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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZF KADET KLUB => Topic started by: bobjd on September 29, 2020, 07:04:52 PM
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I am considering purchasing a Kadet II 22 LR conversion kit for a CZ. I have a Shadow 2 and a CZ-75 P-01 Steel Compact. What should I be considering in my search? I am somewhat familiar with conversion kits as I have one for a Glock and an older Taurus 92, but have little knowledge of the CZ conversions.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Regards, Bob
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There is a specific Kadet conversion for the shadow 2 and CZ75 P01.
Shadow 2 Kadet. It’ll have the “Shadow 2 on the slide.
https://czcustom.com/cz-shadow-2-kadet-kit-22-lr.html
75, 85, SP-01, 75 Compact, P-01, P-06, and PCR. It’ll have Cz75 Kadet on the slide.
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-kadet-adapter-ii-22-lr-adj-sights-10-rd-mags-will-fit-omega-system/
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The KADET II kit will fit both guns... https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-kadet-adapter-ii-22-lr-adj-sights-10-rd-mags-will-fit-omega-system/
The P-01 will require a different slide stop, and the mags will stick out from the grip. You can get mag bases to clean up the look, but you'd need different mags for the Shadow.
The Shadow 2 will likely be sprung too soft for reliable ignition of most 22 ammo. You can use a heavier hammer spring to correct that, if you don't mind sacrificing the Shadow DA trigger feel, or swapping springs back and forth.
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There's a specific Kadet adapter for SP-01. I think it's newer than Kadet II. https://grabagun.com/cz-sp-01-kadet-adapter-22lr-10rd.html
I use it on my P-01 and it runs like a dream. The longer slide works fine and the mags stick out, but they work great. They're also polymer with loading tabs on the side to make them easy to load and less expensive. They work fine as is, but you can also put X-grip spacers on them. I use them to convert Glock 19 mags for Glock 26. They don't make them for CZ as far as I know, but the X-grips for the Beretta 92C fit almost perfectly. I've attached some pics. If I can figure out how to load images of them, I will.
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Here are the pics of the Kadet SP-01 on my P-01. Hopefully it works and they're not huge.
(https://i.imgur.com/jtkltOV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9908PWt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eklDjRp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1EFok4J.jpg)
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The KADET II kit will fit both guns... https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-kadet-adapter-ii-22-lr-adj-sights-10-rd-mags-will-fit-omega-system/
The P-01 will require a different slide stop, and the mags will stick out from the grip. You can get mag bases to clean up the look, but you'd need different mags for the Shadow.
The Shadow 2 will likely be sprung too soft for reliable ignition of most 22 ammo. You can use a heavier hammer spring to correct that, if you don't mind sacrificing the Shadow DA trigger feel, or swapping springs back and forth.
My shadow 2 comes with a 20# main spring. Unless the main spring has been replaced with either 13 or 11.5 or 11# main springs, the stock main spring is more than enough to ignite .22 ammo reliably.
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There is a specific Kadet conversion for the shadow 2 and CZ75 P01.
Shadow 2 Kadet. It’ll have the “Shadow 2 on the slide.
https://czcustom.com/cz-shadow-2-kadet-kit-22-lr.html
75, 85, SP-01, 75 Compact, P-01, P-06, and PCR. It’ll have Cz75 Kadet on the slide.
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-kadet-adapter-ii-22-lr-adj-sights-10-rd-mags-will-fit-omega-system/
Thanks for the info.
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The KADET II kit will fit both guns... https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-kadet-adapter-ii-22-lr-adj-sights-10-rd-mags-will-fit-omega-system/
The P-01 will require a different slide stop, and the mags will stick out from the grip. You can get mag bases to clean up the look, but you'd need different mags for the Shadow.
The Shadow 2 will likely be sprung too soft for reliable ignition of most 22 ammo. You can use a heavier hammer spring to correct that, if you don't mind sacrificing the Shadow DA trigger feel, or swapping springs back and forth.
Thanks for the reply. I don't mind mags sticking out a bit.
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There's a specific Kadet adapter for SP-01. I think it's newer than Kadet II. https://grabagun.com/cz-sp-01-kadet-adapter-22lr-10rd.html
I use it on my P-01 and it runs like a dream. The longer slide works fine and the mags stick out, but they work great. They're also polymer with loading tabs on the side to make them easy to load and less expensive. They work fine as is, but you can also put X-grip spacers on them. I use them to convert Glock 19 mags for Glock 26. They don't make them for CZ as far as I know, but the X-grips for the Beretta 92C fit almost perfectly. I've attached some pics. If I can figure out how to load images of them, I will.
I appreciate the info. I also use the X-grips on my G26 and they work great.
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The KADET II kit will fit both guns... https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-kadet-adapter-ii-22-lr-adj-sights-10-rd-mags-will-fit-omega-system/
The P-01 will require a different slide stop, and the mags will stick out from the grip. You can get mag bases to clean up the look, but you'd need different mags for the Shadow.
The Shadow 2 will likely be sprung too soft for reliable ignition of most 22 ammo. You can use a heavier hammer spring to correct that, if you don't mind sacrificing the Shadow DA trigger feel, or swapping springs back and forth.
My shadow 2 comes with a 20# main spring. Unless the main spring has been replaced with either 13 or 11.5 or 11# main springs, the stock main spring is more than enough to ignite .22 ammo reliably.
For some reason I thought the Shadow 2 was lightly sprung, 20# will do it just fine.
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Just got a "back in stock" email from CZ. I finally got a used one the other day so I don't need one any more.
It is the new model it looks like with the long frame rails https://czcustom.com/cz-75-kadet-adapter-2-cal-22-lr-black-polycoat-91610.html
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There's a specific Kadet adapter for SP-01. I think it's newer than Kadet II
YES, there is an SP-01 KADET
But the newest design of the "Slide" for the CZ75 KADET 2, the one with the larger forward profile, i.i the SP-01 or the B-SA
will fill and run nicely on the SP-01
And .... just guessing here .... given the design of each Kits, their operation, Sight attachment and "lock-up" ....
I'd bet, the new CZ75 KADET 2 will outshoot and outlast the SP-01 specific Kit
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That's what I was holding out for, the Kadet 2/ Didn't want a gun specific and one that the whole slide moved, except the front sight. You have 2 things working there moving, with every shot it would seem. Front sight and barrel and rear sight all independent of each other just doesn't seem like it would be as accurate.
I have shot the one I got twice now. Very accurate! Ran 70 rounds through it with 6 different loads before any issues. Started getting light strikes. Strange.
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That's what I was holding out for, the Kadet 2/ Didn't want a gun specific and one that the whole slide moved, except the front sight. You have 2 things working there moving, with every shot it would seem. Front sight and barrel and rear sight all independent of each other just doesn't seem like it would be as accurate.
I have shot the one I got twice now. Very accurate! Ran 70 rounds through it with 6 different loads before any issues. Started getting light strikes. Strange.
Yeah, you gotta love the design of the 75 KADET
Much like the Mk Series, 41, Woodsman or Buckmark;
Front and Rear Sights are fixed to the Barrel
As to your lite strikes after "70 rounds through it" ....
The .22lr is a filthy animal, so depending on the Ammo, the Chamber will gunk-up pretty fast
Keep and run a Bore-Snak thru it, and bruch the gunk from the breech, after 50 or so Rounds .... see if that does any good
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As of this morning, I see that OptiPlanet has several of the CZ75 KADET 2s in stock
https://www.opticsplanet.com/cz-usa-cz75-cz85-22lr-4-7-inch-barrell-kadet-adapter-ii-conversion-kit.html
Can't say which Slide profile they have
The Pic in the ad is the usual stock pic from years ago
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Saw today the OpsPlanet sold-out their stock of 75 KADETS
If you're one of the lucky ones who got to ordered one of them, please let us know which Slide Profile you got
Then we will get a better handle on what CZ is shipping to their Dealers nowadays
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I had email alerts from several places. 3 of them were in stock today. Glad I got a better deal earlier on a used one!
Cornerstone Arms still shows in stock right now. https://store.cornerstonearms.com/products/accessories-cz-01610-806703016108-2530
and Tombstone Tactical https://www.tombstonetactical.com/cz-01610-75-85-kadet-22lr-cnversn-kit
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Bud's gun shop said they had 74 in an email this morning. https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=31192&utm_source=auto&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=in_stock
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Thanks for the info Mom :)
I may have to make a couple phone calls tomorrow ;)
Still looking for the 75 KADET, with the B-SA Slide profile ! 8)
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Thanks for the info Mom :)
I may have to make a couple phone calls tomorrow ;)
Still looking for the 75 KADET, with the B-SA Slide profile ! 8)
Don't go by the pictures they use. Everybody uses the old stock pictures from what I see. I bought a used one that was originally purchased at Bud's in 2018 and it has the full length rails on the front, not the short tab shown in all the stock photos.
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Don't go by the pictures they use. Everybody uses the old stock pictures from what I see. I bought a used one that was originally purchased at Bud's in 2018 and it has the full length rails on the front, not the short tab shown in all the stock photos.
Yeah, that's what I'm guessing, but knowing my luck .... it'll be the Short Rail Slide
I know it sounds dumb, but I really like the looks of the "Full Rail" Slide over the old style
Seems that the only place using a Pic of the new Slide profile, is CZCustom