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Offline Busy

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P-07 decocker problem?
« on: September 03, 2018, 09:56:55 PM »
Recently purchased a brand new P-07 from a retailer . No rounds through it yet. In the process of reading the manual and learning basic function I noticed that the decocker does not seem to leave the hammer in the "half cocked" position. After using the decocker, you can pull the hammer back just a tiny bit and hear it click into the half cocked position. I mean just a hair. Is this normal?

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2018, 11:17:28 PM »
hammer moves a lot further to  actual halfcock from fully down.

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2018, 11:43:49 PM »
Thanks for the reply! Maybe I'm not explaining it right. So lets say the hammer is fully cocked. Operate the decocker. Now, should the sear be engaged on the "half cock" (not actually half way) notch in hammer at this point? It is not. From this point the sear will not engage the hammer (half cock) until you pull back just a tiny hair. You will hear sear click as it engages the hammer.

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 11:50:32 PM »
O.k. so the manual says , "pressing down the decocking control lever actuates the lowering of the hammer from the cocked position to the hammer safety notch position". When I press my decocker, I have to pull back on the hammer just a hair to get the sear to click onto the hammer safety notch position.

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2018, 08:34:10 AM »
The half cock notch on the hammer is very near the vertical surface at the face of the hammer (vertical when the hammer is up).  Very tiny notch, very near the face of the hammer, maybe 1/8"?

When the hammer is dropped to half cock it is really not half the distance from full cock to hammer down against the back of the slide. 

When you use the decocker to drop the hammer, grab the slide and slowly push it to the rear.  When the slide contacts the hammer are the two notches on the left side (one on the slide, one on the frame) pretty close to be lined up?  The marks you line up to remove the slide stop are usually very close to lined up, but I've read that some people have pistols where the marks do not line up.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2018, 02:40:31 PM »
I know the half cock position is not actually half way through the hammer travel. My question is whether or not the decocker should leave the sear engaged on the hammer safe position. It doesn't. After decocking, I have to pull the hammer back (as if cocking) just a hair to get the sear to drop into the hammer safe notch on the hammer.

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2018, 03:25:08 PM »
Are you saying that the hammer is decoking down onto the Firing Pin? If not, i am unclear how the hammer could stop past the half cock notch but still stop before the fully down position. The hammer should only be able to stop in three positions, Hammer down, half cock and full cock.
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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 03:27:40 PM »
I don't understand what the hammer stops at if it's not stopping on the half cock notch.

After the half cock notch there's nothing to catch/stop the hammer till it hits the firing pin/back of the slide.

If your hammer is bypassing the half cock notch ----that is a bad thing.  The only thing stopping your pistol from firing might be the firing pin block since your are not pulling the trigger when you use the decocker.

That is BAD if that is happening.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2018, 07:17:50 PM »
Recently purchased a brand new P-07 from a retailer . No rounds through it yet. In the process of reading the manual and learning basic function I noticed that the decocker does not seem to leave the hammer in the "half cocked" position. After using the decocker, you can pull the hammer back just a tiny bit and hear it click into the half cocked position. I mean just a hair. Is this normal?

I'd say it is normal. My P-07 with nearly 10,000 rnds fired will do the same thing. If you decock the pistol and draw back lightly on the hammer you can hear a small click. There is nothing to worry about the hammer has full engagement with the sear and the safety hooks on the hammer. I examined my pistol with the slide off and there is no way the hammer is getting past the safety hooks. The safety hooks just are not machined for a perfect fit with the sear so you can get it to take a set after decocking and drawing the hammer back slightly.
I'd go put some rounds through that new pistol and enjoy it.

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2018, 08:11:12 PM »
Just got home. My marks don't quite add up.

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2018, 08:23:51 PM »
Thanks Parrabellum. I was concerned because with the slide off you can see the sear fall down a bit during the "click". Oh I plan on putting some rounds through it.

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P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2018, 09:12:36 PM »
I just bought a P07 last week brand new. No rounds through yet. Not home to see if mine does this.
I would take it to the range to see if it functions properly. I plan on going tomorrow.


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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2018, 01:46:51 AM »
I?ve checked my new P07 and after decocking and moving the hammer back manually I can hear a faint click beyond half cocked on the way to full cocked.
From fully down and manually bringing the hammer back I hear a click at half cocked and the hammer stays there.
So I believe my P07 is functioning correctly.
At half cocked going back there are no other stopping points.


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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2018, 06:23:16 AM »
Neither of my .40's do that (P07 and P09).

I have them set up for safeties, but the half cock notch/sears are the same either way.

If I let the hammer down on the half cock notch and then cock it there is no noise, other than a faint hammer spring sliding/popping on the hammer strut noise once on the P09 and twice on the P07 (I have to really get my ear up to the frame to hear it clearly).  My old CZ85 Pre B just cracks and pops all the way from hammer down to full cock, but it's not really a "click" as if something is resetting.

It may be something to do with the decocker mechanism since the safety set up doesn't do it (at least not on mine).
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-07 decocker problem?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2018, 09:15:25 PM »
Just checked mine, doesn't seem to have this issue. When I dry fire, hammer stops all the way down, touching the firing pin (as it should), and there is no visible gap between the hammer and slide. When I decock, the hammer stops before it hits the firing pin, and I can see a small gap between the hammer and slide from the side of the gun. I tried pulling the hammer back part of the way and it always returns to half cock.