The Original CZ Forum
GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tanners Owner on July 05, 2021, 11:26:34 PM
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Am wondering what the team here views as the best CZ pistol is in their view. I have a few and love them all. While my preference if I had to choose just one to keep, it would be the P01 Omega I own. It’s the right compromise of size, capacity, accuracy for my carry competition and HD needs.
While all are superb IMO, I think the 75/85 is the best as it spawned the compact, shadow, SPO1 guns. They all have their roots in this design. It’s ergonomics carry through to the others and remains the standard by which I judge other guns by. The 75/85 remains a viable carry, HD, competition & range gun, despite its design age.
So I vote for the 75/85 as the best- it’s the classic iconic wonder nine before the polymer framed guns came out.
My apologies if I missed any models- I tried to focus on those readily available.
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It's hard to argue against the P-01 Omega as being the ideal CZ pistol.
The trigger mechanism (Omega vs CZ75 standard) is generally a matter of preference, but if one is forced to choose one gun, it's hard to argue against the Omega system. The Omega system gives users 2 options, and is certainly sufficiently accurate for pistol work. With a little TLC, the Omega triggers ROCK N ROLL.
For reliability, I don't think you can beat the P-07, P-09, or P-10. They're FAR more reliable than guns that are considered reliable.
For accuracy, with CZ, it really comes down to the shooter (because I don't think you had competition guns in mind...the Czechmate Parrot really is that much more accurate)...but you can tinker with the hammer-fired guns much more, so that gives the P-07 & P-09 an edge. Also, the barrel lock in the P-07 & P-09 is good enough that a barrel bushing is no longer necessary for accuracy (hello reliability).
Because the P-07 can do basically everything the P-09 will do but also uses P-09 and P10 mags (the shorter P-07 mags don't work in the P-09), the P-07 wins out.
However the P-07 just doesn't fit my hand as well as the P-01, and NATO has shown that the P-01 can take an absolute beating.
The P-01 is basically a P-07 with more options. I think you've figured it out, friend!
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I voted for 75C/P-01/PCR... however it was hard for me not to vote for P07/09. I love P-07, but still have a sentiment to my P-01 Omega.
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I've abstained from voting since I am only familiar with the P07.
Returning to shooting after a 40 year hiatus, I tried a slew of pistols (and wheel guns) before finding any CZs to try out. Nothing I tried fit my old arthritic grip better than the P07 or P09. I wanted a P01 but eventually overcame my all metal bias in favor of comfort. No regrets at all ! I've got a great shooting pistol that I can completely tear down and reassemble, and doesn't leave my hand numb after a range session.
Got the Wife interested in shooting, and went through a year long quest for her choice. Although she liked (and I encouraged) the HK P30, she finally picked out her own P07 in ODG with tritium.
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I'll take the standard 75 series action over the Omega hands down. I've owned both and I simply don't like the Omega system. The traditional action just tunes up better. As far as the "best CZ' goes that's simply a matter of preference as well and I wouldn't trade my PCR's for any 2 of anything else.
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Hoestly, I love shooting my P-10S more than almost all the rest. I also have to say the best non poly CZ I ever fired was the PCR, my all time favorite hammer fired CCW pistol.
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75b because it hosts the all steel Kadet conversion, the combination of which is a platform for a terrific bullseye competition pistol. Add a CGW 10x bushing to a 9mm 75B slide and you have a centerfire bullseye pistol, too.
But I can't choose between the polymer guns. I've shot the P-10F the most over the last two years, but the P-10S is the most surprisingly good at long distances, but I carry a P-07 and have two P-09 hammer guns because they work so well for everything centerfire that I'm interested in.
The 97B is a scaled up version of a 75B, and is my preference over any other .45 available, with a CGW "E" bushing. Period.
Choosing between them is futile. On this current trip, I brought the 75B Kadet, 97B"E", P-07, and P-10F/S pistols because I couldn't choose just two. And a few boxes of ammo for each. Good to have choices. So far, I've only shot the P-10F and S, however. At 100 yards, my one and only current specialty, and one where the striker polymer CZ guns excel, surprisingly.
Joe
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Best for what?
My P07 and P09 are the most accurate of all the CZs I own.
The P01 Omega feels better in my hand than any of the CZs.
I really like the CZ85's.
I carry the P07 day in, day out. Close to home. Road trips away from home.
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We need more posts. These are all excellent posts, gents!
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The 83 in .32 is an absolute joy to shoot
I shoot my stock P09 better than any other gun I own
but at the end of the day, I had to go with the 75
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Very hard question for sure. I came to CZ for DA/SA guns, so I can rule out the P10 series to start with. Then I put the Shadow II is a class of its own since it is designed for comp. Out of the others I only have experience with the P07/P09, SP01 Tac, 75B and 97. Out of these, I actualyy rely on the P07/P09 series for "duty" type use. Are they the best? Meh, not sure about that, but they are the best CZ handguns for me in the roles I am using them.
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Something made with a metal frame & slide, a manual thumb safety ...... and has an exposed hammer.
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Something made with a metal frame & slide, a manual thumb safety ...... and has an exposed hammer.
8) COLT 45 ! - awesome choice O0
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Something made with a metal frame & slide, a manual thumb safety ...... and has an exposed hammer.
8) COLT 45 ! - awesome choice O0
Hey, it stood the test of time. There are very few pistols that can claim to that badge of honor.
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Something made with a metal frame & slide, a manual thumb safety ...... and has an exposed hammer.
8) COLT 45 ! - awesome choice O0
Hey, it stood the test of time. There are very few pistols that can claim to that badge of honor.
Yeah it stood the test of time and JMB cured it's shortcomings with the BHP which has stood the test of time along with the CZ 75.
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the question is too vague to properly answer.
Best for What?
The best range pistol I have is one of the worst choices for a CCW.
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Over the years I’ve owned 75 Shadow, SP-01 Shadow, P10C, and Shadow 2’s. I like them all, but I voted based on what I enjoy shooting the most (Shadow 2). Mine are setup as competition guns (Carry Optics and Production) tho I suppose it would be perfectly adequate for carry or HD purposes.
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the question is too vague to properly answer.
Best for What?
The best range pistol I have is one of the worst choices for a CCW.
It’s really what’s best for you based on your insights, experiences.
There is no universally acceptable answer to be honest, I just wanted to see what others thought
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As always these questions garner responses based simply and solely on opinions.
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I was always told the best gun in the world is the one in your hand when you need it most.
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the question is too vague to properly answer.
Best for What?
The best range pistol I have is one of the worst choices for a CCW.
It’s really what’s best for you based on your insights, experiences.
There is no universally acceptable answer to be honest, I just wanted to see what others thought
If I'm going to the range, hard to beat the TacSport in .40, but it is the P-07 Duty that goes in a holster.
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My favorite is a custom shop P-01 but I also like all my other CZs (RAMI, Shadow 2 and polished SS 75B).
I use the RAMI four to five times a week with my laser cartridge.
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These? You can have your CZ and eat it too [emoji3]
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Any steel cz😆
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These? You can have your CZ and eat it too [emoji3]
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Winner, winner, chicken dinner :D. The best response ;D
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I'm going to say the "best" is my favorite. A CZ Shadow worked over by Angus Hobdell is my favorite CZ. 8)
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I shoot my P-09 the best of all of mine, but I have to admit I'm quickly becoming a striker fired fan. I have a 75B, a 75D a couple of P-07s and a P-09.
I had SP-01 Tactical but just couldn't fall in love with it. It was a good range toy but just too heavy and big to be a practical 'do-all' gun.
I now have a Shadow Systems MR 920 Combat that I'm pretty fond of and recently picked up an S&W M&P Compact for my Holosun.
Sorry to taint the thread with non-CZ stuff but I gotta spread the wealth.
I'm actually more fond of the Omega fire control group than I am the traditional configuration. I have all of my P-series guns configured with the de-cocker.
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Cz currently makes the very best polymer frame, striker fired pistols on the market AND they're all under $500; so why no love for the p10's? What gives?
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I own two CZ's. They are both P-07's and they are both set up exactly the same, basically identical other than the color of their frames, their serial numbers, and the diameters of their DA rollers. They are my favorite because they fit my dual-purpose requirement of concealed carry and home defense as a left-handed shooter, and they are redundant, interchangeable in that role.
If I had a second choice to meet the same requirement, I'd probably have two P-01 Omegas set up exactly the same, except with different color G10 grips to tell them apart. I'd also work them over with polishing and CGW parts like I did with my P-07's.
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Cz currently makes the very best polymer frame, striker fired pistols on the market AND they're all under $500; so why no love for the p10's? What gives?
Though I think the P-07 or P-01 are the "best", the only CZs I use regularly are P10s. The S2 and 97 are fantastic, but the P10C is what fits me best. Wish it was a hammer gun though so I'd feel that much safer holstering it.
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Love the look of CZ75s
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the question is too vague to properly answer.
Best for What?
The best range pistol I have is one of the worst choices for a CCW.
Good point!
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the question is too vague to properly answer.
Best for What?
The best range pistol I have is one of the worst choices for a CCW.
Good point!
Agree. Yet for me, the answer is pretty easy. The best fighting pistol is the P-09, the best competition pistol is the TSO...those are the only ones I own. ;D
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TS2 bronze, wish they would release them in the US.
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Right now it's my CZ 75 Sp-01 Tactical / Decocker that's been "touched" by CGW. It my be unseated when my PCR comes home.
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I was always told the best gun in the world is the one in your hand when you need it most.
I can relate to that ! As aging removes some memories, it leaves more room for others to reverberate !
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The ITM AT84 is my favorite CZ!!! 8) Ooh, I just used a big ol’ spoon to stir the pot. Just messin around. ;D
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My first version of the Cz design was an AT-84 in hard chrome. RSR used to sell those for just over $200. Gun was reliable, but lots of tool marks inside the frame with a barrel bushing that looked like it was reamed with a rock. Tanfo parts assembled in Switzerland.......far from a Sig P-210.
My fav Cz would be my Shadow 2. Accuracy wise, that pistol can hang with my 1911 bullseye guns. If you run out of ammo, you still have about 3 lbs. of steel with that “tactical” rail to effect a serious pistol whipping on some tango........Ouch!
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The poll is missing the large frame TS variants. My fav's are my TSO's.
Cheers,
Toby
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I can not narrow the reply to one particular gun is better than another as I see various firearms in different categories. For carry...a P-01/PCR in 9mm or a CZ 97 in 45 cal. For target, I like a P-07/09 or a Shadow.
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The PCR just fits me like a glove.
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75/85 because that's what I have. Or any and all of the above, either works.
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I’ve had four RAMI, PCR, SPHINX, SHADOW 2
The rami was nice but to fat for me in the grip. The Sphinx although not a CZ is a sweet shooter but lacking in support. My carry is the PCR cajunized and I love it and my new range gun the Shadow 2 is wonderful but to big for me to carry so limited. So I guess overall the PCR wins
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CZ 75B Omega gets my vote
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My 85 Combat...cuz that's what I got.
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The one that I shoot the best is the CZ97b"E"
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I screwed up and voted p09 instead of voting 97.
For me it's because nothing I've found tops it.
My 97 beats my DW 1911s, beats the crap out of P220, beats fnx 45.
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CZ 75BD. It is my one and only CZ. My other pistol is the Colt 1911.
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I am a big fan of CZs. I own 7 of them and probably have 200k rounds through them. All depends on use case.
Shadows are the best Production/Carry Optics guns out there.
I don't think the other guns are the best in the use case. I carry a P10C with a dot. If I was going to buy the carry gun I would like the most, I would get an M&P 2.0 Compact with a dot. It wasn't available at the time I bought the P10C and it's not enough better to be worth changing.
The Tac Sport isn't as good as the 2011 platform.
I prefer some of the plastic striker guns to the P-07/9
Non-Shadow full size steel guns aren't optimal in a use case I'm interested in.
I don't have experience with compact and sub compact steal guns. If I'm going small, I'm going polymer. Plenty accurate and reliable. Lighter and less complicated operation.
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I swear my Beretta 81BB in .32 ACP is the most accurate gun I have ever owned and beats ALL of my CZ 9MM's in long distance accuracy and I have two CZ 75B Omega's and an SP-01. The entire Beretta magazine of 12 rounds hits a 16" square target at 15 yards just by "Point and Shoot", without even lining up the post and dot sights. And the same results at 25 yards with sighting it in. Now that's what I call an ideal self-defensive weapon! Who cares if a larger caliber has more stopping power if you miss your target 3 out of 5 times. And in a stressful situation, I doubt if most people are going to be able to take the time to focus on the proper grip and sighting, which will only add to the lack of accuracy
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I think my P-01 Omega is pretty much perfect, but I love all of my CZ's.
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My favorite is a SP-O1 Shadow duo tone with a leupold DPP. it just fits my hand, it shoots smoothly. I have many different CZ pistols polymer, steel framed and alloy framed, I like all of my CZpistols but the duo tone is my favorite.
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My wife thinks it is her P-07 she right
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I think my P-01 Omega is pretty much perfect, but I love all of my CZ's.
Are you accurate with this gun, like out to 25 yrds? I certainly am not, not without alot of concentration on my grip and triger pull.
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I think my P-01 Omega is pretty much perfect, but I love all of my CZ's.
Are you accurate with this gun, like out to 25 yrds? I certainly am not, not without alot of concentration on my grip and triger pull.
Being accurate with any gun REQUIRES concentration on grip and trigger control plus sight alignment that's the whole shooting thing in a nutshell right there. If your not accurate with the gun it's not the gun it's the shooter who needs more quality time on the range honing his skills.
Full disclosure I have guns that I just do not shoot as well a others but I know those guns are tack drivers and I'm just not there with them at this point.
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I recently changed [improved] my grip on my P-01 Omega and am doing a lot better with accuracy now. Thanks!
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I recently changed [improved] my grip on my P-01 Omega and am doing a lot better with accuracy now. Thanks!
Also noticing better accuracy with my shadow 2 after some slight alterations to the grip ;D
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But seriously, most guns are made out of the factory for medium sized hands. If you have to curve your finger too much it will be harder to have a smooth pull.
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I now rate my CZ P-01 OMEGA AS MY "GO TO " GUN, now that I have improved my hand grip. Very accurate at short and long distances. I love this gun now!
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I am not qualified to say which CZ is the best.
I shoot my SP-01 the best, but like my P-01 the most of all my handguns..
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Yup couldn’t agree more! Things that prove themselves over the years is the best judgment of how it works for most people
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P-07; unlovely but the best fit to my hand, and it's the gun I'm most accurate with. But about any CZ will do nicely.
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CZ 75. Where it all began for me.
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P01. Light enough for easy carry, adequate capacity, rail for light if you are so inclined. And the trigger can be made into a work of art. Needs night sights to really shine in my opinion.
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While at the range today tightening up groups with my new P-10c, I was impressed with a CZ Orange the guy next to me offered to let me try a few rounds through. What a trigger! What a pistol!
I've only been shooting CZ's for about 18 months now, I don't think there is a best. I own four and hope to own a few more in the coming years. Fine firearms. I keep getting pleasantly surprised by them.