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Post by: Psyop96 on April 07, 2017, 07:01:37 AM
. If it's any consolation, it's not even in stock at the factory store....just a store model to torture the customers. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170407/8b4ad17286fdfeb3226ca15f9349a1fe.jpg)
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Post by: ranastas on April 21, 2017, 02:11:19 PM
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Post by: Pilot1 on April 21, 2017, 02:24:11 PM
It looks like the end of April date is in jeopardy
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How so? Where did you hear that?
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Post by: Chuck Zulu on April 21, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
Well, this one didn't make it on to the boat. Assembly required too
Looks a lot like a Glock. But, of course will be better... ;)
Post by: Psyop96 on April 22, 2017, 03:43:24 AM
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Post by: eastman on April 23, 2017, 06:30:12 PM
Well, that's a start! What is the price tag right now?
The mags were $40 yesterday on their site
Post by: Droopy on April 23, 2017, 10:37:35 PM
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Post by: WilburWildcat on April 24, 2017, 05:16:19 PM
And, they ARE compatible with my P-07!
Post by: badwrench on April 24, 2017, 05:23:05 PM
Just stopped in at Buds in TN and they said they were just told the P-10C likely won't ship until third quarter. He said that came directly from CZ USA. If they get them sooner it would be a surprise.
Funny, on another board, a poster was told by CZ customer service that they expect shipment within the next few days..I don't know who's telling the truth here...
Post by: rich63 on April 24, 2017, 05:28:49 PM
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Just stopped in at Buds in TN and they said they were just told the P-10C likely won't ship until third quarter. He said that came directly from CZ USA. If they get them sooner it would be a surprise.
Funny, on another board, a poster was told by CZ customer service that they expect shipment within the next few days..I don't know who's telling the truth here...
Post by: armoredman on April 24, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
Post by: whrussell21 on April 24, 2017, 08:24:59 PM
The clerk behind the counter? Last word I got from a CZ VP was end of this month, so the next 7 days. I will ask again. :)
Believe it when I see it. I would have a hard time believing they have any hope of shipping in the next 7 days. Big shops like Buds would have already been told to be expecting them if that was the case but we shall see.
Post by: Droopy on April 25, 2017, 08:23:19 AM
James Dormady
James Dormady P10c still being released this month?
Like ? Reply ? 3 ? April 18 at 12:40pm
CZ-USA
CZ-USA James- Yep!
Like ? Reply ? 1 ? April 18 at 12:49pm
Dirk Sanders
Dirk Sanders CZ-USA , LGS told me the P10C has been bumped to May...???
Like ? Reply ? April 20 at 4:29pm
James Dormady
James Dormady That bleep gun ain't ever coming out
Like ? Reply ? April 20 at 4:36pm
CZ-USA
CZ-USA Dirk- Maybe that's their word about their individual order, but we're still set to get them later this month.
I had BUD'S lie to me before also I don't trust them myself.
Post by: armoredman on April 25, 2017, 10:01:25 AM
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Post by: badwrench on April 25, 2017, 08:42:38 PM
CZ-USA posted earlier today on FB that the first shipment was in the air headed to the U.S. with 2 more following closely.
Now they just have to get through customs....But at least they're coming..
Post by: Joe Allen on April 25, 2017, 09:58:48 PM
CZ-USA posted earlier today on FB that the first shipment was in the air headed to the U.S. with 2 more following closely.
They're not using Malaysian Air Freight, I hope.
Post by: warrior on April 26, 2017, 12:49:57 AM
Do you have one on order anywhere?CZ-USA posted earlier today on FB that the first shipment was in the air headed to the U.S. with 2 more following closely.
They're not using Malaysian Air Freight, I hope.
Post by: O.B.B. on April 26, 2017, 05:51:55 AM
CZ-USA posted earlier today on FB that the first shipment was in the air headed to the U.S. with 2 more following closely.I saw that. They also said first shipment is standard black only on the manifest. I'm may wait to see the other options before I pick one up.
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Post by: Joe Allen on April 26, 2017, 12:36:57 PM
Do you have one on order anywhere?
I told my LGS I wanted one, but that was back in December, so who knows... I didn't put any money down or anything.
Post by: Independent George on April 26, 2017, 01:43:47 PM
CZ-USA is the only US importer for CZ-UB, right? So if they get their shipment this week, they still have to send the guns to all the various resellers and distributors.
If that's the case, it doesn't seem out of the question that both statements might be true. CZ-USA could get, say, 1,000 P-10 pistols imported this week, with X going to a large retailer like Bud's, but someone's local shop not slated to get their order until Q3.
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Post by: whrussell21 on April 26, 2017, 02:11:17 PM
Post by: flattusmaximus78 on April 26, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
The side of the trigger is different than any other I have seen in pictures.
Post by: deadduck357 on April 26, 2017, 09:08:59 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTXKSldB43x/?tagged=czp10c&hl=en
The side of the trigger is different than any other I have seen in pictures.
Yep, trigger appears different.
Post by: incogneato on April 26, 2017, 09:21:06 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTXKSldB43x/?tagged=czp10c&hl=en
The side of the trigger is different than any other I have seen in pictures.
I don't think that pic is of a production gun. I've seen it before, but hadn't noticed the difference in the trigger until you pointed it out (great eye, BTW!). Although B&W, there is a photo of a P10C at 1:33 in this video (from last Christmas Eve) on the same background, and the trigger looks just like the one you posted. It could be that you have spied an early prototype; congratulations!
It seems the deadduck has the eyes of an eagle! ;D
Post by: eastman on April 26, 2017, 10:47:17 PM
With the trigger not reset in the picture, the safety dingus on their trigger does appear to be sticking out a little farther.
Post by: armoredman on April 27, 2017, 01:53:20 AM
IdependantGeorge, yes, CZ-USA is the wholly owned subsidiary of CZ-UB and they are the only conduit for new CZ products into the US. The factory in the Czech Republic fills orders civilian and military world wide, so sometimes some products not in very high demand world wide might be lower on the priority list. I know we have international members here who have stated they've been told their countries are below the US on the distribution list for the P-10C, for now. Hopefully the demand will be as high for the P-10C as it seems to be right now, and the gun will "catch fire"...anything to hopefully convince CZ-UB that building a factory over here might be a good idea... 8)
Post by: oldfrank on April 28, 2017, 03:06:17 PM
To tell the honest truth, I was underwhelmed. It did have a smooth trigger pull but long reset.
I guess I like the hammered CZ's more than I realized. I will have to wait and see, no telling what I might buy down the road.
On a separate note, The Sig 320 was fat and chunky didn't like it. FNs 9 Compact was a really nice gun, Beretta APX felt really good in the hand. The FN 509 seemed to be a good gun also.
Post by: Psyop96 on April 28, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
I got to hold one today at the NRA Convention in Atlanta.Strange. The two that I have dry fired had very short resets (pull the trigger; continue to hold it to the rear while recocking it; release trigger and pull again). One was Eastman's demo and the other is at the CZUB store.
To tell the honest truth, I was underwhelmed. It did have a smooth trigger pull but long reset.
Post by: whrussell21 on April 28, 2017, 06:46:55 PM
I got to hold one today at the NRA Convention in Atlanta.
To tell the honest truth, I was underwhelmed. It did have a smooth trigger pull but long reset.
I guess I like the hammered CZ's more than I realized. I will have to wait and see, no telling what I might buy down the road.
On a separate note, The Sig 320 was fat and chunky didn't like it. FNs 9 Compact was a really nice gun, Beretta APX felt really good in the hand. The FN 509 seemed to be a good gun also.
I agree about the P-10C. Held one at the NRA convention as well and was kindof let down. It was ok but it won't be replacing my Glock 19 as my go to strike fired. I will see how it shakes out before I pick one up.
Post by: clayboy223 on April 29, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
Also heard from cz-USA this morning that those who ordered through their Mil/Le program,12% of each shipment is dedicated to those folks. So my question is how many of us ordered through the Mil/Le program and when? My order was placed 6March.
Good luck all!
Post by: Joe L on April 29, 2017, 07:28:31 PM
Joe
Post by: incogneato on April 29, 2017, 11:34:46 PM
Also heard from cz-USA this morning that those who ordered through their Mil/Le program,12% of each shipment is dedicated to those folks. So my question is how many of us ordered through the Mil/Le program and when? My order was placed 6March.
I've wondered about that; thanks for posting!
My order was 14Feb.
Post by: armoredman on April 30, 2017, 01:42:11 AM
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Post by: whrussell21 on April 30, 2017, 12:05:09 PM
My buddy bought 2 of the P10s from DE guns Friday night. He expects them be here Wednesday. It appears they had several :)
$1,000+ on a 1st batch of unproven model tuppleware guns. Yikes, your buddy has balls of steel. After holding the gun at NRA I will see where realibilty issues stand in a few months. I expect the first few batches to have some issues like any new guns.
Post by: badwrench on April 30, 2017, 12:56:04 PM
My buddy bought 2 of the P10s from DE guns Friday night. He expects them be here Wednesday. It appears they had several :)
$1,000+ on a 1st batch of unproven model tuppleware guns. Yikes, your buddy has balls of steel. After holding the gun at NRA I will see where realibilty issues stand in a few months. I expect the first few batches to have some issues like any new guns.
I think you're basing alot of opinion on a couple of samples seen at the NRA show, which is a big mistake, because you don't know how many people before you dry fired it, dropped it, and god knows what else was done to it before you got to it.On another forum (m4c) a person there was also at the NRA show and also looked at the P-10c in his opinion, the trigger, reset was great..
Post by: whrussell21 on April 30, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
My buddy bought 2 of the P10s from DE guns Friday night. He expects them be here Wednesday. It appears they had several :)
$1,000+ on a 1st batch of unproven model tuppleware guns. Yikes, your buddy has balls of steel. After holding the gun at NRA I will see where realibilty issues stand in a few months. I expect the first few batches to have some issues like any new guns.
I think you're basing alot of opinion on a couple of samples seen at the NRA show, which is a big mistake, because you don't know how many people before you dry fired it, dropped it, and god knows what else was done to it before you got to it.On another forum (m4c) a person there was also at the NRA show and also looked at the P-10c in his opinion, the trigger, reset was great..
No not at all. Yeah the one I held wasn't that great but every company has issues with new firearms. Glock, Sig, etc. I am also basing it on a company who has little to no experience with polymore striker fired firearms. The pistol will obviously eventually be great as CZ is a great company but there is going to be issues from these first few batches. I will eventually pick one up but it will be after all the kinks are worked out.
I made the mistake with the Sig P320 when it was released. My one with with less than two mags through it had 15+ light primer strikes in 100 rounds of premium ammo (HST & Gold dot). Sig worked them out eventually and now have a very reliable firearm. People are putting way to much faith into companies to create a perfect firearm but that's never ever the case.
Post by: badwrench on April 30, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
My buddy bought 2 of the P10s from DE guns Friday night. He expects them be here Wednesday. It appears they had several :)
$1,000+ on a 1st batch of unproven model tuppleware guns. Yikes, your buddy has balls of steel. After holding the gun at NRA I will see where realibilty issues stand in a few months. I expect the first few batches to have some issues like any new guns.
I think you're basing alot of opinion on a couple of samples seen at the NRA show, which is a big mistake, because you don't know how many people before you dry fired it, dropped it, and god knows what else was done to it before you got to it.On another forum (m4c) a person there was also at the NRA show and also looked at the P-10c in his opinion, the trigger, reset was great..
No not at all. Yeah the one I held wasn't that great but every company has issues with new firearms. Glock, Sig, etc. I am also basing it on a company who has little to no experience with polymore striker fired firearms. The pistol will obviously eventually be great as CZ is a great company but there is going to be issues from these first few batches. I will eventually pick one up but it will be after all the kinks are worked out.
I made the mistake with the Sig P320 when it was released. My one with with less than two mags through it had 15+ light primer strikes in 100 rounds of premium ammo (HST & Gold dot). Sig worked them out eventually and now have a very reliable firearm. People are putting way to much faith into companies to create a perfect firearm but that's never ever the case.
Well, I had one of the very first HK VP9's serial number was under 3500, and I had zero problems with it, I traded it even up, for a nearly nib SP-01 tactical.As far as Sig goes, they've had more than their share of problems within the last few years, although they seem to have turned a corner for the better, Still, I would'nt use Sig as a benchmark. Myself I'm still going to take that chance, after losing the Glock lottery 3 times out of 3, trying to get a g19 that did'nt throw brass at me, I'll take my chances with CZ, my plan is to shoot the snot out of my P-10c when I get it,using different ammo, and after 500rnds with no problems, and provided it fits into my IWB kydex holster, I'm planning on carrying it..
Post by: Joe L on April 30, 2017, 02:47:08 PM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 01, 2017, 09:21:40 PM
Are those all black ones? I just wondering cuz it seems that CZ won't give a straight answer about the FDE ones. I understand that the suppressor ones could take a bit longer cuz they take a longer barrel that also needs to be threaded thus taking a complete machine change over but to make an FDE one should use exact same molds as all 3 versions with only a change in color of the polymer or pigment to do the FDE ones thus making it much easier and quicker to do. But all CZ says is that they have to wait for each manifest as things ship when I would think CZ UB should be able an about date like they did when they said the end of April for any to get here. This has bugged me to the point that I am considering buying a P07 and giving up on the P10 for a while.
Go big! I pulled the trigger on a Cajun Gun Workz Pro Package P-01. I am going to wait and see how the P-10 pans out. I also want to wait for the FDE so I would be waiting anyways. Does anyone know what the stock night sights will be or when Truglo might introduce TFX Pros for the P-10?
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Post by: ranastas on May 02, 2017, 11:58:41 AM
The sites will be the same as the P07 that's why I have decide to get it first cuz the mags will be interchangeable also. That is part of the reason anyways the other is that iAMMO has a sale on the P07 for $429 + 7.23 S&H to my FFL who charges $20 to transfer it. $456.23 OTD is a really great deal in my area for a new P07. I will have to cut a notch in the ones that come with the P07 to use them in the P10 once I do get it but any mags from the P10 will automatically work on the P07. Sorry if I made that more confusing than it needed to be just make sure if you get extra mags before buying the P10 or P07 that you only buy P10 ones for nowYou may not have to mod them, mine purchased about 2 months ago came with the new mags with the orange followers that are P10 ready(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170502/c56816e14d447daf89bc342c8208e152.jpg)
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 02, 2017, 07:25:24 PM
Post by: eastman on May 02, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
The sites will be the same as the P07 that's why I have decide to get it first cuz the mags will be interchangeable also. That is part of the reason anyways the other is that iAMMO has a sale on the P07 for $429 + 7.23 S&H to my FFL who charges $20 to transfer it. $456.23 OTD is a really great deal in my area for a new P07. I will have to cut a notch in the ones that come with the P07 to use them in the P10 once I do get it but any mags from the P10 will automatically work on the P07. Sorry if I made that more confusing than it needed to be just make sure if you get extra mags before buying the P10 or P07 that you only buy P10 ones for now
The front sight on the P-10c in my possession is a standard #3 P-07 sight. The rear sight appears to be the same dovetail, but it is taller than the P-07 standard version.
Post by: ranastas on May 02, 2017, 09:56:33 PM
Appears to be underwood ammo.Correct
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Post by: jb1911 on May 03, 2017, 07:53:51 PM
Same here on KYgunco.
I got up at 7am this morning and saw the email. I jumped on the KGC site and they were already gone. Should have got up at 6am.
Post by: TX-Prerunner on May 04, 2017, 01:48:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfNXlUNj6Lg
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 04, 2017, 03:14:18 PM
New guy here and anxiously waiting for P10C's to "really" become available. I hope the Unicorn label that is applied to other CZ's does not become normal for these as well. Appreciate the video as there has not been anything new since the initial test guns. Seems like CZ has allowed a lot of the initial excitement to die down.
If they're half as popular as a G19 and how slow CZ imports firearms from the Czech it won't only be a unicorn, they're will be more confirmed sightings of big foot. My only complaint with CZ is they need to up production or get a US plant going to meet the demand.
Post by: Iluvboost on May 04, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
It might be that they do guns in batches and the us is not the only market for them. Cz's have always been hard to find somewhat depending how popular a certain model is.New guy here and anxiously waiting for P10C's to "really" become available. I hope the Unicorn label that is applied to other CZ's does not become normal for these as well. Appreciate the video as there has not been anything new since the initial test guns. Seems like CZ has allowed a lot of the initial excitement to die down.
If they're half as popular as a G19 and how slow CZ imports firearms from the Czech it won't only be a unicorn, they're will be more confirmed sightings of big foot. My only complaint with CZ is they need to up production or get a US plant going to meet the demand.
Post by: whrussell21 on May 04, 2017, 04:11:47 PM
It might be that they do guns in batches and the us is not the only market for them. Cz's have always been hard to find somewhat depending how popular a certain model is.New guy here and anxiously waiting for P10C's to "really" become available. I hope the Unicorn label that is applied to other CZ's does not become normal for these as well. Appreciate the video as there has not been anything new since the initial test guns. Seems like CZ has allowed a lot of the initial excitement to die down.
If they're half as popular as a G19 and how slow CZ imports firearms from the Czech it won't only be a unicorn, they're will be more confirmed sightings of big foot. My only complaint with CZ is they need to up production or get a US plant going to meet the demand.
Pretty obvious the USA isn't the only market for any firearm but the US demands 90% of all production guaranteed of every firearm manufacture. There's a reason that all of the European Gun makers started plants here, Sig, Beretta, Glock, etc. They understand the USA is where their money is made. I have no problems with them doing things in batches but they can't even keep models like the P-01/PCR in stock so I can only imagine how it will be if the P-10C is popular.
Glock use to keep big shops in stock with 200+ G19s for a reason because you can make one the best
Pistols on the planet but it doesn't matter if you aren't capable of producing enough for the demand. A US plant would be the only fix because the importing process everytime takes way to long. Hell we have only seen a handful make it to dealers after of them being shipped to CZ USA for almost two weeks.
Post by: Iluvboost on May 04, 2017, 04:27:26 PM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 04, 2017, 04:43:41 PM
I agree that a us plant would help things. I don't know about the us being 90% but it is atleast 50%. Its kinda not the same to compare glock with cz. Glock seems to have less models compared. You have the 17,19 and 26 in small frame. Then the big frame guns like .45, 10mm. Cz has compacts in different flavors, decocker and safety models. The frames are different between the 2.
You're underestimating the firearms purchased in this country. Last guess was 350 million+ firearms in the US alone. There is a reason that CZ has designated most if not all of early P-10C shipments to only come to the USA.
Post by: Iluvboost on May 04, 2017, 06:12:16 PM
I'm not, you're only looking at civilian ownership. Cz has other contracts aside from civilian sales. I'm just saying theres other things at work here and I agree that unless they open another factory, its gonna be that much harder to find their weapons. Before the move and even now, look at how hard it is to find a beretta m9a3.I agree that a us plant would help things. I don't know about the us being 90% but it is atleast 50%. Its kinda not the same to compare glock with cz. Glock seems to have less models compared. You have the 17,19 and 26 in small frame. Then the big frame guns like .45, 10mm. Cz has compacts in different flavors, decocker and safety models. The frames are different between the 2.
You're underestimating the firearms purchased in this country. Last guess was 350 million+ firearms in the US alone. There is a reason that CZ has designated most if not all of early P-10C shipments to only come to the USA.
Post by: whrussell21 on May 04, 2017, 07:52:28 PM
I'm not, you're only looking at civilian ownership. Cz has other contracts aside from civilian sales. I'm just saying theres other things at work here and I agree that unless they open another factory, its gonna be that much harder to find their weapons. Before the move and even now, look at how hard it is to find a beretta m9a3.I agree that a us plant would help things. I don't know about the us being 90% but it is atleast 50%. Its kinda not the same to compare glock with cz. Glock seems to have less models compared. You have the 17,19 and 26 in small frame. Then the big frame guns like .45, 10mm. Cz has compacts in different flavors, decocker and safety models. The frames are different between the 2.
You're underestimating the firearms purchased in this country. Last guess was 350 million+ firearms in the US alone. There is a reason that CZ has designated most if not all of early P-10C shipments to only come to the USA.
After carrying a Beretta M9 in Iraq and Afghanistan I refuse to ever touch that junk again. However Beretta moved to TN where I live so I am happy other people want their products.
Post by: armoredman on May 05, 2017, 01:10:12 AM
But, we digress - I do know some P-10Cs have been sent out, some reports are coming back that some distributors have them, and more are on the way in. As for a factory, I have asked CZ more than once for that, but it's all up to market forces, both exterior to and interior of the US, as CZ-UB is a very busy international producer with a lot of contracts with many countries. I have heard some of our members in Europe and elsewhere who have stated they were told they don't get any P-10Cs until the US back order is filled.
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Post by: FrankW on May 05, 2017, 10:31:06 AM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 05, 2017, 10:38:42 AM
I feel bad for the people who pre ordered the FDEs expecting to get night sights. I wonder if CZ plans on sending them a set later?
Post by: badwrench on May 05, 2017, 11:22:10 AM
CZ USA Facebook just said FDE P-10s are being packed for shipment to them from CZ UB. They also said none of these FDE's will have night sights as they are not fully developed yet. Another let down!
I feel bad for the people who pre ordered the FDEs expecting to get night sights. I wonder if CZ plans on sending them a set later?
That would'nt bother me in the least. CZ would likely ship them with 3-dot night sights, myself I prefer 2- dot, or 1- dot, so I'd be changing them out when I found something I liked.. Items like sights are a personel choice, and rarely does a manfacturer send a pistol out with decent sights, I always figure in the cost of replacing the stock sights when buying a pistol.
Post by: HST on May 05, 2017, 11:26:32 AM
Post by: whrussell21 on May 05, 2017, 11:34:02 AM
CZ USA Facebook just said FDE P-10s are being packed for shipment to them from CZ UB. They also said none of these FDE's will have night sights as they are not fully developed yet. Another let down!
I feel bad for the people who pre ordered the FDEs expecting to get night sights. I wonder if CZ plans on sending them a set later?
That would'nt bother me in the least. CZ would likely ship them with 3-dot night sights, myself I prefer 2- dot, or 1- dot, so I'd be changing them out when I found something I liked.. Items like sights are a personel choice, and rarely does a manfacturer send a pistol out with decent sights, I always figure in the cost of replacing the stock sights when buying a pistol.
I didn't pre order one so I could careless but gurantee people did order them on the premises of getting night sights stock. Also believe the price of the FDE was $100 more due to the sights. So will CZ reduce the price of these FDEs, refund any extra charged money, or send the night sights?
So you're willing just to pay an extra $100+ for just FDE?
Post by: barrister on May 05, 2017, 12:13:53 PM
Post by: rich63 on May 05, 2017, 12:26:34 PM
I like a large grip although I have medium sized hands. Put the large back strap on. What a pain it was taking out the pin that holds the back straps. Whoever goes to change out the back straps will know exactly what I mean. Over the large back strap I put on Hogue handall. This set up feels good to me. Have the same set up on my P-07. It has 3-dot white sights. They're not bad. May change them out later.
The trigger is good. It's smooth almost to the break, hits a wall then bam clean, crisp break. The reset is good. In my opinion not as short as some of the reviews I seen online of the pre-production guns. Still very good reset. I was consistently getting 4 1/2# trigger pulls. My only issue I have is a very stiff magazine release. Hopefully that should loosen up as I put rounds through it and do mag drops. Haven't been to the range yet but hopefully soon.
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Post by: Joe L on May 05, 2017, 01:00:14 PM
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Post by: badwrench on May 05, 2017, 01:04:56 PM
CZ USA Facebook just said FDE P-10s are being packed for shipment to them from CZ UB. They also said none of these FDE's will have night sights as they are not fully developed yet. Another let down!
I feel bad for the people who pre ordered the FDEs expecting to get night sights. I wonder if CZ plans on sending them a set later?
That would'nt bother me in the least. CZ would likely ship them with 3-dot night sights, myself I prefer 2- dot, or 1- dot, so I'd be changing them out when I found something I liked.. Items like sights are a personel choice, and rarely does a manfacturer send a pistol out with decent sights, I always figure in the cost of replacing the stock sights when buying a pistol.
I didn't pre order one so I could careless but gurantee people did order them on the premises of getting night sights stock. Also believe the price of the FDE was $100 more due to the sights. So will CZ reduce the price of these FDEs, refund any extra charged money, or send the night sights?
So you're willing just to pay an extra $100+ for just FDE?
No. I don't really care, black or FDE, I'm willing to pay a little extra for FDE (say $20-25 or so) but that's it. If I can't get FDE, no problem, I'll go with black. As I said however, sights are a personal choice, and it's likely that whatever sights come on the P-10c that I get, will probably get changed when something I like comes along.
Post by: barrister on May 05, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
Also, in news I like, they said XS is close to completion on development of their night sights. I'm a fan of the big dots.
Post by: viking499 on May 05, 2017, 01:30:37 PM
CZ now says these new FDE batches will be given a separate SKU and priced the same as the standard black until the night sight issue is resolved.
Also, in news I like, they said XS is close to completion on development of their night sights. I'm a fan of the big dots.
What is the night sight issue?
Post by: whrussell21 on May 05, 2017, 02:12:45 PM
CZ now says these new FDE batches will be given a separate SKU and priced the same as the standard black until the night sight issue is resolved.
Also, in news I like, they said XS is close to completion on development of their night sights. I'm a fan of the big dots.
What is the night sight issue?
Not sure their only comment was that the night sights are not fully developed yet. By how it sounds no other CZ model sights are going to be compatible with the P-10. I thought I seen someone here say P-07 sights would fit along with some notched mags.
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Post by: dmossman on May 05, 2017, 04:45:56 PM
Can anyone tell me what back strap comes on the p10-c shipped? Someone said they had a bear of a time getting the pin out. I'm hoping it ships with the small installed.
Mine came with the small installed. Not too bad to change with the correct size punch.
I have medium glove hands and went with the medium.
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Post by: rich63 on May 05, 2017, 05:19:59 PM
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Post by: armoredman on May 05, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
First I'd heard of the night sight issue, that's a shame. I get night sights on all my carry pistols, so if I can get a P-10C, it will not be in rotation until I can get some on it. Just a personal preference thing for me, and how I train at work, nothing more. Not sure what I have laying about I could push the rool pin with if I want to swap out backstraps - what size hex wrench didja use? Those I do have laying about!
Post by: rich63 on May 05, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
Not exactly sure of the size. Just found one that was close in size just laying around in my tool box.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 05, 2017, 06:38:40 PM
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Post by: rich63 on May 05, 2017, 06:59:01 PM
One more question guys, the p10-c ships with two magazines correct?
Mine did. 2 - 15 rounders.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 05, 2017, 07:03:34 PM
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Post by: eastman on May 06, 2017, 01:57:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what back strap comes on the p10-c shipped? Someone said they had a bear of a time getting the pin out. I'm hoping it ships with the small installed.
They will probably have the small size installed.
As far as changing the backstrap - it is easier than a P-07/P-09 since you don't have to compress a hammer spring. It is a long pin though. (I switched to medium)
Post by: eastman on May 06, 2017, 02:00:37 PM
From the way they made it sound, the back strap was a bit on the aggressive side, maybe they haven't had the baby rubbed off their hands yet, who knows... Thanks for the info.
It is aggressive, but with the correct size backstrap installed, you won't really notice it. It only becomes noticeable when the backstrap is too small and the pistol moves a little when fired.
Post by: incogneato on May 06, 2017, 02:24:16 PM
Great news for those that want FDE. Maybe bad news for those that want the standard black ones like myself. Production of FDE, suppressor and .40 versions to get the guns out in the public eye may take priority and delay more shipments of the black ones. Just thinking selfishly here lol.
I knew the FDE was being readied to ship, but had not heard the black would be affected. I hope they at least fill the backlog of individual orders first, since they are having to change SKUs and adjust pricing to reflect the FDE not shipppng with night sights initially.
...and because I want mine ;)
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 06, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
Post by: whrussell21 on May 06, 2017, 05:03:29 PM
Thanks for the information. I was blessed with small hands to make everything look larger.... How would you describe the width compared to a 19?
They are practically the exact same. The P-10 feels slimmer due to being more ergo and not blocky but I don't think there is much difference at all.
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 06, 2017, 05:15:40 PM
Well that's a relief, thanks.
Size/weight wise it's practically a mirror image of a G19.
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Post by: rich63 on May 06, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Found two pack on Gun Broker for 65.00, on it's way.. Thanks for the info guys.
That's a good price. Just looked on gunbroker to order. What remains is too high. I'll just wait til greg cote gets more in. I'm in no hurry.
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Post by: Thepro788 on May 06, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
Thepro788, you said a couple of buddies got them, (two lucky guys in the same spot at the same time, nice!), and had complaints - do you have specifics and did you handle either of the pistols in question?the gun I said a couple buddies had was the apx that wasn't what they expected. I almost got one but decided against it. Now I'm very impatiently waiting for the p10c
First I'd heard of the night sight issue, that's a shame. I get night sights on all my carry pistols, so if I can get a P-10C, it will not be in rotation until I can get some on it. Just a personal preference thing for me, and how I train at work, nothing more. Not sure what I have laying about I could push the rool pin with if I want to swap out backstraps - what size hex wrench didja use? Those I do have laying about!
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 06, 2017, 09:21:57 PM
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http://vizardsgunsandammo.com/cz-11520-mag-cz-p10-9mm-15rd/
Post by: incogneato on May 06, 2017, 10:08:12 PM
Does anyone have any insight for a serpa holster for the p10. I've always used locking holsters on my handguns. I did hear of a custom kydex from a company I can't remember. Can you guys tell me what holsters you plan on running with your p10? Thanks
I have one from here, with a second one ordered- http://redhilltactical.com/
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Post by: dmossman on May 07, 2017, 07:47:27 PM
Talk to me about the trigger. Smoothing out? Reset, and so you find the slide stop/lock and magazine release stiff, also the trigger safety, does the tongue depress flush?.... That should be all for now.. Lol, thanks in advance.Trigger is good. Had a little grit at first but that has disappeared. Reset is short but not too short. Follow up shots are very manageable. Magazine release is not an issue. Slide release is pretty stiff but I usually slingshot so not an issue.
Overall, a nice addition. Steel Challenge went well today. Mainly wanted to see how it performed in a somewhat tactical situation. No troubles at all. Points naturally for me from a draw. Sights drop on target from the draw and also secondary shots. All my CZs shoot better than I do.
The P10 has moved into my carry rotation. I'll go back to my worked up 75 for SC though. Better sights and made for this. P10 got a lot of notice today though
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 07, 2017, 07:52:44 PM
Post by: dmossman on May 07, 2017, 07:58:30 PM
How do you like the stock sights?They work but will probably upgrade them when the market catches up.
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Post by: milq on May 08, 2017, 01:21:36 PM
I plan to make my own rear sight to replace the factory unit. I prefer black serated rear sights.
Post by: whrussell21 on May 08, 2017, 01:22:19 PM
Oak Hill Guns are selling a P-10 on Gunbroker but claim they're out of stock on their website and when I called them. Looking to just make a sizeable profit. Makes me look at their business like a Gas station who price gauges their customers.
I won't be buying from them for anything again.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 08, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
Post by: rich63 on May 08, 2017, 04:38:19 PM
The sights are dead on. I like a all-black rear sight with a red fiber optic front. These sights are good right out of the box. After doing a few from presentations from holster to see how the gun points it was time to do some shooting. I don't know what pound recoil spring came from the factory, but it was very easy to rack and do press checks. I stapled the paper plate to the backboard and walked off what I thought was 7 yards.
Took with me 100 rounds of reman 9 mm 115 gr fmj ammo from a company out of Bremen Oh called Rush Creek Ammunition. For the time being this was the only ammo I took with me. The gun functioned flawless. No problems with gun or ammo. The gun threw the brass approx 8 - 10 feet in the 3 - 4 o'clock position. As you can see from the pic I shot only 30 rounds. The lower left circle I went a little faster. The reason for hole opening up some. The recoil was very manageable.
I set up a steel target approx 12 yards to shoot the remainder of the 70 rounds. Was drawing from holster doing 1 shots, double taps and
a few bill drills. This gun is very manageable it made me a better shot that what I really am. For my first outing I'm very impressed with it. I have 5 other CZ's and they all have some form of CGW parts including 3 that have their Pro-Package. In my opinion this gun need nothing to it to make it better. I'm going to leave it stock and just shoot the snot out of it. I'm going to get a few additional magazines.
Sorry the pics aren't sharp. All I have is a flip phone. One of these days I will get a smart phone.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 08, 2017, 04:51:53 PM
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Post by: rich63 on May 08, 2017, 05:09:41 PM
Reading on another forum, has anybody had problems with mags sticking when released? On another board some folks were having problems with mags not dropping free when the mag release button is pushed, seems to be a random thing, as some mags do it, others don't...
Mine drop free. No problem. As I have expressed already, my only issue with the mag release is it's very stiff.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 08, 2017, 05:13:57 PM
Post by: rich63 on May 08, 2017, 05:18:32 PM
Thanks Rich63, I'll be sure to give a full report after range day. Not bad for putting the order in March 1. Picked up a 2 pack of p10 mags for 65.00, so I'm good right now with 4 mags. My next conquest is to find a serpa that will work for the p10. I have one here for my 22c so I'll give that a go and see how it fits. I will say I feel like I was treated very well from my local shop. I paid 485.00 plus tax.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170508/d73db6d21b28ce0edc798cf03324266f.jpg)
I saw your post where you the 2 additional mags. I went on gunbroker to check it out, but apparently you got the last set of 2. I'll look around tonight and see what's available. Not sure if I'm getting 2 or 3. I paid $474.82 from Kentucky Gun Club for mine. My P 10 C fit in Alien Gear OWB CZ P-07 holster. It wasn't a perfect fit at first, but I tightened down the screws and now good to go.
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Looks like they still do....(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170508/9d71daebbc85594e2d06cb84525795e1.jpg)Who has them for that price?
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Post by: StealthyTX on May 08, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/644627858
Oak Hill Guns are selling a P-10 on Gunbroker but claim they're out of stock on their website and when I called them. Looking to just make a sizeable profit. Makes me look at their business like a Gas station who price gauges their customers.
I won't be buying from them for anything again.
Well, then you won't like this seller...how does $1399 strike you?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/643716204
There are a few others in the $650-$700 range.
I'm perfectly happy to wait this out, and if this model has the same legendary scarcity as many of their other products, I'll probably give the FN 509 a good hard look, or maybe wait a bit for the Sid P320 X-Carry and forget about the P-10C. :-\
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 08, 2017, 08:27:26 PM
Post by: rich63 on May 08, 2017, 09:43:51 PM
When shooting, did you notice more of a push back recoil like a 45 has? I read because the slide sits inside the frame and not on top, it gives more of a push than a flip.
To be honest I did not notice any pushing or muzzle flip. The gun is very manageable. It's a very soft shooter.
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Post by: deadduck357 on May 09, 2017, 04:19:57 AM
Post by: HST on May 09, 2017, 07:01:59 AM
striker trigger on the market that i have felt . I am comparing it to a custom trigger job i had done on my walther which broke at 4.5 pounds and was a real nice trigger . So far i am
impressed and can't wait to send some rounds down range and see how much it cleans up and shoots.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 09, 2017, 09:40:19 AM
Post by: jb1911 on May 09, 2017, 11:17:56 AM
When shooting, did you notice more of a push back recoil like a 45 has? I read because the slide sits inside the frame and not on top, it gives more of a push than a flip.
Most CZ pistol slides ride inside the frame, the P10C is not one of them.
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 09, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
I could have swore that the slide sat inside the frame and not on top like a Glock. Live and learn, and admit when you're wrong.
https://youtu.be/4gqr2epxaWk
Go to like 17 mins. Scootch gives a good look. It's a little different than Glock but the slide to rail essientially lock into place the same as glock. He gives a side by side with a G19 also.
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Post by: eastman on May 09, 2017, 09:06:39 PM
When shooting, did you notice more of a push back recoil like a 45 has? I read because the slide sits inside the frame and not on top, it gives more of a push than a flip.
P-10c slide rides on top of the frame (like everybody else's striker-fired tupperware)
Post by: cntrydawwwg on May 09, 2017, 09:44:28 PM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170509/9c581dc0b7d119e215a45d65e895c1e0.jpg)Read it again. It says the "Rails" are "Inside" the slide.
Or in other words, the "Slide" is "Outside" the rails.
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Post by: rich63 on May 10, 2017, 05:44:08 AM
Yup, I admitted that I was wrong, can't do anymore than that. Live and learn...
Just yankin your chain a little RBD. We've all been there, no biggie.
Some of us (me) do it on a somewhat regular basis. It's part of the learning process.
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Post by: HST on May 10, 2017, 08:29:54 AM
I find the gun to be very accurate and feels real good my hand . I shot it with the small back strap that came on the gun and i found for me the
trigger reach to be too close , will be switching to medium one to give it a try. For the first 100 rounds the backstrap felt fine but after the next 100 rounds
it start to rip into my hand a little. The texture on the front and sides of the grip are fine but the backstrap is very aggressive if you shoot a lot at one time.
I will hit the backstrap with a little sandpaper and it should be fine. The trigger is one of the best i have felt in a striker fired pistol . I had a chance to compare
it to a APX side by side and both triggers are very close . I like the P 10 better . the APX has what i call the Glock boing , you pull the trigger the firing pin releases
the spring goes boing and the gun wiggles to the right a hair. Not as bad as a glock but it's still there. The reset on the P 10 is very short , easy double taps without
even thinking about it . These are just my opinions and your mileage might vary.
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I had a chance to go shoot my P 10 for the first time yesterday . I am not a gun reviewer nor do i play one on TV so this is just my opinion .
I find the gun to be very accurate and feels real good my hand . I shot it with the small back strap that came on the gun and i found for me the
trigger reach to be too close , will be switching to medium one to give it a try. For the first 100 rounds the backstrap felt fine but after the next 100 rounds
it start to rip into my hand a little. The texture on the front and sides of the grip are fine but the backstrap is very aggressive if you shoot a lot at one time.
I will hit the backstrap with a little sandpaper and it should be fine. The trigger is one of the best i have felt in a striker fired pistol . I had a chance to compare
it to a APX side by side and both triggers are very close . I like the P 10 better . the APX has what i call the Glock boing , you pull the trigger the firing pin releases
the spring goes boing and the gun wiggles to the right a hair. Not as bad as a glock but it's still there. The reset on the P 10 is very short , easy double taps without
even thinking about it . These are just my opinions and your mileage might vary.
I didn't notice that with the APX I shot, but I've never shot Glocks other than some worn out rental Glocks. The APX trigger was incredible and felt really nice. If hte P10C is better it'll be hard to not buy one.
Post by: ZeeC on May 10, 2017, 02:35:47 PM
I swear this is as bad as trying to get the PlayStation 2 at christmas so many moons ago. (Yes I know I am dating myself).
Post by: badwrench on May 10, 2017, 02:53:03 PM
Yes, I do not like the plastic CZ, now I hate the thought of a striker fire CZ, but really ....why would CZ deviate from a design that they have been using for years? The inside the rail ..(gives better accuracy) has been a trademark selling point of theirs, now it makes no difference as to in or outside the rail? Go from a unique design that is widely cloned and increasing in popularity to one that resembles 100s of other firearms. ?????
Simple..it's easier to mold the frame that way...The molds to make the frames are expensive (roughly $50k +,each) So, they're going to use a already proven method for molding in the frame rails as this saves time/ money. From what I've seen so far, the P-10 is no slouch in the accuracy dept. The P-10 is not giving up anything accuracy wise because of the frame rail arrangement. Really, it's a non- issue.
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Post by: eastman on May 10, 2017, 09:29:25 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to double post and rub it in.. Lol
Admit it - you really did mean to. O0
I've had a P-10c in my possession for the last 6 weeks, and I still have no idea when I'll have one in hand that I get to keep.
Post by: armoredman on May 11, 2017, 03:52:27 AM
ragingbulldaily, very nice, very nice - I can see the texturing in the photo. I'm thinking some sandpaper would be in order, yikes. :) I did hear a couple of comments that replacing the small with one of the larger backstraps made a difference in that the frame wouldn't shift as much during recoil and drive the texturing into the hand. We'll see. 8) Glad you got a smooth trigger.
Post by: O.B.B. on May 11, 2017, 07:47:58 AM
I missed the rest of the story this comment refers to.Sorry, didn't mean to double post and rub it in.. Lol
Admit it - you really did mean to. O0
I've had a P-10c in my possession for the last 6 weeks, and I still have no idea when I'll have one in hand that I get to keep.
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 11, 2017, 10:34:14 AM
CZUB is a business in a global market. The trend in their primary markets is towards polymer and striker fired so they have to go that route to compete and be a viable concern. If they can build a better mouse trap along those lines, kudos to them. So long as they maintain the "legacy" part of the business, we should be happy.
Not accurate at all. Polymore/striker fired have been trending LONG LONG before this year and CZ has competed and prospered just fine. Have you tried to find their P-01, P-01 Omega, Shadow 2s, etc. they can't keep them in stock unless it's on gunbroker. So to say they needed to get in this market "now" is completely wrong. This would have been a viable move 10+ years ago. Now they're in an overcrowded field and are going to struggle to make any headway vs Glock, M&P, and Sig especially in the military and law enforcement market. They don't have the abilty to be giving away tons of firearms to departments like other did/do. Now having to compete with the VP9, 509, Glock, P320, M&P, etc for civilians. They could make ground here but they would have to keep P-10s in stock.
Couple being late to the game with CZ's notoriously terrible ability to manufacture and keep firearms in stock I would expect the P-10 to simmer very quickly because people will buy other options they can actually find. They can't keep older models in stock like the P-01 and PCR and the Omega well that's like a unicorn. I can only imagine what it's going to be like once CZ UB starts back production on other models. The P-10 won't be able to be found at that point.
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 11, 2017, 10:50:44 AM
Post by: jb1911 on May 11, 2017, 10:56:40 AM
Post by: whrussell21 on May 11, 2017, 10:59:14 AM
Why are people questioning CZ on bringing polymer, striker fired hand guns to market. Do you guys think they are going to stop making the great pistols that we all love? No, they are just adding to a great catalog of small arms. Try to relax and embrace the diversity.
I think it's the fact they can't keep up production with the CZ's everyone loves so why venture into an unknown and cause so much more production delays to their tried and true money makers. Their entire production has been put forwards the P-10C to roll it out. With all of these delays with full production I can only imagine what it will be like once they start back with other models and start shipping to other countries etc.
That's my only complaint; if they could keep up production of their other models then fine do it. But since they can't now their hurting the models that actually made them popular. The P-10 could become the best striker fired of all time but if CZ can't keep it in the hands of consumers then it doesn't matter how good it is.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 11:00:39 AM
Post by: Psyop96 on May 11, 2017, 11:08:34 AM
FWIW, I heard not too long ago at the CZUB shop that they were starting to feel the disadvantage in foreign contracts (not the US market) without a striker option. While potential clients liked the ergos of the the hammer (and polymer) pistols, they wanted to go with striker fire for easier training. Thus, it was time to start a striker option even late into the season. We in NA tend to focus on the retail business in the US market. Na zdrav? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170511/4d52055c9281c5f3bbba92e1d911bbe3.jpg)CZUB is a business in a global market. The trend in their primary markets is towards polymer and striker fired so they have to go that route to compete and be a viable concern. If they can build a better mouse trap along those lines, kudos to them. So long as they maintain the "legacy" part of the business, we should be happy.
Not accurate at all. Polymore/striker fired have been trending LONG LONG before this year and CZ has competed and prospered just fine. Have you tried to find their P-01 Omega, Shadow 2s, etc. they can't keep them in stock unless it's on gunbroker. So to say they needed to get in this market "now" is completely wrong. This would have been a viable move 10+ years ago. Now they're in an overcrowded field and are going to struggle to make any headway vs Glock, M&P, and Sig especially in the military and law enforcement market. They don't have the abilty to be giving away tons of firearms to departments like other did/do. Now having to compete with the VP9, 509, Glock, P320, M&P, etc for civilians. They could make ground here but they would have to keep P-10s in stock.
Couple being late to the game with CZ's notoriously terrible ability to manufacture and keep firearms in stock I would expect the P-10 to simmer very quickly because people will buy other options they can actually find. They can't keep older models in stock like the P-01 and PCR and the Omega well that's like a unicorn. I can only imagine what it's going to be like once CZ UB starts back production on other models. The P-10 won't be able to be found at that point.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 12:00:38 PM
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Post by: earlan357 on May 11, 2017, 04:09:07 PM
Could you take a look at those slide marks on the picture I uploaded. Does that look normal for a brand new CZ?
Mine look the same and I'm not worried about it. Not much vertical play in the slide but the side to side is noticeable. No worse than my Glocks. Haven't shot mine yet either. They fire at least 5 rounds at the factory since they include a 5-shot test target. My test target shows vertical stringing FWIW. Not sure how many rounds they actually test fire in total though. My feed ramp has brass marks also. It looks to me like the internals are either cast or MIM with a black oxide finish, and black oxide isn't going to hold up to wear for more than a few cycles. Slide and barrel look fine since they are nitrided.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 04:30:40 PM
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Post by: Gretsch9 on May 11, 2017, 05:29:07 PM
My only dislike at the moment is that the magazines stick a little when ejected. . The internal release lever teeters when the mag release is pushed (top moves in and the bottom teeters out) and it seems like the bottom of the lever rubs on the mag. It's like the mag brakes on the 75 that retain the magazine when ejected, so the mag drops about 1/4 of the way out. I'll fix that as well and am not worried about it. Overall a great range day!
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 05:34:50 PM
Post by: deadduck357 on May 11, 2017, 08:55:40 PM
I have not pulled the trigger yet on this p10 I picked up yesterday. From the looks of the wear on the slide rails it looks like someone has. Also anyone who has a p10 does the slide wiggle a good amount when mated with the frame. Thanks for the help in advance.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170511/fd7dff16b4b366cb3b651b077baa180a.jpg)
Jeez, that looks like it's had a thousand rounds through it. You may have gotten one of the media demo guns.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 08:59:15 PM
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 09:03:08 PM
Post by: picklenav130 on May 11, 2017, 09:10:19 PM
I have not pulled the trigger yet on this p10 I picked up yesterday. From the looks of the wear on the slide rails it looks like someone has. Also anyone who has a p10 does the slide wiggle a good amount when mated with the frame. Thanks for the help in advance.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170511/fd7dff16b4b366cb3b651b077baa180a.jpg)I wouldn't worry about the finish wear. CZ runs every pistol they sell through a machine that cycles the action repeatedly something like 1000 times. It is a quality control process. So feel good your gun passed muster.
Matt
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 11, 2017, 09:19:21 PM
Post by: Gretsch9 on May 12, 2017, 07:18:09 AM
What grit did you use and how well did it take the edge off? Thanks for the report. How accurate was the gun, if you knew how to shoot.. Joke....
Hehe, there's some truth to that joke. I used 180 grit and a light touch. Finer grit wasn't making a difference and it's what I had laying around. It's definitely more accurate than I am, like most pistols. I shot a 15 round slow fired group at 15yrds yielding a 3.38" group shot off hand standing. This is plenty accurate for me.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 12, 2017, 08:07:45 AM
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 12, 2017, 02:35:42 PM
Let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Dereck Miller
Sales Assistant
800-955-4486 x 334
fax: 913-321-2251
CZ-USA
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 12, 2017, 02:40:49 PM
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 12, 2017, 02:48:25 PM
Let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Dereck Miller
Sales Assistant
800-955-4486 x 334
fax: 913-321-2251
CZ-USA
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 12, 2017, 03:35:50 PM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 12, 2017, 09:57:16 PM
Any chance you might know where I can get a holster for the p10 with a tlr1 hl attached?
https://www.alexandryandesign.com/
They make the best custom Kydex holsters and have a lifetime warranty option. Each holster is made to order so it takes a couple weeks to get but they're nice. Just use the holster creater to ensure you want the TLR option. They also use real pistols for every mold so it's exact and not blue guns. They have been making P-10s kydex's for a few months now.
I am a fan of the carbon fiber and ATCS AU pattern.
Post by: eastman on May 12, 2017, 10:39:30 PM
Eastman, the one you have has to be destroyed, correct? That bites.
ragingbulldaily, very nice, very nice - I can see the texturing in the photo. I'm thinking some sandpaper would be in order, yikes. :) I did hear a couple of comments that replacing the small with one of the larger backstraps made a difference in that the frame wouldn't shift as much during recoil and drive the texturing into the hand. We'll see. 8) Glad you got a smooth trigger.
I don't know what fate has in store for it. I will be returning the FDE P-10c at the next demo event and taking home my very own standard black polycoat version. It will be going back to CZ then. I told my contact that I would really like to buy the FDE version (as well) if CZ will sell it to me. It has been in the safe for almost 2 months, and the other CZs will miss it.
Post by: eastman on May 12, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
You where exactly right guys, thanks for all your help. Matt and the other nice guy gres9 sorry if I have the names wrong. Just wanted to say thanks again, and CZ verified exactly what you said. Have any of you ever used freedom ammo? I found a deal on the site, 115 grrn new, 500 rounds for 90$ free shipping on mother's day
The Freedom Munitions 115 gr is fine in CZs.
For CZs, don't buy the SuperMatch 124 or 147gr from Freedom - the bullet will contact the rifling before the cartridge is fully chambered.
Post by: armoredman on May 12, 2017, 11:01:41 PM
I don't know what fate has in store for it. I will be returning the FDE P-10c at the next demo event and taking home my very own standard black polycoat version. It will be going back to CZ then. I told my contact that I would really like to buy the FDE version (as well) if CZ will sell it to me. It has been in the safe for almost 2 months, and the other CZs will miss it.
We wouldn't want to break up a set like that, might cause depressed guns and that would mean having to play BB King at the range. 8)
Post by: eastman on May 12, 2017, 11:10:40 PM
I don't know what fate has in store for it. I will be returning the FDE P-10c at the next demo event and taking home my very own standard black polycoat version. It will be going back to CZ then. I told my contact that I would really like to buy the FDE version (as well) if CZ will sell it to me. It has been in the safe for almost 2 months, and the other CZs will miss it.
We wouldn't want to break up a set like that, might cause depressed guns and that would mean having to play BB King at the range. 8)
Maybe they'll think the FDE P-10c spent the day outside and got a dark suntan?
Post by: armoredman on May 13, 2017, 12:00:50 AM
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Post by: dmossman on May 13, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
I'm tickled pink about this gun. A good addition to the P01, PCR, 75BD, and 75 match.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 13, 2017, 07:20:43 PM
Post by: eastman on May 13, 2017, 07:25:53 PM
I have 135gr Hornady flexlock in the p10 right now, is that ok. I feel like I've bought some mutant I know nothing about, yikes......
CZ 9mm pistols have a shorter leade (shorter zone in front of the chamber before the rifling starts). This improves accuracy; however some bullet shapes will be too long at full diameter and will contact the rifling before fully chambering.
The Freedom Munitions SuperMatch (both 124gr and 147gr) fails the plunk test in all of my CZ pistols (OK, I haven't tried the Scorpion). When dropping a cartridge into the barrel, it hits the rifling before fully chambering and resists spinning. No other commercial ammo that I have tried has failed the plunk test. This includes every 115 gr FMJ, all 124gr 9mm NATO or regular 9mm FMJ, Federal HST 124gr JHP, Hornady American Gunner 124 gr +P, Winchester Ranger 147gr JHP or Remington 147gr FMJ.
Regular Freedom Munitions 115 gr FMJ will run fine in the CZs (and shoots well through them).
Post by: milq on May 13, 2017, 07:27:55 PM
I have 135gr Hornady flexlock in the p10 right now, is that ok. I feel like I've bought some mutant I know nothing about, yikes......Nah. There's a SAAMI spec in chamber length, etc. CZ typically manufactures to the shorter side of the spec, which comes into play if you reload and want the most from your reloading efforts.
I've never had any quality factory ammo fail to load and shoot in any of the CZs I've owned. I'll check chamber length on my P10 later this evening with a couple of different bullets that I reload and see how the chamber compares to my SP-01 and "SP-01 Compact".
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 13, 2017, 07:35:17 PM
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 13, 2017, 08:03:32 PM
Post by: Kenneth on May 13, 2017, 08:41:21 PM
If it does then you won't be able to eject the round most likely.
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 13, 2017, 08:50:46 PM
Post by: eastman on May 13, 2017, 10:13:55 PM
I've shot a bunch of Hornady 135 Critical Duty out of all my CZs. Passes the plunk test and shoots great. It is my carry ammo of choice.
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That is an easy test to do when evaluating a new type of ammo. SuperMatch uses a design of copper plated hollow point bullets that is not CZ friendly at the length that FM loads it. All my non-CZ pistols get to enjoy it (while it lasts).
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 13, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
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Post by: Thepro788 on May 14, 2017, 02:42:18 AM
Also had a chance to play with the vp9, man, that has a really nice factory trigger. The magazine release is a bit stiff on the p10, trigger feels great, no grit. Range report this weekend. Picked up some Hornaday critical duty 135gr flexlock as well.the vp9 has very tight tolerances and failed military arms channels drop in the water test. It was miserable and highly disappointing enough that I sold mine and picked up an fnx9.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 07:34:47 AM
Post by: O.B.B. on May 14, 2017, 09:02:53 AM
I liked these for the Glock.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/52a7318733d5c5ff874c43c3f9b964bc.jpg)Wish I could find that front sight that would fit my PCR. :-[
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 09:11:19 AM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 14, 2017, 11:32:48 AM
I liked these for the Glock.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170513/52a7318733d5c5ff874c43c3f9b964bc.jpg)Wish I could find that front sight that would fit my PCR. :-[
That front sight is essientially a TFX pro front sight which fits a PCR....
Post by: Cyanide on May 14, 2017, 01:13:17 PM
Plunk test failed on the 135 grain flexlock. Dropped it in the barrel, went plunk, turned it upside down and it didn't drop free. Then I proceeded to give it a gentle twist and I could feel it hitting the lands and grooves. Live and learn, thanks for the knowledge and help.Check SG Ammo out of Oklahoma. There you can pick up 50 round boxes of other top rated hollow points for around the same price as you would normally pay for a 20 round box at a local store. Shouldn't have any issues finding Speer Gold Dots and Federal HST, which generally don't have any issue with plunk tests.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 01:15:49 PM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 14, 2017, 03:07:17 PM
Any insight to a good custom shop for quality stippling? I don't have any Rush, just want it done right. Love the p10 but very much dislike the texture, to the point I'm not worried about shooting it until I get the texture fixed first. Looking for something like this.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170514/ca557a26e9e90055d7912f05d53fdee6.jpg)
David Bowie at Bowie Tactical Concepts does some very very good Glock stippling. You might be able to reach out to him and see if he would be willing to do a P-10. One of the best firearms instructors at the Tactical Defense Institute in Ohio. His Glock & M&P work has been featured in numerous gun magazines.
http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 03:09:19 PM
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Post by: whrussell21 on May 14, 2017, 04:48:51 PM
Decent video with a side by side P-10 & FN 509. Got to admit the 509 is peaking my interest.
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 04:59:28 PM
Post by: Cyanide on May 14, 2017, 05:26:50 PM
Thanks for your help and the lead. At this point I'm working hard on trying to find a good custom stippling shop, if you know of any I would really appreciate the lead.Where exactly are you located? A good friend of mine who happens to be a mechanic at the diesel shop I take my semi to in Central KY, happens to do some decent grip work. I can try to put you in touch with him if you would like?
Here are some photos of what he has done on his Glocks:
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Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 05:34:35 PM
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Post by: Cyanide on May 14, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
Post by: O.B.B. on May 14, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Thanks. I'll check into that.
That front sight is essientially a TFX pro front sight which fits a PCR....
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 14, 2017, 08:02:37 PM
Post by: Cyanide on May 14, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
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Allow me to apologize for the severe sidetrack from the original subject matter of the post!
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Post by: O.B.B. on May 15, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
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Did the enter button on your keyboard get stuck?? ;D
Post by: ragingbulldaily on May 15, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
Post by: Cyanide on May 15, 2017, 09:32:27 PM
Enjoy!
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I agree that it seems the hype is dying fast, and the more I read from owners, while positive, I'm not in any rush to get one. I'm very happy with my current collection, I don't see any of those three getting bumped out of their EDC rotation.
Post by: incogneato on May 15, 2017, 11:40:00 PM
A friend of mine just picked his up earlier today and sent me these pics of it next to his P-07.
Enjoy!
Great pics...thanks for sharing!
Post by: milq on May 16, 2017, 09:29:32 AM
I don't see many CZ firearms in my area at all, but the numbers are increasing. A friend that shot my SP-01 last year now owns 3 CZ pistols and has a FDE P10 on order, another has purchased a CZC P09 recently.
Earlier I'd mentioned that I would check overall length for reloads...caliper battery was dead so I have to pick up some new ones.
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Post by: Joe L on May 23, 2017, 06:17:47 AM
Couple questions for the P10C experts. Just picked up mine today and noticed there is a little "step like " point in the take up right before the wall on the trigger. Anyone else experience this? Does CZ have a lube that they recomend and aside from the slide rails, what gets lubed? CZ's owners manual leaves a little to be desired compared to others.
On mine, the trigger safety would hang slightly on the frame if I didn't have my trigger finger exactly perpindicular to the blade. After clearing the frame with the trigger safety, no significant step until just before the trigger bar dropped to release the firing pin. I think (from Earl's videos) that is the trigger bar in contact with the disconnector. Might be a little roughness at that point of contact. Mine is not bad there, but I expect some variation from pistol to pistol. I haven't taken my frame parts apart to see yet.
As far as lube, it doesn't look to me like it is any different than the hammer guns==light grease on the rails and barrel, some oil in the frame parts.
Joe
Post by: armoredman on May 23, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
Post by: HazMatt187 on June 20, 2017, 07:13:54 PM
Couple questions for the P10C experts. Just picked up mine today and noticed there is a little "step like " point in the take up right before the wall on the trigger. Anyone else experience this? Does CZ have a lube that they recomend and aside from the slide rails, what gets lubed? CZ's owners manual leaves a little to be desired compared to others.
On mine, the trigger safety would hang slightly on the frame if I didn't have my trigger finger exactly perpindicular to the blade. After clearing the frame with the trigger safety, no significant step until just before the trigger bar dropped to release the firing pin. I think (from Earl's videos) that is the trigger bar in contact with the disconnector. Might be a little roughness at that point of contact. Mine is not bad there, but I expect some variation from pistol to pistol. I haven't taken my frame parts apart to see yet.
As far as lube, it doesn't look to me like it is any different than the hammer guns==light grease on the rails and barrel, some oil in the frame parts.
Joe
I am new to online forums, so please excuse me if Im not doing this right....I just bought a P10c and after about 50 rounds through it I noticed that the trigger safety dingus gets hung up on the frame if not pressed perfectly. I see somebody else has had this issue. I like the ergos of the P10c over my G19, but if this is a normal thing for the P10 I am probably going to get rid of it. Anybody else having the issue with the trigger dingus? Is it supposed to be like this or should I send it to CZ? I tried calling them, but of course they are already closed. Thanks!
Post by: armoredman on June 20, 2017, 08:01:12 PM
Post by: niblerrn on June 22, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
I'm slowly building up my library of posts and videos on everything P10C. Love the pistol and all the people with the skill who are willing to share their knowledge. Keep it up! It is very much appreciated.
Nick
Post by: jewhj14 on July 26, 2017, 01:37:14 PM
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on July 26, 2017, 04:16:40 PM
I'm having the same trouble with trigger safety hanging if finger not positioned perfectly. At first I thought it was just me because none of the reviews I've seen have mentioned it. I'm glad to see that others have experienced this too. I like CZ and hope there is some remedy. I know it's the same old song but I have my Glocks and I've never felt this.
There is a remedy just use the search feature here or read through the threads. A couple guys have cured that little issue already. By the way I buy used glocks and melt them into trash bags. O0
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Post by: Probullydog on August 01, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
Post by: O.B.B. on August 01, 2017, 06:01:56 AM
Ummm. You may want to find a new dealer.? Long story short local shop had one left. Went in and they had just gotten 10 more in....Where is that?
Post by: eastman on August 01, 2017, 08:45:51 PM
Ummm. You may want to find a new dealer.? Long story short local shop had one left. Went in and they had just gotten 10 more in....Where is that?
Second Amendment Sports in McHenry IL had the black P-10c in stock this weekend.
Post by: O.B.B. on August 02, 2017, 06:32:43 AM
Ty sir.
Second Amendment Sports in McHenry IL had the black P-10c in stock this weekend.
Post by: Probullydog on August 04, 2017, 12:01:44 AM
Ummm. You may want to find a new dealer.? Long story short local shop had one left. Went in and they had just gotten 10 more in....Where is that?
Pistol Parlour in Mesa AZ
Post by: cntrydawwwg on August 04, 2017, 12:41:08 AM