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Offline mike72ss

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2018, 07:42:25 PM »
I don't know. At any rate I didn't want to deal with it anymore. Traded it for a like new XD45 Service. I am also an XD fan. Sent my Phantom to CGW 2 wks ago. The P-07 won't be missed. It was a well used gun to begin with and had obviously had the trigger reworked. I don't know by whom. After this I just had it repaired again and moved it on.

Although I love my P-07,  I can't blame you. Let us know how the Phantom works out.

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2018, 07:44:21 PM »
Sounds more and more like someone did a botched job on the gun and then traded out of it at your expense. P-07's are great weapons. Mine has been outstanding. Hopefully you'll revisit the P-07 some day with an unadulterated version.

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2018, 01:06:06 PM »
Thanks...I may well do so.

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2018, 09:32:51 PM »
So that gun just “broke trigger springs”.  Hmmm.   First, I would say that CZ is perfectly capable of putting out batches of bad trigger springs. Therefore, I only replace trigger return springs on CZ’s with  CGW trigger springs.   While other guns can break their trigger return springs, CZ is just flat out known for it.  It is a crying shame but a shame nonetheless and CGW is the place to go to remedy this issue. 

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2018, 04:42:33 AM »
So that gun just “broke trigger springs”.  Hmmm.   First, I would say that CZ is perfectly capable of putting out batches of bad trigger springs. Therefore, I only replace trigger return springs on CZ’s with  CGW trigger springs.   While other guns can break their trigger return springs, CZ is just flat out known for it.  It is a crying shame but a shame nonetheless and CGW is the place to go to remedy this issue.

Maybe go back and read this entire thread start to finish.The gun nor CZ is at fault here. Someone did a botched action job on the gun.
By the way the CGW spring has been documented to break at times. I have a few of the CZ Custom enhanced springs in the event I ever need them.

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2018, 07:36:53 AM »
So that gun just “broke trigger springs”.  Hmmm.   First, I would say that CZ is perfectly capable of putting out batches of bad trigger springs. Therefore, I only replace trigger return springs on CZ’s with  CGW trigger springs.   While other guns can break their trigger return springs, CZ is just flat out known for it.  It is a crying shame but a shame nonetheless and CGW is the place to go to remedy this issue.

Maybe go back and read this entire thread start to finish.The gun nor CZ is at fault here. Someone did a botched action job on the gun.
By the way the CGW spring has been documented to break at times. I have a few of the CZ Custom enhanced springs in the event I ever need them.

Tried that but it is very unclear.  The only symptom I detect is that 2 trigger springs broke.  I'd LOVE to know how a 'botched action job' did that  - really - not a rhetorical thing.  All I can conclude is that it broke TRS's. 

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2018, 06:07:34 PM »
So that gun just “broke trigger springs”.  Hmmm.   First, I would say that CZ is perfectly capable of putting out batches of bad trigger springs. Therefore, I only replace trigger return springs on CZ’s with  CGW trigger springs.   While other guns can break their trigger return springs, CZ is just flat out known for it.  It is a crying shame but a shame nonetheless and CGW is the place to go to remedy this issue.

Maybe go back and read this entire thread start to finish.The gun nor CZ is at fault here. Someone did a botched action job on the gun.
By the way the CGW spring has been documented to break at times. I have a few of the CZ Custom enhanced springs in the event I ever need them.

Tried that but it is very unclear.  The only symptom I detect is that 2 trigger springs broke.  I'd LOVE to know how a 'botched action job' did that  - really - not a rhetorical thing.  All I can conclude is that it broke TRS's.
To some degree it's not clear but I deduce from what is posted that there is something more wrong possibly not even the trs. Sounds like he didn't even mess with trying the gun out after the second trip to the smith. I have to question what the smith did or was doing as well.

Offline M1A4ME

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2018, 08:04:38 PM »
As I recall, it only took me an hour or so to change mine out. Did it as preventive maintenance. Don't want to try it again. Watched the youtube videos, none of them worked for me. Probably just the way I held my mouth.

I did four of them.  Yeah, the first was a pain.  The second was easier, the third was pretty smooth.  By the time my youngest son brought his P07 over for the spring change and some polishing it was "almost" routine.

Now, hopefully, I won't every do one again, or it will be so far in the future I'll have forgotten the tricks.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.  So, if you see me walking the dogs with my SIG 556R, its okay.

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2018, 10:55:00 PM »
To nevada,  who said he watch several videos, and it didn't work for him ?
try JoeMustang99  on youTube.


Here are several videos for disassemble reassemble the po7 and po9. I use these when I first got my p-09 - PO 7 never previously owning a pistol that I took apart. It was very easy through these videos.
IMHO, everybody should have these saved in their computer or on their phone.
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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2018, 08:20:05 AM »
I have a friend who bought a po7 first pistol, he used  these videos and found it very easy.
And this is a guy who is inept when it comes to being mechanically inclined.
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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2018, 11:47:15 AM »
  The only symptom I detect is that 2 trigger springs broke.  I'd LOVE to know how a 'botched action job' did that  - really - not a rhetorical thing.   

Nowhere does the OP say a trigger spring broke.  That was the educated guess of other people in the thread.  He's certainly heard from the gunsmith what the problem was and just hasn't said.  We don't know for sure.

I can't imagine a botched trigger job would expose a TRS to breakage after 30 rounds, but again, we don't know if any TRS was broken.  However, a botched trigger job might screw with the timing such that pieces get tied up and the trigger can't reset.  I would have advised him, as someone else did early on, to get the pistol back from the smith and diagnose/fix the problem himself, with our help.  It's quite possible the smith simply took it apart, put it back together, and said "Hmm... works fine."  Given the number of times I've heard of people who have taken CZs to smiths who had no idea how to work on them, I would never take one to a smith that didn't specifically specialize in them.
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Offline MuzzleBlastMD

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2018, 12:05:00 PM »
Definitely nothing worth sending back to CZ or bringing to a gunsmith for. 2 minutes and it's swapped.

Exactly.

I stock spares of parts for that reason.

OP: Get yourself a set of Punches and a small plastic head/brass head hammer. 

Most of these things are fixed easily. Beats waiting a week to a few weeks for something that takes less than 5 minutes to do.


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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2018, 03:44:51 PM »
Just a few things to add. Thanks, I do own a set of punches and appropriate hammer. I didn't want to mess with it. The gun was a well worn "Duty" version with an exceptionally light trigger. The gun was traded to the shop where I bought it by a gentleman from the other end of my state. The shop that sold me the gun was standing behind it. Their gunsmith did the repairs. No charge. I appreciated that. Maybe I should have tried the repair myself but I chose not to. Maybe next time. I really do appreciate all the advice. I do feel as though I learned something.
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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2018, 04:15:10 PM »
Just a few things to add. Thanks, I do own a set of punches and appropriate hammer. I didn't want to mess with it. The gun was a well worn "Duty" version with an exceptionally light trigger. The gun was traded to the shop where I bought it by a gentleman from the other end of my state. The shop that sold me the gun was standing behind it. Their gunsmith did the repairs. No charge. I appreciated that. Maybe I should have tried the repair myself but I chose not to. Maybe next time. I really do appreciate all the advice. I do feel as though I learned something.

Still curious as to what they told you.  Did they tell you what the repairs were?

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Re: My P-07 broke
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2018, 02:40:57 AM »
Bent the spring back in place. Sounds a little strange but that was the explanation.

 

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