Which handgun for CCW?

[PappaWheelie]

Admittedly I don't own a RAMI, but if you're going to carry one with a 14 round mag (to get a comfortable grip) I don't understand why you wouldn't just carry a PCR or P-01... The weight difference is pretty much negligible and the longer barrel length is better for performance and doesn't really impact concealability.

Hi christak,
The extended magazine RAMI is lighter, narrower, uglier, (just threw that one in there) and more concealable, with its 2.97 inch barrel, than the PCR and P-01 which I admit beat the pants off the RAMI for cosmetics. See last link below.
The RAMI was offspring of a Colt-CZ joint venture with sole Colt dictate of "external resemblance" to the classic Colt 1911.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=5466.0
The bad news was its "Ugly Duckling" departure from CZ's classic sculpted chamfer around the trigger guard, but the very good news is, present tense, that it copied the 1911's elliptical grip cross section, re-proportioned it for 40 S&W and 9mm in terms of length, and double stack in terms of width, resulting in state-of-the-art grip comfort and lateral grippablity, with added bonus of 14 round extended magazine (adopted from CZ PCR / P-01) having ergonomically perfect collar creating the ultimate embodiment of the CZ-classic forward-hooking butt.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=99762.0
The PappaWheelie Invisible 15 Round RAMI Holster offers perfect tucked shirt invisibility with unbelievable comfort.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=81829.msg600234#msg600234
Punching Above Weight https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=96929.msg746657#msg746657
Lubricant Friction Coefficient Comparison Studies https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=99122.msg764511#msg764511

[JM71]

I've got a CZ Pro Tec II that I carried for a while and switched it to my car gun. Normally carry an XDS in 9mm but thinking of selling both a getting 3 identical of something - carry, car and backup. Looking at new M&P 2.0.

[viking499]

I've got a CZ Pro Tec II that I carried for a while and switched it to my car gun. Normally carry an XDS in 9mm but thinking of selling both a getting 3 identical of something - carry, car and backup. Looking at new M&P 2.0.

I really like my 2.0 compact.

[Criz]

I carry my P01 Omega and I am a smaller guy at 5'7.  I thought I would carry my P30 but it shows a bit more than the CZ and just feels amazing in the hand.
The P30sk is next for me. 
You are okay with either striker or hammer?  I don't do strikers so it makes it easy although a VP9 is tempting.

[PnoyGeek]

Personally I prefer hammer-fired handguns so the P-10C is out for me.  If you need a light on your firearm I would recommend either the P-01 or P-07.  If I had to choose I prefer the P-01.  The difference in weight is not that much, the mags are cheaper and I can use any CZ 75 mags and it an all metal firearm.  The PCR will also be a good choice if you have no plans of ever using light.

[Zeebz]

You are okay with either striker or hammer?  I don't do strikers so it makes it easy although a VP9 is tempting.

I prefer hammer fired guns to strikers.  I don't own any strikers and the only ones I'd really even consider are the CZ P10C or possibly a Glock 29, and only because the Glock comes in 10mm.

[Criz]

Stick with a hammer then! 
Let's not mention the "G" word and now you are throwing out 10mm as an option for ccw?
Why did you sell your P30sk?  Seems like the best of all with the V1 trigger. 

[Zeebz]

Stick with a hammer then! 
Let's not mention the "G" word and now you are throwing out 10mm as an option for ccw?
Why did you sell your P30sk?  Seems like the best of all with the V1 trigger.

I am a huge fan of the 10mm  ...and Glock is the only company that makes anything concealable in that caliber.

I sold my P30S because I just wasn't a fan of it.  I love HKs, but I much prefer the USP series to the P30 series.  I did upgrade my P30's V3 trigger and installed a match FPBS, enhanced hammer spring, and match nickel plated sear and it made the trigger much nicer.  I can't deny that the ergonomics on the P30 are phenomenal, but again I just don't care for them as much as the USP.  If I got another HK for CCW it'd probably be a USP Compact.

I've since sold all my USPs and used the money from them to buy a Mark 23, but I ain't even going to think about trying to CCW that pig.

[christak]

Admittedly I don't own a RAMI, but if you're going to carry one with a 14 round mag (to get a comfortable grip) I don't understand why you wouldn't just carry a PCR or P-01... The weight difference is pretty much negligible and the longer barrel length is better for performance and doesn't really impact concealability.

Hi christak,
The extended magazine RAMI is lighter, narrower, uglier, (just threw that one in there) and more concealable, with its 2.97 inch barrel, than the PCR and P-01 which I admit beat the pants off the RAMI for cosmetics. See last link below.
The RAMI was offspring of a Colt-CZ joint venture with sole Colt dictate of "external resemblance" to the classic Colt 1911.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=5466.0
The bad news was its "Ugly Duckling" departure from CZ's classic sculpted chamfer around the trigger guard, but the very good news is, present tense, that it copied the 1911's elliptical grip cross section, re-proportioned it for 40 S&W and 9mm in terms of length, and double stack in terms of width, resulting in state-of-the-art grip comfort and lateral grippablity, with added bonus of 14 round extended magazine (adopted from CZ PCR / P-01) having ergonomically perfect collar creating the ultimate embodiment of the CZ-classic forward-hooking butt.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=99762.0
The PappaWheelie Invisible 15 Round RAMI Holster offers perfect tucked shirt invisibility with unbelievable comfort.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=81829.msg600234#msg600234
Punching Above Weight https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=96929.msg746657#msg746657
Lubricant Friction Coefficient Comparison Studies https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=99122.msg764511#msg764511

Happy the RAMI works so well for you. I've tried at least 3 different times to make myself buy a RAMI (most recently about a week ago), but can't seem to put the cash on the table. I own two P-01s, standard and Omega, and simply love them for carry (especially the Omega). I also carry a Sig P938 and a Walther P99c from time to time. I may yet buy a RAMI, but I love my current carry options and my P99c currently fills the niche of the RAMI.

[recoilguy]

I carry a P-01 in the colder months of the year which are quite a few of them around here.
some time I switch my PCR in just to carry it but not too often. The P-01 is an awesome shooting
well made reliable hand gun that hides well when dressed for colder weather.
That is all I can say

RCG

[PappaWheelie]

I've tried at least 3 different times to make myself buy a RAMI (most recently about a week ago), but can't seem to put the cash on the table. I may yet buy a RAMI, but I love my current carry options and my P99c currently fills the niche of the RAMI.

Don't try so hard, christak: when you realize, finally, that the P99c's greater recoil (plastic frame, taller bore center), increased thickness and barrel* length, and "rounded rectangle" grip cross section are demerits in comparison with the RAMI BD
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=99762.msg769614#msg769614
not to mention the fewer rounds, lack of night sights, and strong thumb safe space (from internal rails), it will happen naturally, without trying.
As evidence, I just yesterday learned that my gun enthusiast Nephew, who initially sparked my interest in firearms, and who went "meh..." a year or so ago after shooting my new-at-the-time CZ 97BD, just texted me to say he'd just shot a CZ 97B and was going tomorrow to trade his two Glocks in on a new CZ 97BD (says he has a local CZ dealer who stocks EVERY model CZ makes), to add to his Scorpion Evo, which he absolutely loves over a Daniel Defense AR-15. I had given up on him as hopeless.
http://www.czforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=5672.msg23619#msg23619
Just relax and let it happen. (  :o] )

*2.97" actual RAMI barrel length allows 12:00 IWB tucked shirt invisibility

[Erikw5490]

Another vote for a P-01 right here. Love something that isn?t a boring or gucci?d Out g19z

[nettle]

There is only one thing better than a PCR. And that's two of them. I just ordered my second one tonight.

[Erikw5490]

Have not gotten a chance to put hands on a pcr as of yet.