too.

While the first Omegas were P07s and P09s they've done full sized CZ75's and now P01s.  What is next?

You can get good/bad/better/worse in factory guns.  My first, a P07 DUTY in .40 S&W had a 3&1/4 lb. SA trigger pull right out of the box.  A better trigger (lighter and crisper) than any steel framed CZ75 Compact I've bought so far.  Better than the well used and certainly worn in Pre B CZ85 I bought a couple/three years ago.  I have a couple of the Compacts to the point now that their triggers are lighter/crisper than the P07, but it took work/parts to beat the factory P07 trigger.  The P09 9MM was a little "worse" at 3&1/2 lbs. SA and not as crisp.

As much as I like my P07 and P09 I've not bought more of them over the years.  They were the first CZ's I bought.  I bought/kept one more, a P09 in .40 S&W and then it's been a steel/aluminum frame buy ever since.  A couple full sized and a bucket of Compacts of various models.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2018, 01:59:57 PM »
Might be easier for the factory to assemble, too.

While the first Omegas were P07s and P09s they've done full sized CZ75's and now P01s.  What is next?

You can get good/bad/better/worse in factory guns.  My first, a P07 DUTY in .40 S&W had a 3&1/4 lb. SA trigger pull right out of the box.  A better trigger (lighter and crisper) than any steel framed CZ75 Compact I've bought so far.  Better than the well used and certainly worn in Pre B CZ85 I bought a couple/three years ago.  I have a couple of the Compacts to the point now that their triggers are lighter/crisper than the P07, but it took work/parts to beat the factory P07 trigger.  The P09 9MM was a little "worse" at 3&1/2 lbs. SA and not as crisp.

As much as I like my P07 and P09 I've not bought more of them over the years.  They were the first CZ's I bought.  I bought/kept one more, a P09 in .40 S&W and then it's been a steel/aluminum frame buy ever since.  A couple full sized and a bucket of Compacts of various models.
This makes me want to try Omega even more. I do always hear good things about the P07 and P09 but never tried either. I?d still lean more towards the P01 Omega myself


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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2018, 02:35:00 PM »
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On that note, does anyone why a Czech company chose a Greek letter to represent the new lockwork?
Just because new simplyfied trigger bar is curved in such shape like that greek letter   ;D

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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2018, 08:52:04 PM »
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Might be easier for the factory to assemble, too.

In addition to simpler (fewer) parts, CZ no longer needs to have different production runs for decocker or safety versionss of their newer guns of a given model --  and THAT is certainly a SIMPLER production method.   (The compact decocker=equipped CZ-75 models have different frames than the safety-equipped models; the Omega system will let them move to a single frame for both.   We've already seen that with the P=07 and P-09.)   I would expect the non-Omega models across the board to eventually be phased out. )

A design feature that let the user change from safety to decocker (or vice versa) is something I don't think any other gun maker offers.   (I can only think of a couple of hammer-fired models that would let you  decocks, apply the safety, or carry cocked & locked.  The one's I've see or tried weren't all that user friendly, and I'd never try carrying one of THOSE models cocked & locked.   S&W offered both safety and decocker  with a single slide-mounted lever with some of their metal-framed semi-autos, but you couldn't safely carry those models cocked & locked.)

The Omega System is an elegantly simple design and a marketing feature that no other gun maker has attempted or accomplished.


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Re: Any guesses as to where the Omega designation came from?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2018, 07:05:42 AM »
Maybe they have no intention of going any further (different direction) in the development of lockwork for the CZ75/P07/P09 pistols.

The "Omega" is the last letter of the greek alphabet and the last thing CZ will do to improve the CZ 75 series of pistols.

Maybe.


Good a guess as any.