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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => DAN WESSON FIREARMS => Topic started by: jurek on February 05, 2021, 11:34:34 PM
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Why? The answer is simple. Because there is no DWX.. and who knows when it's gonna be available. My patience died last week...
I love CZs, especially the grip, ambi controls.. but there was always something missing for me.. the real touch of 1911. When I saw DWX for a first time (I think it was end of 2019) I knew the same moment that it was my "perfect" pistol, something I was waiting for a long time... 1911 with full ambi controls and even better grip and no grip safety :-*
Then 2020 came... then 2021 came... then my decision came.... 8)
I wanted 1911 style with really tight barrel lockup, something I will really enjoy shooting for a longer distance (ok - longer distance in my case is 45 - 75 feet.... I am a defensive shooter).
If I couldn't have DWX - 1911 style but not really 1911 pistol... I've decided to have 1911 style, not really 1911 but 2011 single stack pistol - Staccato R.
So was it right decision? YES, definitely was. From shooting perspective Staccato R is on the top of the nicest, easiest and most accurate shooters. That is something I can compare to CZ TSO. What I need is aim, press the trigger and "voila!" - dead center.
Unfortunately there are few disadvantages (perhaps only for me) :
- grip is amazing - typical 2011 polymer grip, but in single stack. Unfortunately front strap has very, very, very... and one more very aggressive texture. I couldn't stand it for longer than 50 rounds during first shooting. It ended up with sanding, almost to flat. Now I can say the grip is PERFECT !
- no ambi mag release. But I can live with that. I get used to it with other 1911s. However DWX would win on this field.
Few comparisons to DWX:
- Length -> 1/4" longer / bigger
- Width -> 1/32" slimmer... so no difference here
- Height -> 1/2" shorter (but they are the same when magazine is loaded. Staccato's mag sticks out from the grip about half inch)
- Weight -> 8 oz lighter (polymer grip 8) )
- sights -> the same
- trigger pull -> seems to be the same, based on DWX videos watched
- trigger -> take-up almost not existing.... reset extremely short
- Staccato R comes with bushing
So far I put around 1,000 rounds in 3 days...and never had been happier with MY handgun ;D
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Thoughts on the Staccato being meant for duty use vs something like the DWX for competition use?
When I played with a Staccato that's the feeling I got. Nice, robust gun meant for duty, not something finely tuned.
Can you give your impressions on that area? I have never shot it so am ignorant of real life performance.
I wonder how it compares to something like an STI DVC or maybe some of the Atlas guns.
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Congrats! Did you get the 9 or 45? I've only fired 2 2011 type guns- a Brazos tuned .40 and a CWA .22LR. Both were spectacular.
CZ-USA really laid an egg by going silent on the DWX. Sadly, I think they've thrown away a great deal of goodwill and customer loyalty by handling it this way. Like you, I saw the DWX as the ideal platform.
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I've got 9 mm. That's my favourite caliber.
I'm not sure if I should blame CZ that I didn't wait for DWX, or thanks them that I bought Staccato. ::)
Anyway, the move towards Staccato R was thoughtful. I shot whole STI line during their "demo day" in 2019. That time I wasn't sure about them. I drove 2 hr to that range. And that night, when I drove back home, I knew I would have one of them.
As you know STI changed to Staccato and handguns changed a little bit as well.
I was looking for 5" barrel, so my options were limited to "R" and "XL". "XC" was out of my budget.
I wasn't prepared to spend more than $2K...so the choice was obvious.
Staccato R can be compared to C and P. These are mostly known. XL is the same with double stack grip, as all of 2011 should be.
This one cannot be compared to old STI DVC line. It's not competition pistol... but the way it operates is closer to be competition than duty pistol.
I don't even think it needs any tuning or adjustment. It is perfect for the job it was created for.
As I mentioned before, I'm a defensive shooter, the only competition for me are range shooting based on IDPA matches. And for these my M&P 9 4.25" was enough.
Now with Staccato R I feel I'm equipped with few steps above... Still not the top...but I don't feel any needs for better handgun anymore.
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The staccato -
I have fairly small hands and the Staccato P seemed to fit ok.
After holding it for a while I realized that the beavertail was too square and/or not rounded upwards enough for me on the sides. I could feel it digging into the web of my hand.
The grip is also slightly too wide for me...but it's a 2011 so I'm not sure how you solve that.
Perhaps some sort of grip reduction would work for me.
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I have fairly small hands and the Staccato P seemed to fit ok.
After holding it for a while I realized that the beavertail was too square and/or not rounded upwards enough for me on the sides. I could feel it digging into the web of my hand.
The grip is also slightly too wide for me...but it's a 2011 so I'm not sure how you solve that.
Perhaps some sort of grip reduction would work for me.
Beavertail is OK, perhaps they improved it comparing to previous STI models. However grip safety pinches a little (I do not have this on other 1911s). The biggest improvement is a new grip. These are completely redesigned vs old STIs. I'd even say the new 2011 grip will fit you perfectly now. At least this is what I felt checking new Staccato P.
Latest update after another 1,000 rds:
- magazines suck... these are not bad, but for the price I'd expect a better product. Anyway, what I've found is that after loading 3 - 4 rds every next loaded round keeps the nose downward. I got used to tap every loaded mag from the back, so eventually the rounds became arranged correctly, but few times I got Failure To Feed when I forgot to do this.
I hope everything become smoother after next couple thousand rounds.
- overall speaking - the gun is amazing. With simple grip adjustment it shoots almost by itself :D. First time in my life I was able to make "smiley face" at the silhouette target from 15 feet :)
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The staccato -
I have fairly small hands and the Staccato P seemed to fit ok.
After holding it for a while I realized that the beavertail was too square and/or not rounded upwards enough for me on the sides. I could feel it digging into the web of my hand.
The grip is also slightly too wide for me...but it's a 2011 so I'm not sure how you solve that.
Perhaps some sort of grip reduction would work for me.
Beavertail is OK, perhaps they improved it comparing to previous STI models. However grip safety pinches a little (I do not have this on other 1911s). The biggest improvement is a new grip. These are completely redesigned vs old STIs. I'd even say the new 2011 grip will fit you perfectly now. At least this is what I felt checking new Staccato P.
Latest update after another 1,000 rds:
- magazines suck... these are not bad, but for the price I'd expect a better product. Anyway, what I've found is that after loading 3 - 4 rds every next loaded round keeps the nose downward. I got used to tap every loaded mag from the back, so eventually the rounds became arranged correctly, but few times I got Failure To Feed when I forgot to do this.
I hope everything become smoother after next couple thousand rounds.
- overall speaking - the gun is amazing. With simple grip adjustment it shoots almost by itself :D. First time in my life I was able to make "smiley face" at the silhouette target from 15 feet :)
I guess my hands are freakishly small.
I was holding a January manufacture Staccato.
The grip is too thick for me and the beavertail rubs.
I'm probably among the few with this problem.
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I guess my hands are freakishly small.
I was holding a January manufacture Staccato.
The grip is too thick for me and the beavertail rubs.
I'm probably among the few with this problem.
The regular 2011 grip seems to be OK for me... but single stack fits better, especially for one hand shooting. That was a second reason I chose R model. (first was 5" barrel for almost half price of XL model)
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For 2 grand, you'd think they would include properly sorted mags. It isn't as if there aren't good single stack mags available. Are the Staccato mags proprietary? This is the kind of thing that damaged STI's reputation to begin with. Wasn't Dave Dawson supposed to have come back and straightened things out?
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Congrats! Did you get the 9 or 45? I've only fired 2 2011 type guns- a Brazos tuned .40 and a CWA .22LR. Both were spectacular.
CZ-USA really laid an egg by going silent on the DWX. Sadly, I think they've thrown away a great deal of goodwill and customer loyalty by handling it this way. Like you, I saw the DWX as the ideal platform.
I emailed DW 2 weeks ago hoping for some clarification but got no response at all. I rate my CZ's above ANYTHING else but they need to get their act together or risk loosing alot of business. I really had no interest in the DWX and there's nothing on the horizon I really want but there are many people out there buying guns and looking for the next new thing so to tease the community with the premise of a new piece of gun tech in the DWX and then let it evaporate was poorly thought out on their part.
To be fair the plandemic monkey wrenched many things for everyone just as was intended but they need to provide clarification here.
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For 2 grand, you'd think they would include properly sorted mags. It isn't as if there aren't good single stack mags available. Are the Staccato mags proprietary? This is the kind of thing that damaged STI's reputation to begin with. Wasn't Dave Dawson supposed to have come back and straightened things out?
;) That is what I've expected. I shot Staccato P in 2019 few times and the mags worked fine. I was sure it'd be the case with model R. I didn't check original 1911 mags yet... I'm gonna give Staccato's mags a chance. I see one mag works better now, I'm guessing this is one I've been shooting the most.
Actually this pistol is the very first for me with such precise manufacturing ;)
I'll keep you posted guys.. hopefully DWX shows on the shelves soon, so no more "Staccato discussion" will be needed :)
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I emailed DW 2 weeks ago hoping for some clarification but got no response at all. I rate my CZ's above ANYTHING else but they need to get their act together or risk loosing alot of business. I really had no interest in the DWX and there's nothing on the horizon I really want but there are many people out there buying guns and looking for the next new thing so to tease the community with the premise of a new piece of gun tech in the DWX and then let it evaporate was poorly thought out on their part.
To be fair the plandemic monkey wrenched many things for everyone just as was intended but they need to provide clarification here.
That might be my guess only... but I suspect DW has so many orders waiting for this model and just doesn't care when the production starts.
Having enough money to survive the pandemic and having millions $$$ in orders... what would you do? Definitely be patient, don't waste time and money to move the machinery to different State... eventually those millions come... ::)
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The DWX is reminiscent of the Desert Tech MDR from a few years ago.
From Shot Show debut, it was several years before they could get them out the door.
I think there are even people from a group-buy in 2018 that still have not received their rifles.
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The DWX is reminiscent of the Desert Tech MDR from a few years ago.
From Shot Show debut, it was several years before they could get them out the door.
I think there are even people from a group-buy in 2018 that still have not received their rifles.
Lol, it might as well be a Bren10. There's no good reason to not update customers for this period of time.
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I emailed DW 2 weeks ago hoping for some clarification but got no response at all. I rate my CZ's above ANYTHING else but they need to get their act together or risk loosing alot of business. I really had no interest in the DWX and there's nothing on the horizon I really want but there are many people out there buying guns and looking for the next new thing so to tease the community with the premise of a new piece of gun tech in the DWX and then let it evaporate was poorly thought out on their part.
To be fair the plandemic monkey wrenched many things for everyone just as was intended but they need to provide clarification here.
That might be my guess only... but I suspect DW has so many orders waiting for this model and just doesn't care when the production starts.
Having enough money to survive the pandemic and having millions $$$ in orders... what would you do? Definitely be patient, don't waste time and money to move the machinery to different State... eventually those millions come... ::)
I doubt that they will have many orders left at all by the time they get going if they get going. I talked to the owner of the local range I shoot at today who tends to be one of the guys in the know and he said they are not getting normal production out the door at this point and even regular production CZ's are going to be unicorns going forward. But like Earl said above there's no good reason not to update people at this point.
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There's no good reason to not update customers for this period of time
Perhaps they are still counting on patient Customers... I'm not one of them anymore ???
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OK I've sort of fallen in love with the Staccato P.
3 pound 6 ounce trigger. Great slide to frame fitment.
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I almost went with a Staccato myself while waiting for the DWX, but decided I wanted single stack stainless steel commander regardless. If DW wants a double stack 1911 (2011) to compete with the Staccato and Wilson Combat and Nighthawk 1911s, it should make one. This thing has none of the elegance of a 1911 or a 2011 and won't appeal to many 1911 fans. CZ fans already have a variety of high cap CZs to chose from-- why buy a hybrid that's neither fish nor fowl?
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because they want the great Dan Wesson trigger in a pistol with the ergonomic excellence of the CZ 75
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because they want the great Dan Wesson trigger in a pistol with the ergonomic excellence of the CZ 75
Yep. Best of both worlds plus it doesn't require $100+ mags that need tuning.
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Given the political environment at the moment, I wouldn't hold out for the DWX.
Go get a Staccato. Just holding that pistol is in itself a great feeling.
Why not panic buy a Staccato? I can think of plenty of other ways of spending money that aren't nearly as satisfying.
The grip is certainly wider (a bit wider for people with smaller hands) but really that gun just feels awesome.
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because they want the great Dan Wesson trigger in a pistol with the ergonomic excellence of the CZ 75
YES :) YES ;) YES :D
But to be honest... I've got the great Staccato trigger with ergonomic excellence of 1911 ::) :P ;)
DWX is worth the money to spend on. If not now... maybe one day, in post pandemic future... 8)
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UPDATE AFTER +/- 1,000 ROUNDS:
Staccato's mags seems to be OK now. Pistol came with 3 mags, I've been mostly shooting 2. These 2 become excellent now. No problems with loading, and feeding.
The 3rd one still got a problem to be freely ejected from grip, needs a little help (pulling it down on shaking the pistol). But I know it needs few hundred rounds to be good as other 2.
So far Staccato R is pretty d a m n great pistol. It just needed some time to become great. :)
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because they want the great Dan Wesson trigger in a pistol with the ergonomic excellence of the CZ 75
YES :) YES ;) YES :D
But to be honest... I've got the great Staccato trigger with ergonomic excellence of 1911 ::) :P ;)
DWX is worth the money to spend on. If not now... maybe one day, in post pandemic future... 8)
I've held both the Staccato C and C2 several times on several occasions recently, but finally backed away. Fit & finish is good, but at the end of the day, it's a largely polymer and aluminum gun. I bought an Ed Brown KC9 SS instead and couldn't be happier with the quality and feel. The weight is within 1 oz. of my CZ 75 Shadow SA (with a CZC trigger/hammer and CGW 10x bushing), which is what I carry when I need a higher cap for zombies or something. When I'm feeling puny and want to save 3.5 oz., I'll carry my DW Vigil Commander. I just don't like the top heavy feel of plastic guns.
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it's unfair to compare an existing firearm with a nonexisting firearm, so you never really had a choice; did you?
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it's unfair to compare an existing firearm with a nonexisting firearm, so you never really had a choice; did you?
It is unfair to introduce something and never make it available to Customers...
The choice was always there... but that was between having great handgun on me.. or having great gun on the picture... I chose the first option.
BTW... I'm now also happy owner of Staccato C2 DPO ;) And I don't feel sorry for DWX :P
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it's unfair to compare an existing firearm with a nonexisting firearm, so you never really had a choice; did you?
It is unfair to introduce something and never make it available to Customers...
The choice was always there... but that was between having great handgun on me.. or having great gun on the picture... I chose the first option.
BTW... I'm now also happy owner of Staccato C2 DPO ;) And I don't feel sorry for DWX :P
I paid for mine 2 years ago, that store credit is looking sexy as all get out
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I paid for mine 2 years ago, that store credit is looking sexy as all get out
OK.
I'm curious... why your every new post is bigger and bigger? ;D 8) ::)
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There was a few questions about Staccato's grip.
I'm not a fan of their new, Gen2 grip. It is indeed wider as expected. But, after few hours of research and other Staccato shooters opinions I found the solution.
I bought Gen1 Tactical Grip for C2 with carry option from Extreme Shooters. The original Gen1 is narrower than Gen2 but Extreme Shooters company trim it even more, so size of the grip is almost identical to P-07/09 or P-01.... which is perfect for me.
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I paid for mine 2 years ago, that store credit is looking sexy as all get out
OK.
I'm curious... why your every new post is bigger and bigger? ;D 8) ::)
I don't know either, but it's starting to grate.
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Still pleased with your Staccato R, jurek?
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Still pleased with your Staccato R, jurek?
Oh.. yeah.... :)
I take R and C2 for every tactical classes. R shoots nicer and smoother. But I cannot conceal it well, co that's the reason I use C2.
There is no single complain about C2, I think the difference is because C2 has to use "recoil master" instead of "dawson guide rod" and the springs are little harder.
Anyway, R is my favourite Staccato. I will probably go with P, but I will have to switch the grip to Gen1, and it eventually be close to R anyway...
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Cool! I'm thinking of picking up an R. Fondled one, today. It felt... right. Been reading up on it. It seems to check all the boxes.
I, too, am interested in something that more closely matches my carry 1911's, I think.
Update: It's done.
LGS had it in stock. After two days of debating with myself about it, I went and got it:
(https://www.linxnet.com/misc/guns/Staccato_R/IMG_2922-18pct.JPG)
On-topic for the forum: I messaged DW a few days back, asking them if they could share with me any kind of projection as to when the DWX might become available.
<crickets>...
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Cool! I'm thinking of picking up an R. Fondled one, today. It felt... right. Been reading up on it. It seems to check all the boxes.
I, too, am interested in something that more closely matches my carry 1911's, I think.
Update: It's done.
LGS had it in stock. After two days of debating with myself about it, I went and got it:
Congrats !
Whenever you need extra magazines, go with Wilson Combat PN: 500-9B
This one fits perfectly but has black finish and looks way better once loaded into the magwell. 8)
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Congrats !
Thanks!
Whenever you need extra magazines, go with Wilson Combat PN: 500-9B
Ah, I thought the Wilson Combat 500-9 was the right one, but I could not find confirmation. Thanks!
This one fits perfectly but has black finish and looks way better once loaded into the magwell. 8)
I know what you mean, but I do kind of like the stainless mags and I don't much mind the bottom of it showing.
That happens a bit with one of my other 1911's. I have been wondering...
Hmmm... How to Stain Stainless Steel Dark or Black (https://www.hunker.com/13415260/how-to-stain-stainless-steel-dark-or-black)
Maybe that's what Wilson does with their "blued" stainless steel 500-9B?
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Ah, I thought the Wilson Combat 500-9 was the right one, but I could not find confirmation. Thanks!
I called Wilson Combat before my purchase. They did not confirmed it would work, but told me whenever Staccato R followed Mil-Spec, I should be good.
And now I can confirm, it is 100% compatible and what I notice works smother that original ones.
Hmmm... How to Stain Stainless Steel Dark or Black (https://www.hunker.com/13415260/how-to-stain-stainless-steel-dark-or-black)
Maybe that's what Wilson does with their "blued" stainless steel 500-9B?
Interesting... I have to check it out. I'm still thinking about having black magazines only... ;) Thx for that link.
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Have you figured out what can be used for a competition holster for the R?
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Have you figured out what can be used for a competition holster for the R?
I'm not a competition shooter, so I've never looked for a holster designed for that.
I'm using Legacy Firearms GRIFFIN OWB holster for Staccato R. It's is one of the best holsters I've ever used. You might be looking for their AXION COMPETITION HOLSTER (OWB) which gets bigger cut for faster and shorter draw stroke. I think this one was used by Mike Seeklander. You will be satisfied with Legacy Firearms product quality.
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Thanks! I'll look into Legacy.
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Latest update after another 1,000 rds:
- magazines suck... these are not bad, but for the price I'd expect a better product. Anyway, what I've found is that after loading 3 - 4 rds every next loaded round keeps the nose downward. I got used to tap every loaded mag from the back, so eventually the rounds became arranged correctly, but few times I got Failure To Feed when I forgot to do this.
And later you said the mags eventually started behaving.
I wonder: Did you clean the stock mags before using them? I ask because, I don't know if the insides are like the outsides, or if yours were like mine, the the outsides of mine are kind of sticky/greasy.
I do see what you mean, though. I had two of the three fully-loaded to "condition" the springs and it was a bear getting the first few rounds out of one of them so I could swap it for the one that was in the pistol for dry-firing.
I'm going to take them all apart and give them a good cleaning when I field-strip the pistol for an initial clean and lube before its first trip out.
I still haven't decided whether to buy the Wilson 500-9's or 500-9B's - lol
Ok... Before I hit "Post" I took one apart and cleaned it. Yeah: It's necessary. At least the first mag I tore down was literally wet with lube.
Gave everything a good wipe-down with CLP, then a dry patch and dry paper towel. In the pistol: More than eight rounds = FTF.
*blegh* :(
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Yeah.
The original magazines started to be OK after some time. Looks they needed "break-in" period and probably also a good cleaning.
They are ok now, however if you need extra mag, go with Wilson Combat. They are better.
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... if you need extra mag, go with Wilson Combat. They are better.
I'll probably eventually acquire a full complement of Wilson mags (six). I plan to shoot one or more of bowling pins, Steel Challenge, and IDPA. Maybe even USPSA. I'll want dependable mags ;)
But that's in the future. I haven't even gotten this bad boy to the range for some paper-punching, yet.
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I haven't even gotten this bad boy to the range for some paper-punching, yet.
Really >:(
I had more than 300 dry fire repetitions with my Staccato before I shot first live round on the Range... ;D
Try this and you will know all pros and cons without paper-punching. ;)
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Really >:(
Well, I've only had it since Friday afternoon, after all. I don't go to public ranges on weekends. Monday I had chores to do. Today was my wife's birthday. So...
I had more than 300 dry fire repetitions with my Staccato before I shot first live round on the Range... ;D
Try this and you will know all pros and cons without paper-punching. ;)
BTDT :) Been dry-firing multiple times/day ever since I brought it home.
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Well, I've only had it since Friday afternoon, after all. I don't go to public ranges on weekends. Monday I had chores to do. Today was my wife's birthday. So...
:)
Happy Birthday to your wife!
BTDT :) Been dry-firing multiple times/day ever since I brought it home.
I can imagine the smile on your face during dry fire process... ;)
Anyway, give the feedback once you shoot live ammo!
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Finally got my Staccato R out shooting, yesterday.
252 rounds consisting of a mix of Blazer Brass, Winchester White Box, and Federal Champion 115 gr. FMJ, and Fiocchi 124 gr. FMJ. Out of all those I had one failure: The third-from-the-last magazine refused to strip the first or second rounds. (There were three shooters.)
That magazine had been loaded my by buddy. None of the top 5-6 rounds wanted to strip. I unloaded the entire mag, reloaded it, and it ran fine. I hypothesize they're very sensitive to the way they're loaded.
I was using a Maglula UpLula loader designed for double-stack magazines.
I had cleaned the mags, beforehand, and each of them had been "pre-conditioned" by being fully-loaded-up for up to a week. I started-out with each mag loaded to only eight rounds. Did that twice for each mag. Then went to nine rounds. Then to ten.
My best friend, after about his third mag, walked back to the table with a big grin on his face. By the end of the session he was "I gotta have one of these!" ;D
I love this pistol. It's everything I wanted in a 9mm "range toy" (and possible action pistol competition gun).
It's unfortunate Staccato chose to supply such finicky mags with such a stellar pistol :( I will be replacing all mine with Wilson Combat mags. I won't be carrying this pistol, but, should I choose to try competition, I'd hate to have one of these mags balk on me during same.
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Hi Michiganian,
Good to hear back from you.
Give the mags second chance. ;)
I went through the same problem.
WC mag is awesome, never had single malfunction from very beginning.... but the original magazines are OK right now. I've been shooting both (Staccato and WC mags) at least once per month at classes and never has failures again.
Looks they need "shooter's touch" to cooperate. ;)
FYI: I'll be blackening original magazines today... let see what happens next... ::) ??? 8)
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Doesn't look perfect, but the color does the job.
Next time I'll use solution, not gel ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/gLTkWvc.png)
Mag on the left - blackened Staccato, mag on the right original Wilson Combat
Top grip - Staccato's mag
Bottom grip - Wilson Combat.
I've never noticed, till today that WC mag fits nicer, leaving less space at the bottom of the grip. ???
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Unfortunately there are few disadvantages (perhaps only for me) :
- grip is amazing - typical 2011 polymer grip, but in single stack. Unfortunately front strap has very, very, very... and one more very aggressive texture. I couldn't stand it for longer than 50 rounds during first shooting. It ended up with sanding, almost to flat. Now I can say the grip is PERFECT !
When I first got my "R" I feared I'd have to do the same thing. That front strap felt pretty uncomfortable at first. But, the more I dry-fired the pistol, the less I noticed it. By the time I shot with it for the first time last Sunday I noticed it not at all--which occurred to me only a few days later. Neither of the other two shooters mentioned it, either. I shot 120 rounds, my friends shot seventy each.
I wonder if the sharp edges smoothed-out a bit with use?
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I wonder if the sharp edges smoothed-out a bit with use?
They should.. it's just plastic.. but how long does it take?
I sanded down a little whole grip texture and much more material, removing half of deep of the pattern, at the area where my firing hand's fingers wrap around.
I've just made it 10 years old right away. ;D
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I wonder if the sharp edges smoothed-out a bit with use?
They should.. it's just plastic.. but how long does it take?
Apparently not long. Got mine sitting right next to me (just cleaned it, yesterday) with a laser dry-fire practice thingamajig in it. I just picked it up and gripped it more tightly than I would normally. Not uncomfortable at all. Sure is grippy, though. Should be great with sweaty hands on hot days during competition strings :)
As an aside: Not only is this pistol a great shooter, but it's also one of my easiest to take down, clean, and re-assemble.
I love this pistol, yes I do :D
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As an aside: Not only is this pistol a great shooter, but it's also one of my easiest to take down, clean, and re-assemble.
I love this pistol, yes I do :D
:)
I was surprised as well how easy and fast was take down process.
You will also love complete and detail cleaning. Everything comes apart so easily. No special tools required. There is no confusion with small parts. Everything fits its only spot.
Easy peasy lemon squeezy ;D
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You may find this amusing, jurek :)
A few posts back I mentioned one of my best friends, after shooting my Staccato R, said "I gotta have one of these!" Well, he just called me on his way back from his FFL--brand new Stacatto R in-hand ;D
He's happy as a pig in... well, you know.
Btw: I decided to go with the un-blued stainless WC mags. I don't mind that little bit of stainless showing at the bottom.
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hey, that's a great news that we get another happy Staccato R shooter.
I enjoy mine more and more. Recently got low light class and was surprised it shot extremely easy and accurately one handed! (I still haven't convinced myself to mount light on the rail). ;)