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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: gothge on January 28, 2022, 06:17:15 PM
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Just bought a new CZ 75 B OMEGA - SKU 89234.
I cleaned the new gun, got rid off every old grease and lubed it with favorite home made oil blend (mineral Oil and ceramic nano particles)
For break in I used 2 boxes Fiocchi 115 FMJ range ammo.
1st Mag flowless.
2nd Mag round 3 misfired. I ejected the bullet but no firing mark therefore I reloaded it. Misfired again, retriggered in DA mode and bang - probably a bad bullet.
The remaining 79 rounds went thru flawless with a very narrow grouping.
After that a box of Wolf copper washed bimetal 115. That ammo jammed or did not eject every cycle with the Walter PDP
Fired Flawless with the CZ.
Next: ?4 Mags of cheap bulk REMAN brass 115. This ammo caused excessive jamming on my G3c and SCCY-2
Fired Flawless with the CZ.
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And just for fun another box Wolf ammo - flawless again.
I am impressed.
My son and I did the same with his new Beretta 92 FS a couple weeks ago. Also no problems.
But for the look and feel - I like the CZ more, especially the urban grey color.
I am impressed !!!
Best full-size gun in this price range
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I used 3 additional MEC-GAR 19 round mags. (MGCZ7519DPS) - they look good and worked well as the original 18rd MEC-GARs which came with the gun.
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Congrats, I am a huge CZ fan, along with an omega P01 and a P09. Of all my CZs, I prefer the omega trigger and decocker set up.
Been shooting my CZs in IDPA - last year it was my P 10c. I’ve never had any malfunctions with my CZs during the matches.
Keep the range reports coming
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The Urban Gray models are definitely sharp looking pistols.
I don't mind the Omega models at all. Some people will tell you the triggers aren't too good and are tough to make much better but I'm a trigger snob and have no issues with my Omegas (I use the safeties and carry cocked and locked so mine are shot single action, not double action first shots).
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Congrats, I have a P-01 Omega, IMHO they are great guns. I've never had any misfires with it.
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I have read a lot about the omega trigger, zillions of opinions out there..
Here comes mine: ;D
DA is not awesome but its there if needed in case of misfiring or if decocked.
SA is very good in my opinion, I don't think there is a reason to upgrade it, at least I do not shoot at intl. championships.
Racking the slide after feeding the mag will put it in condition 0 which also means SA mode therefore no thing at the range.
If I carry - which I seldom do - I am going always unchambered (Condition 2). Let the cops do the shooting at the Walmart parking lot (and the paperwork)
Never needed to draw or take the gun out of the holster. The bears here in northeast GA fears us humans more than we fear them.
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Congrats! You forgot to share the mandatory pictures. [emoji16]
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Like this
(https://www.xib.com/cz75.png)
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Five magazines very nice ;D.
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Like this
(https://www.xib.com/cz75.png)
Yep! Nice!
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Just bought a new CZ 75 B OMEGA - SKU 89234.
I cleaned the new gun, got rid off every old grease and lubed it with favorite home made oil blend (mineral Oil and ceramic nano particles)
For break in I used 2 boxes Fiocchi 115 FMJ range ammo.
1st Mag flowless.
2nd Mag round 3 misfired. I ejected the bullet but no firing mark therefore I reloaded it. Misfired again, retriggered in DA mode and bang - probably a bad bullet.
The remaining 79 rounds went thru flawless with a very narrow grouping.
After that a box of Wolf copper washed bimetal 115. That ammo jammed or did not eject every cycle with the Walter PDP
Fired Flawless with the CZ.
Next: ?4 Mags of cheap bulk REMAN brass 115. This ammo caused excessive jamming on my G3c and SCCY-2
Fired Flawless with the CZ.
?
And just for fun another box Wolf ammo - flawless again.
I am impressed.
My son and I did the same with his new Beretta 92 FS a couple weeks ago. Also no problems.
But for the look and feel - I like the CZ more, especially the urban grey color.
I am impressed !!!
Best full-size gun in this price range
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I used 3 additional MEC-GAR 19 round mags. (MGCZ7519DPS) - they look good and worked well as the original 18rd MEC-GARs which came with the gun.
CZ does not recommend using non-brass ammo. If you continue to have FTF issues, send it back to the factory and they will lengthen the chamber throat, like they did to my Omega, which had the same issue.
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Just bought a new CZ 75 B OMEGA - SKU 89234.
I cleaned the new gun, got rid off every old grease and lubed it with favorite home made oil blend (mineral Oil and ceramic nano particles)
For break in I used 2 boxes Fiocchi 115 FMJ range ammo.
1st Mag flowless.
2nd Mag round 3 misfired. I ejected the bullet but no firing mark therefore I reloaded it. Misfired again, retriggered in DA mode and bang - probably a bad bullet.
The remaining 79 rounds went thru flawless with a very narrow grouping.
After that a box of Wolf copper washed bimetal 115. That ammo jammed or did not eject every cycle with the Walter PDP
Fired Flawless with the CZ.
Next: ?4 Mags of cheap bulk REMAN brass 115. This ammo caused excessive jamming on my G3c and SCCY-2
Fired Flawless with the CZ.
?
And just for fun another box Wolf ammo - flawless again.
I am impressed.
My son and I did the same with his new Beretta 92 FS a couple weeks ago. Also no problems.
But for the look and feel - I like the CZ more, especially the urban grey color.
I am impressed !!!
Best full-size gun in this price range
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I used 3 additional MEC-GAR 19 round mags. (MGCZ7519DPS) - they look good and worked well as the original 18rd MEC-GARs which came with the gun.
CZ does not recommend using non-brass ammo. If you continue to have FTF issues, send it back to the factory and they will lengthen the chamber throat, like they did to my Omega, which had the same issue.
Maybe read what he actually posted here. There's nothing about FTF in the CZ.
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FTF-FAILED TO FIRE
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CZ does not recommend using non-brass ammo. If you continue to have FTF issues, send it back to the factory and they will lengthen the chamber throat, like they did to my Omega, which had the same issue.
Just curious where CZ has said not to use non-brass ammo in their pistols?
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FTF-FAILED TO FIRE
FTF-FAILED TO FEED. GUN DID NOT DISCHARGE-MISFIRE.
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CZ does not recommend using non-brass ammo. If you continue to have FTF issues, send it back to the factory and they will lengthen the chamber throat, like they did to my Omega, which had the same issue.
Just curious where CZ has said not to use non-brass ammo in their pistols?
Per the Warranty Dept correspondence Technical Support and Gunsmith
1-800-955-4486
"Aluminum cases are not recommended as it does not have the same expansion and contraction properties as brass and will cause reduced performance in a straight walled chambering, regardless of the coating or plating.
Our pistols are exclusively designed around the use of brass cartridges, so we can only recommend factory loaded quality brass cased ammunition."
"We cannot recommend the use of steel cased ammunition in our pistols, as the steel to steel contact will cause excessive wear to contacted parts such as the barrel, slide, and extractor.
This will require much faster replacement of these parts so while in the short term the cost is slightly cheaper for the ammunition, the later replacement of these parts or even pistol would outweigh any savings.
For this reason, we can only recommend quality factory brass cased ammunition for the best function and longevity."
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I personally won't buy steel or aluminum cased ammo and I roll all my own anyway so I don't buy any factory ammo. That said this is a standard disclaimer they all use to cover their tails on warranty issues. CZ's will shoot cheap ammo as well as high end expensive ammo. Yes long term use of steel cased ammo can cause more wear in shorter time periods but limited use of it if that's all one could find wouldn't be an issue. Lets also be clear in that wear isn't going to happen in the short term but you would need to should many thousands of rounds of nothing but steel cased ammo to start seeing wear.
As I said this is a cya disclaimer.
Call SIG and tell them you have a failure to feed or failure to eject issue and they'll give you a very narrow list of ammo that they have decided only works in their guns and most of it being their own brand. These are the same guns that the US military now use and should be able to fire any brand of ammo in the proper caliber.
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Just started working on my own 75 Omega. Initially the trigger was quite rough with a DA pull weight that was over 18 pounds and a single action of 6 and a half pounds. Dry fired DA a 1000 times and the DA pull is down to 13 pounds and SA under 5. Still not what I want, but do not need to change much to make it much better. New 16 or 18 lb hammer spring (depends on which one will still be reliable with the Kadet kit), a reduced power firing pin block spring, reduced power trigger return spring and a probably a increased power (tanfoligo) sear spring (want a firm wall even in DA mode). All of this will be under 40 bucks and take an evening to install. May throw in a replacement firing pin retention pin just to round things out.
My two trips to the range were most satisfactory. 124gr ammo shot 100% reliable and to point of aim. Had two failures to extract with 115 gr ammo and both loads shot low. Oddly the Aluminum cased ammo shot reliably, but printed lowest of all.
May opt for a tritium front sight and paint my rear sight a flat black. Not fond of three dot sights.
JW