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GENERAL => Right to Keep and Bear Arms => Topic started by: jon619 on April 23, 2020, 10:04:52 PM
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Judge Roger Benitez just ruled to block California’s ammunition background check program today. That's the same judge that gave us Freedom Week last year. That should get rid of the $1 background check and bring back purchases out of state. Good news for once. I don't live in California anymore, but keep track of what's going on. They are the front line and what happens there spreads.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article242248616.html (https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article242248616.html)
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Hopefully Judge Benitez doesn't flip like he did on magazines.
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Good things can happen in California.
Link to the ruling.
https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-23-Order-Granting-MPI.pdf
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Long live Judge Benitez!
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The window has been closed again for now. As of April 24th 9:46 PM California residents, once again, are prohibited from ordering ammo online and having it delivered to their home. Instead, per Prop 63, it has to go to a FFL and they have to undergo a background check despite Judge Benitez's ruling.
The California AG was granted an emergency motion for stay pending further court order.
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I hope the state got flooded with trucks of ammunition.
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I hope the state got flooded with trucks of ammunition.
From what i have been seeing online, tens of millions of rounds. I just received my order today.
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I hope the state got flooded with trucks of ammunition.
From what i have been seeing online, tens of millions of rounds. I just received my order today.
Looks like the appeals court reinstated the law. Glad you got your ammo though. I hear it's going to be a new beach accessory out there.
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I feel bad for pro 2a Americans that have to live in that communist state. Wishing you all the best.
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I feel bad for pro 2a Americans that have to live in that communist state. Wishing you all the best.
Its not as bad as you think. Its much worst!
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I'm still inside the normal 10-day window on my DROS for the first firearm I've purchased as a CA resident. From what I understand the CA DOJ gets up to 30 days for background checks, which in the current situation could easily push me past the normal 10 days. And I can't purchase ammo, assuming it's available, until I'm on the list as having purchased a firearm in CA. :o
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Your 10 days window will not extend. And automatically shortens you ammo purchases too. You can buy ammo when picking up your gun.
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Your 10 days window will not extend. And automatically shortens you ammo purchases too. You can buy ammo when picking up your gun.
Good to know. I was reading the notice on the subject of how COVID-19 is impacting the background check process on the CA Bureau of Firearms page and maybe misunderstood.
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms (https://oag.ca.gov/firearms)
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If dealer doesn't receive decline on the screening (gun buy) within 10 days - its automatic approval. That applied also for ammo purchase with short check($1).
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I guess I missed my chance for an out of state bulk buy.
New news to me but I see CA AB 3071, which builds on AB 711 (no lead for hunting), proposes to prohibit the use of ammunition that is not certified lead free at indoor/outdoor ranges.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB3071 (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB3071)
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I guess I missed my chance for an out of state bulk buy.
New news to me but I see CA AB 3071, which builds on AB 711 (no lead for hunting), proposes to prohibit the use of ammunition that is not certified lead free at indoor/outdoor ranges.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB3071 (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB3071)
This basically buries the idea of reloading. You can't make your own ammo cause you won't be able to license it (even if you use lead-free components).
Very bad! Not everyone can afford private range.
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Wait till you see the proposed changes coming up on the micro-stamping laws. Have to read it for yourself all the way through to believe it.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2847
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Wait till you see the proposed changes coming up on the micro-stamping laws. Have to read it for yourself all the way through to believe it.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2847
Well, microstamping idea is not achievable cause there's no technology for this yet. So, it's just wet fantasies which are not possible to implement.
But licensing ammo is unfortunatelly feasible and will impact everybody even those who reload.
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Unfortunately micro-stamping is and has been part of CA's DOJ legal requirements for handguns. Fantasy or not.
Lead free ammo is just one more restriction we are facing in CA and I have little doubt it will be passed in Sacramento.
There are so many rules laws and regulations, I need a checklist just to go shooting.
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I had considered moving to CA several times. Each time there was another piece of legislation I became aware of which would change my mind. Nonetheless, I kept considering it. Now the only thing I consider when CA is involved is what flight and hotel for my limited stay. Beautiful state, but oppressive legislation in some cases.
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https://thedonald.win/p/GIc0rWEy/its-badass-when-people-stand-in-/c/
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Unfortunately micro-stamping is and has been part of CA's DOJ legal requirements for handguns. Fantasy or not.
Lead free ammo is just one more restriction we are facing in CA and I have little doubt it will be passed in Sacramento.
There are so many rules laws and regulations, I need a checklist just to go shooting.
Gee, I’m trying to think of a good word to describe the status of your 2A rights.... oh how’s about “infringed”? That sounds about right to me
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Infringed...for sure. They even try to pass rules through budget bills along with closing more prisons. Currently they have released 10,000 inmates and are adding another 8,000 over the next few months.
I can't even begin to express how out of line things are in CA. We have a lot of good people in this state that deserve better.
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I would NEVER recommend to anyone to move to Commie-Socialist-loving CA, ever!
Go live elsewhere it is a failed state lost to illegal aliens, homeless, criminals, Radicals, and politicians that disregards all of your legal rights.