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Title: Steel frame compact question
Post by: glock19er on November 12, 2019, 08:28:34 AM
Is the weight difference really noticeable on the steel frame compact compared to the alloy frame compact?
I have a chance to pick a compact steel frame for a great price but I don't really want a super heavy gun.
Thanks

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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: ejb1975 on November 12, 2019, 08:30:16 AM
A steel frame compact is hefty, the the ones with a rail actually weigh more than a full size 75b


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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Double Tap on November 12, 2019, 08:43:18 AM
Is the weight difference really noticeable on the steel frame compact compared to the alloy frame compact?
I have a chance to pick a compact steel frame for a great price but I don't really want a super heavy gun.
Thanks

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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: jurek on November 12, 2019, 09:18:14 AM
I would say : YES
However it depends, how you feel gun in your hand, how you grip the gun.
Weight difference between alu and steel frame is about 5oz - 6 oz. Is it much?
For me it was. I've shot polymer PPQ (22 oz.) and decided to switch it for heavier pistol. Steel CZ75 Compact's weight was too much for me (about 33 oz.).
My choice now is alu CZ P-01 (about 28 oz.) and that's the weight I love.

So from my perspective the weight difference is really noticeable.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Sk2088 on November 12, 2019, 12:22:28 PM
My CZ75 Compact Steel 9mm (99021) with mag empty weighs 38.12oz
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: jurek on November 12, 2019, 12:36:23 PM
My measurements were done WITHOUT magazine and WITH stock polymer guide rods.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: glock19er on November 12, 2019, 04:12:03 PM
I bought it even though it's just a tad heavier that my PCR and P01. Also bought a new P-07 OD.
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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Jiva on November 12, 2019, 05:13:42 PM
Sweet! You are going really enjoy those :D

I love all of my CZ’s but carry my steel compact most since it’s what I seem to shoot best.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: MadDuner on November 12, 2019, 05:16:06 PM
I don’t really notice the weight difference between my steel P-01 and my P-07 when carrying - or shooting.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Tyerone on November 12, 2019, 06:29:18 PM
PERFECTION, glock19er! 8)
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Hillbilly357 on November 12, 2019, 07:34:33 PM
The steel frame is my favorite to shoot. I like the weight.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: MadDuner on November 12, 2019, 07:58:51 PM
Way to go Glock19er!
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: glock19er on November 16, 2019, 01:38:27 PM
PERFECTION, glock19er! 8)
I see what you did there Tyerone! Lol
I sold all my Glocks last year and haven't missed them one bit.
Need to change my user name fo sho


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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: eastman on November 16, 2019, 08:39:01 PM
PERFECTION, glock19er! 8)
I see what you did there Tyerone! Lol
I sold all my Glocks last year and haven't missed them one bit.
Need to change my user name fo sho


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maybe exglock19er?   O0
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: M1A4ME on November 17, 2019, 07:46:02 AM
I don’t really notice the weight difference between my steel P-01 and my P-07 when carrying - or shooting.

Same here.  I can't tell what's on my hip till I pull it out of the holster.  Then what I notice is the feel of the grooves in the front/rear of the frame on the P01.  It's not the weight.

The only time I notice the weight is when I'm cleaning them and I field strip the P01.  When I pick the frame up to clean it I realize it's "light" and think, yeah, P01, aluminum, and then go on with the cleaning.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Walt Sherrill on November 26, 2019, 10:20:30 PM
I think the steel-framed Compact is noticeably heavier than the alloy-framed models.  After carrying one for a while, I realized that it wasn't that much smaller or lighter than a full-size model.

I continue wonder why CZ doesn't offer an full-size alloy-framed 75B -- I think that might be the best of both designs for man shooters, and would certainly be strong competition for the SIG P-series guns, most of which have alloy frames.   An alloy-framed semi-compact (full-size frame and compact slide would be an interesting option, too.   Some might prefer a shorter grip and a longer slide, so that would be a different type of semi-compact, but I haven't seen or heard of one of THOSE variants.

CZ has slipped out a couple semi-compacts in steel, and a forum member   had one some years ago; he may still have it.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: twowheels on November 26, 2019, 11:55:52 PM
The steel frame compact feels a lot heavier to me.  I've got two, one railed and one non railed.  They both are excellent shooters, but the p 01 omega is a lot easier to carry.  And the p 10c is even easier to carry than the omega.

 Looks like you bought a steel.  Time to start looking for an alloy frame so you can decide for yourself which you prefer.   
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: MadDuner on November 27, 2019, 05:37:23 AM
I really do not notice the weight difference between a steel framed P-01 and the polymer framed P-07 when carrying concealed. 
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Double Tap on November 27, 2019, 07:11:24 AM
I really do not notice the weight difference between a steel framed P-01 and the polymer framed P-07 when carrying concealed.
A P-01 has an alloy frame and steel slide

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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: M1A4ME on November 27, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
I really do not notice the weight difference between a steel framed P-01 and the polymer framed P-07 when carrying concealed.

Same here.  I usually only notice the difference in weight when they are field stripped and I pick the frame up.  Then it hits me how light the aluminum frame feels.

Some CZ75 Compacts look like P01's but have steel frames.

(https://i.imgur.com/KQZROLfl.jpg)

After that production run CZ turned around and shipped out a bunch of compacts labeled P01 on the slide but still used that steel/railed P01 looking frame.

CZ - they do different things and mix it up much more than other gun companies.
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: jurek on November 27, 2019, 10:24:17 AM
Same here.  I usually only notice the difference in weight when they are field stripped and I pick the frame up.  Then it hits me how light the aluminum frame feels.
Some CZ75 Compacts look like P01's but have steel frames.
After that production run CZ turned around and shipped out a bunch of compacts labeled P01 on the slide but still used that steel/railed P01 looking frame.
CZ - they do different things and mix it up much more than other gun companies.

M1A4ME,
What the slide says on the side? (hard to see it on picture)
Is it  CZ75-Compact?  ??? :o
Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: MadDuner on November 27, 2019, 04:25:25 PM
I really do not notice the weight difference between a steel framed P-01 and the polymer framed P-07 when carrying concealed.
A P-01 has an alloy frame and steel slide

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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: Double Tap on November 27, 2019, 04:35:06 PM
I really do not notice the weight difference between a steel framed P-01 and the polymer framed P-07 when carrying concealed.
A P-01 has an alloy frame and steel slide

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Mine is all steel.
Made in Czech Republic.
Manual safety.
Mine is also a Czech made in 2003, no manual safety, a decocker and alloy frame.

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Title: Re: Steel frame compact question
Post by: MadDuner on November 27, 2019, 04:52:09 PM
I really do not notice the weight difference between a steel framed P-01 and the polymer framed P-07 when carrying concealed.
A P-01 has an alloy frame and steel slide

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Mine is all steel.
Made in Czech Republic.
Manual safety.
Mine is also a Czech made in 2003, no manual safety, a decocker and alloy frame.

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