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Offline SlvrDragon50

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #210 on: May 10, 2017, 12:38:37 PM »
I had a chance to go shoot my P 10 for the first time yesterday . I am not a gun reviewer nor do i play one on TV so this is just my opinion .
I find the gun to be very accurate and feels real good my hand . I shot it with the small back strap that came on the gun and i found for me the
trigger reach to be too close , will be switching to medium one to give it a try. For the first 100 rounds the backstrap felt fine but after the next 100 rounds
it start to rip into my hand a little. The texture on the front and sides of the grip are fine but the backstrap is very aggressive if you shoot a lot at one time.
I will hit the backstrap with a little sandpaper  and it should be fine. The trigger is one of the best i have felt in a striker fired pistol . I had a chance to compare
it to a APX side by side and both triggers are very close . I like the P 10 better . the APX has what i call the Glock boing , you pull the trigger the firing pin releases
the spring goes boing and the gun wiggles to the right a hair. Not as bad as a glock but it's still there. The reset on the P 10 is very short , easy double taps without
even thinking about it . These are just my opinions and your mileage might vary.

I didn't notice that with the APX I shot, but I've never shot Glocks other than some worn out rental Glocks. The APX trigger was incredible and felt really nice. If hte P10C is better it'll be hard to not buy one.

Offline ZeeC

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #211 on: May 10, 2017, 02:35:47 PM »
Not sure how you can be a Glock killer if LGS are only getting two of these at a time in stock.   

I swear this is as bad as trying to get the PlayStation 2 at christmas so many moons ago. (Yes I know I am dating myself).


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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #212 on: May 10, 2017, 02:53:03 PM »
Yes, I do not like the plastic CZ, now I hate the thought of a striker fire CZ, but really ....why would CZ deviate from a design that they have been using for years?  The inside the rail ..(gives better accuracy) has been a trademark selling point of theirs, now it makes no difference as to in or outside the rail?  Go from a unique design that is widely cloned and increasing in popularity to one that resembles 100s of other firearms.  ?????

Simple..it's easier to mold the frame that way...The molds to make the frames are expensive (roughly $50k +,each) So, they're going to use a already proven method for molding in the frame rails as this saves time/ money. From what I've seen so far, the P-10 is no slouch in the accuracy dept. The  P-10 is not giving up anything accuracy wise because of the frame rail arrangement. Really, it's a non- issue.

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Offline Psyop96

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« Reply #213 on: May 10, 2017, 04:40:14 PM »
CZUB is a business in a global market. The trend in their primary markets is towards polymer and striker fired so they have to go that route to compete and be a viable concern. If they can build a better mouse trap along those lines, kudos to them. So long as they maintain the "legacy" part of the business, we should be happy.

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #214 on: May 10, 2017, 04:45:40 PM »
Made it to the lgs today, had a chance to go hands on with the FN 509 and the new HK SK. Both very nice in the hand and great triggers as well. Then they brought out my new addition.

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« Reply #215 on: May 10, 2017, 05:11:18 PM »
Also had a chance to play with the vp9, man, that has a really nice factory trigger. The magazine release is a bit stiff on the p10, trigger feels great, no grit. Range report this weekend. Picked up some Hornaday critical duty 135gr flexlock as well.

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« Reply #216 on: May 10, 2017, 08:24:27 PM »
Finally...... And I got to wrap hands around the new 509 and the hk sk also, both very nice. I like everything about the p10,I agree on the magazine release being hard, but with time it should smooth out. I don't think there back strap is that bad, it's agresive but so was my wife..... I'll have more after I get a chance to shoot it.

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« Reply #217 on: May 10, 2017, 08:58:00 PM »
Sorry, didn't mean to double post and rub it in.. Lol

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #218 on: May 10, 2017, 09:29:25 PM »
Sorry, didn't mean to double post and rub it in.. Lol

Admit it - you really did mean to.   O0

I've had a P-10c in my possession for the last 6 weeks, and I still have no idea when I'll have one in hand that I get to keep.
I don't look like my avatar!

Offline armoredman

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #219 on: May 11, 2017, 03:52:27 AM »
Eastman, the one you have has to be destroyed, correct? That bites.
ragingbulldaily, very nice, very nice - I can see the texturing in the photo. I'm thinking some sandpaper would be in order, yikes. :) I did hear a couple of comments that replacing the small with one of the larger backstraps made a difference in that the frame wouldn't shift as much during recoil and drive the texturing into the hand. We'll see.  8) Glad you got a smooth trigger.

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #220 on: May 11, 2017, 07:47:58 AM »
Sorry, didn't mean to double post and rub it in.. Lol

Admit it - you really did mean to.   O0

I've had a P-10c in my possession for the last 6 weeks, and I still have no idea when I'll have one in hand that I get to keep.
I missed the rest of the story this comment refers to.
I'll think of something witty to put here sooner or later.



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Offline ragingbulldaily

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #221 on: May 11, 2017, 09:47:05 AM »
I have not pulled the trigger yet on this p10 I picked up yesterday. From the looks of the wear on the slide rails it looks like someone has. Also anyone who has a p10 does the slide wiggle a good amount when mated with the frame. Thanks for the help in advance.

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« Reply #222 on: May 11, 2017, 09:56:24 AM »
Day 2 ocd inspection!!

Offline ragingbulldaily

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« Reply #223 on: May 11, 2017, 09:58:16 AM »
That just looks like a lot of slide wear for a brand new gun. But I'm new to CZ so I don't know.

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Re: P-10Cs should be coming
« Reply #224 on: May 11, 2017, 10:34:14 AM »
CZUB is a business in a global market. The trend in their primary markets is towards polymer and striker fired so they have to go that route to compete and be a viable concern. If they can build a better mouse trap along those lines, kudos to them. So long as they maintain the "legacy" part of the business, we should be happy.

Not accurate at all. Polymore/striker fired have been trending LONG LONG before this year and CZ has competed and prospered just fine. Have you tried to find their P-01, P-01 Omega, Shadow 2s, etc. they can't keep them in stock unless it's on gunbroker. So to say they needed to get in this market "now" is completely wrong. This would have been a viable move 10+ years ago. Now they're in an overcrowded field and are going to struggle to make any headway vs Glock, M&P, and Sig especially in the military and law enforcement market. They don't have the abilty to be giving away tons of firearms to departments like other did/do. Now having to compete with the VP9, 509, Glock, P320, M&P, etc for civilians. They could make ground here but they would have to keep P-10s in stock.

Couple being late to the game with CZ's notoriously terrible ability to manufacture and keep firearms in stock I would expect the P-10 to simmer very quickly because people will buy other options they can actually find. They can't keep older models in stock like the P-01 and PCR and the Omega well that's like a unicorn. I can only imagine what it's going to be like once CZ UB starts back production on other models. The P-10 won't be able to be found at that point.
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