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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: Wildcat-TX on August 29, 2022, 09:37:37 AM
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saw it at the last show. is it worth getting? is it a copy of cz75 safety?
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Defense Combat Compact: https://www.italianfirearmsgroup.com/tanfoglio/detail/compact/
is it worth getting?
If this is the size of Pistol you want, then YES. My opinion, FWIW.
is it a cooy of cz75 safety?
It's a bit different in that the Safety may be engaged with the Hammer Down, whereas the Cz75 does not allow that.
Otherwise, it does allow for Cocked and Locked carry as a Cz75 does.
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The cool thing about the steel frame lineup from IFG is that you can purchase almost all of them in small or large frame variation. The ones from EAA are almost always large frame variants except for their polymer pistols. Other differences between CZ and Tanfoglio pistols are the mag release spring and trigger bar spring setups are different (Tanfoglio has the better design in my opinion) and you don’t have the annoying firing pin retaining pin to replace/remove to be able to pull the firing pin out. To remove the firing pin on a Tanfoglio all you have to do is push the firing pin in with a punch or similar tool and slide the back plate off. Personally I prefer Tanfoglio over CZ.
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Personally I prefer Tanfoglio over CZ.
Same here, and I own both Cz's, Tanfoglio, and Tanfoglio based Pistols.
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thanks guys. i’ll have to save up my lunch money and see if they still have it at the next show.
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The cool thing about the steel frame lineup from IFG is that you can purchase almost all of them in small or large frame variation. The ones from EAA are almost always large frame variants except for their polymer pistols. Other differences between CZ and Tanfoglio pistols are the mag release spring and trigger bar spring setups are different (Tanfoglio has the better design in my opinion) and you don’t have the annoying firing pin retaining pin to replace/remove to be able to pull the firing pin out. To remove the firing pin on a Tanfoglio all you have to do is push the firing pin in with a punch or similar tool and slide the back plate off. Personally I prefer Tanfoglio over CZ.
I've always been more of a CZ guy, but the Tanfoglios are really starting to impress me. I agree with the FPRP on the CZ B models being inferior for maintenance, and the Tanfos are just more resilient to dry firing. The magazine release on the Tanfo is just awesome. I still really like CZ, especially the Shadows and the SP-01T, but the Tanfo checks a lot of the boxes too. 8)
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It's a pity that Tangfolio/Sarsilmaz models don't have decocker setup, I'd buy one.
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It's a pity that Tangfolio/Sarsilmaz models don't have decocker setup, I'd buy one.
Yup. Other than being hard to find ones I want this is why I haven't gotten one yet
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It's a pity that Tangfolio/Sarsilmaz models don't have decocker setup, I'd buy one.
One of the primary reasons that I like them is the frame mounted safety and the fact that I can carry them cocked and locked. Though a decocker setup has no appeal to me, I wouldn't mind if they expanded their line.
Overall, it seems that the Tanfoglio pistols are less common on the market than they were and the prices relative to their competition is up.
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It's a pity that Tangfolio/Sarsilmaz models don't have decocker setup, I'd buy one.
One of the primary reasons that I like them is the frame mounted safety and the fact that I can carry them cocked and locked. Though a decocker setup has no appeal to me, I wouldn't mind if they expanded their line.
Overall, it seems that the Tanfoglio pistols are less common on the market than they were and the prices relative to their competition is up.
I’m a thumb safety guy too. I wonder if it’s maybe just a cost thing or lack of demand as to why Tanfo doesn’t offer a decocker model. Also, I believe EAA stopped selling the Tanfoglio line so, as far as I know, there’s only one US outlet, IFG (Italian Firearms Group) out of Amarillo, Texas.
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Also, I believe EAA stopped selling the Tanfoglio line so, as far as I know, there’s only one US outlet, IFG (Italian Firearms Group) out of Amarillo, Texas.
Well apparently IFG raised the prices and dropped most of the base offerings. I just searched and could find just one base compact for sale.
https://grabagun.com/ifg-combat-c-9mm-3-66-barrel-13-rounds.html?avad=211021_e2ab0c419
At $677, you can get a Beretta 92 compact or a CZ75 compact for less. The one pictured above for $500 was definitely a good deal by comparison.
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Also, I believe EAA stopped selling the Tanfoglio line so, as far as I know, there’s only one US outlet, IFG (Italian Firearms Group) out of Amarillo, Texas.
Well apparently IFG raised the prices and dropped most of the base offerings. I just searched and could find just one base compact for sale.
https://grabagun.com/ifg-combat-c-9mm-3-66-barrel-13-rounds.html?avad=211021_e2ab0c419
At $677, you can get a Beretta 92 compact or a CZ75 compact for less. The one pictured above for $500 was definitely a good deal by comparison.
Yeah, I feel like the base model offerings from IFG are overpriced but they’re high-end pistols seem decently priced for what you get. One I’m really interested in, especially if they make a compact version of it, is the new polymer framed Force ESSE 9mm. It’s Tanfoglio‘s introduction into the striker fired market. They’re not terribly fancy lookin but I’m a Tanfo fan.
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Also, I believe EAA stopped selling the Tanfoglio line so, as far as I know, there’s only one US outlet, IFG (Italian Firearms Group) out of Amarillo, Texas.
Well apparently IFG raised the prices and dropped most of the base offerings. I just searched and could find just one base compact for sale.
https://grabagun.com/ifg-combat-c-9mm-3-66-barrel-13-rounds.html?avad=211021_e2ab0c419
At $677, you can get a Beretta 92 compact or a CZ75 compact for less. The one pictured above for $500 was definitely a good deal by comparison.
Yes, EAA has dropped the Tanfoglio line, in favor of their Girsan line. As supply of all Tanfoglio models is currently running low, we should all wait and see where the trends on pricing will go.
The Italian Economy, in general, is in dire straights. A lot of Companies make foolish decisions, when desperation sets in. Sad, really! :(
Predict the Future, I can not! But, so far, the outlook is bleak! :(
https://youtu.be/-KqN3_B4GsA
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Very sad/dark times indeed. But I think we all know who and what causes that. On a totally unrelated subject, I sure hope people vote more than ever in the upcoming elections… :-[
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Predict the Future, I can not! But, so far, the outlook is bleak! :(
and we in the U.S. are on the same path. :(
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I got the Tanfoglio Stock Master from IFG, they are easy to deal with, but they want to charge a fee for cc, so I
just sent a bank check. My pistol is in 45acp, and is easily #1 or maybe #2 next to my Les Baer, haven't decided yet. If you like a big grip, they are really comfortable shooting.
I read earlier forums that said EAA was hard to deal with, I find IFG easy to deal with, and sometimes willing to
negotiate on price on the phone, if you get the right guy.
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It's a pity that Tangfolio/Sarsilmaz models don't have decocker setup, I'd buy one.
One of the primary reasons that I like them is the frame mounted safety and the fact that I can carry them cocked and locked. Though a decocker setup has no appeal to me, I wouldn't mind if they expanded their line.
Overall, it seems that the Tanfoglio pistols are less common on the market than they were and the prices relative to their competition is up.
I’m a thumb safety guy too. I wonder if it’s maybe just a cost thing or lack of demand as to why Tanfo doesn’t offer a decocker model. Also, I believe EAA stopped selling the Tanfoglio line so, as far as I know, there’s only one US outlet, IFG (Italian Firearms Group) out of Amarillo, Texas.
I started my journey to the world of handguns with thumb safety, but eventually moved to decocker (or no safety) guns. I still have and love my thumb safety guns, but my firearm coach (who has multiple NRA and military certifications) convinced me that in the stress situation you should draw your gun and fire without thinking about turning off safety. Needless to say he is Beretta guy :) Another reason is I own Sarsilmaz Mega with "opposite" safety on/off, so it brings more confusion. My recent purchase was Canik TP9DA which is DA/SA gun with decocker despite being stiker gun. I consider it as a carry gun, but need more practice.
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My recent purchase was Canik TP9DA which is DA/SA gun with decocker despite being stiker gun. I consider it as a carry gun, but need more practice.
The Canik TP9DA is an excellent Handgun and the successor to the original Canik TP9V1, the latter which is my current favorite Fall/Winter CCW.
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I bought one of these on a lark without knowing much about it -- except Tanfoglio's reputation and the original model from which this one's cloned.
I had some failure-to-feed issues at first. But it turned out to be a new-mag-spring problem that was fixed by keeping the mags loaded for an extended period.
With the steel frame, it shoots at least as flat as my P-01's and D Compact. I like the factory sights better than CZ's. They're white dots that are much larger than CZ's glow-in-the-dark dots. My only real problem now is that I'm not used to a safety and find myself engaging it occasionally during recoil.
IFG doesn't seem to be supporting this model very well. It took nearly a year after my purchase for it to appear on their website. And they still don't have magazines available on their store.