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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: Yankchef on March 25, 2020, 05:30:36 AM
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I'm wondering if anyone knows which plate fits the new holosun optics on the cz p10 series. I'm specifically wondering about the new 407k/507k. In the cz shop there is a different plate for the deltapoint pro and the shield rms. I also saw that the rmsc footprint can be used in some cases by removing lugs. Does anyone know what the deal is here?
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I thought the 407/507k's were supposed to have the same footprint as the shield rms does?
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Which also should be the same footprint as the deltapoint pro which is why I'm confused why there are 2 different plates. Then when I watched another video the holosun rep said some rmsc plates needed modifications
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Here is a pretty comprehensive write up on optics and compatability.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/optics-info.com/footprints-on-red-dot-sights/amp/
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Here is a pretty comprehensive write up on optics and compatability.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/optics-info.com/footprints-on-red-dot-sights/amp/
That lists the rms and dpp under the same footprint which is what I thought. Still not understanding why cz is offering a separate deltapoint pro and rms plate
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The only thing I can figure is there is a Czech made plate and a usa made plate. The Czech one here:
https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/1091141006_Czub-Optic-Ready-Plate-6-Shield
Has 4 lug holes built into it and the USA made one here: https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/19231_Cz-Usa-P10-Optic-Plate-Adapter-2-Dpp-Shield
Only has 2 lug holes built in
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Either way I just bought a 407k lol. Optics planet has it in sale for 188 right now, I'll work out the plate or put it on my pps rmsc
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Either way I just bought a 407k lol. Optics planet has it in sale for 188 right now, I'll work out the plate or put it on my pps rmsc
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That must have been a short sale, now it looks like it's $220. :(
https://www.opticsplanet.com/holosun-hs407k-red-dot-sight.html
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They have a code for 14% off optics
"OBRD"
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"Estimated to ship within 7-16 days" in Optics Planet time is 2-3 months.
Seriously, stuff is delayed coming out of China due to COVID19 so I wouldn't expect it soon.
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[emoji17] Yea so I missed that part
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They have a code for 14% off optics
"OBRD"
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Thanks. I think.
That was nuff info to motivate me to buy my way into the que for a 507k.
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Fabricated Arms who is milling my standard slide P365 for a 407K is awaiting a confirmation from China of the EXACT specs. Apparently, the posts holes on the 407K & 507K are not as deep so the posts on the mounts will have to be shorter. Or something like that. Best suggestion, wait until you have the new micro Holosun in hand and mill to fit.
I've had a 407K on order with Optics Planet for two months. Ordered the very first day they posted availability just after intro at Shot Show. If you read the fine print, there's now a new disclaimer due to COVID it could be a couple more months, at least. But I think it will be worth the wait.
Thanks for the discount code though. I'm going to contact CS and see if they'll apply to my backorder.
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I have a P10S Optic Ready and first I bought a CZ adapter plate #2 with iron sights. This was for the Shield RMS because the one for a Holosun was back ordered and I wanted iron sights (suppressor height) Shield and Holosun plates are not compatible. RMR (Trijicon) and Holosun are.
Next, after reading a lot of views and opinions, I ordered an adapter plate from 401 Manufacturing via eBay. It works great. It is light weight, fits my cut precisely and comes with all screws you need. Never looked back. By the way, I have a Holosun 507 Green Dot with three options for the dot and easily sighted because a 32MOA dot in circle option gives you good size dot at 25 yards. You can the switch to 2MOA dot.
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I have a P10S Optic Ready and first I bought a CZ adapter plate #2 with iron sights. This was for the Shield RMS because the one for a Holosun was back ordered and I wanted iron sights (suppressor height) Shield and Holosun plates are not compatible. RMR (Trijicon) and Holosun are.
Next, after reading a lot of views and opinions, I ordered an adapter plate from 401 Manufacturing via eBay. It works great. It is light weight, fits my cut precisely and comes with all screws you need. Never looked back. By the way, I have a Holosun 507 Green Dot with three options for the dot and easily sighted because a 32MOA dot in circle option gives you good size dot at 25 yards. You can the switch to 2MOA dot.
Hang onto that #2 mount plate!
The mount pattern for the new 407K & 507K micro RDS is different than the larger Holosun 507 models! The smaller 407K & 507K will be similar to Shield RMS, JPoint, SIG Romeo ZERO. With a slight modification of the lug heights.
See this video from interview with Holosun execs at Shot Show explaining. At 3:30 into the video it explains new mount pattern.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8GD3P48tu8
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Ah a little annoying but OK, maybe Walther will offer this service themselves for the pps. But from what it sounds like I should not buy a plate now because it won't work with the k models
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Does anyone have a comparison of the czub plates compared to the American ones? The czub ones look nicer but I can't really find any info comparing them, cost is 29.99 vs 38.99
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Ah a little annoying but OK, maybe Walther will offer this service themselves for the pps. But from what it sounds like I should not buy a plate now because it won't work with the k models
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From what the Holosun interview video explains, the Shield RMS plate pattern should work fine for the new K models, it's just something about the studs/lugs height that's different and should be easily modified.
"Patience is a virtue" "All good things come to those who wait." I guess we'll see. ::)
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"Estimated to ship within 7-16 days" in Optics Planet time is 2-3 months.
Seriously, stuff is delayed coming out of China due to COVID19 so I wouldn't expect it soon.
And right you were lol. My date has been pushed back more times than I can remember and just got pushed back again to 7/29
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"Estimated to ship within 7-16 days" in Optics Planet time is 2-3 months.
Seriously, stuff is delayed coming out of China due to COVID19 so I wouldn't expect it soon.
And right you were lol. My date has been pushed back more times than I can remember and just got pushed back again to 7/29
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Yeah, Mine too. Now 7/29 for the 9th time.
OP is notorious for bumping promised shipment date out every 2 weeks, instead of just leveling with you that they don't know.
The more expensive 507K's are starting to ship and some actually showing in stock; and other sites are now quoting the 407K's mid-late August, so I hope we'll see these before Christmas!! ::)
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One might want to pause and ask, "Why am I buying crap from China ?"
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One might want to pause and ask, "Why am I buying crap from China ?"
Fair Question Wobbly.
But before you call it "crap" you might want to take a look at Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics recent review of the HS 507K:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN-kD4BRh1A
The options for micro-size Red Dots that will mount onto our CZ Compacts are very limited. Small enough to mill between the existing irons for BUIS.
When it comes to weaponry to defend my family, I want the best I can get, no matter what country it comes from. JMO
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P.S.
I've had my SIG P365 milled to accept the HS 407K/507K. Just wait'in patiently to get it shipped.
*Notice the absence of rear bosses, and the shorter front ones. Pattern specs came directly from HS.
If all goes as planned, I'll get another one to replace the Shield RMS (expensive plastic POS) that's currently on my P-01. Should fit right in after filing down the bosses. Fingers crossed. Sits low enough to use the stock sights as lower 1/3 BUIS.
(https://i.imgur.com/KxhJlyK.jpg?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/chfH8te.jpg?4)
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I didn’t read to far into this thread but this is what I know. The 407/507k models follow the shield rmsc footprint. Shield also makes an rms which is a larger optic meant for larger slides. The rmsc is meant for single stacks as well as the 407/507k. If a plate says shield rms and not rmsc it will not allow you to mount a 407/507k
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I didn’t read to far into this thread but this is what I know. The 407/507k models follow the shield rmsc footprint. Shield also makes an rms which is a larger optic meant for larger slides. The rmsc is meant for single stacks as well as the 407/507k. If a plate says shield rms and not rmsc it will not allow you to mount a 407/507k
Wellll u should have, u really should have read farther in
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I didn’t read to far into this thread but this is what I know. The 407/507k models follow the shield rmsc footprint. Shield also makes an rms which is a larger optic meant for larger slides. The rmsc is meant for single stacks as well as the 407/507k. If a plate says shield rms and not rmsc it will not allow you to mount a 407/507k
Not sure where you got your info; but you might want to re-read my post #22 just above yours. ::)
The RMS and RMSc have the same bolt mount pattern; the RMS is slightly wider with side battery tray, the RMSc is just a bit narrower that fits micro pistol slides better, but battery tray gets deleted.
Meanwhile....as shown in post #22, the Holosun 'K' series Red Dots should fit the same footprint/bolt pattern but the rear lugs are eliminated and the front lugs are shorter. However, you do get a side battery tray with the HS 'K' series and the controls are vastly superior.
-Vinny
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I didn’t read to far into this thread but this is what I know. The 407/507k models follow the shield rmsc footprint. Shield also makes an rms which is a larger optic meant for larger slides. The rmsc is meant for single stacks as well as the 407/507k. If a plate says shield rms and not rmsc it will not allow you to mount a 407/507k
Not sure where you got your info; but you might want to re-read my post #22 just above yours. ::)
The RMS and RMSc have the same bolt mount pattern; the RMS is slightly wider with side battery tray, the RMSc is just a bit narrower that fits micro pistol slides better, but battery tray gets deleted.
Meanwhile....as shown in post #22, the Holosun 'K' series Red Dots should fit the same footprint/bolt pattern but the rear lugs are eliminated and the front lugs are shorter. However, you do get a side battery tray with the HS 'K' series and the controls are vastly superior.
-Vinny
And to follow up on that I got a "firedot" which is a rebrand cz version of the regular shield rms and it does not fit on my pps rmsc but does fit my cz dpp optic plate
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