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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: Shep on July 13, 2009, 03:33:14 AM
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I really owe this comic for getting me interested in the CZ75. If it wasn't for Gunsmith Cats, I probably wouldn't have noticed the $500 first model CZ75 that mysteriously turned up in the gun shop one day. I wonder how many other people got the CZ bug directly or indirectly from this series?
This is the famous page where Rally makes some big claims as to the superiority of the first model. Maybe she's right http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=21656.0
(http://image.bayimg.com/ianaaaaco.jpg)
Hot CZ75 action (from the Japanese version)
(http://image.bayimg.com/hananaaco.jpg)
From the animated series
(http://image.bayimg.com/ianaeaaco.jpg)
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I guess its obvious that I too am a GSC fan. One could also draw conclusions that this anime/manga is what started my interest in the original CZ-75 as well. There are a few threads that mention the tough metal legend. I recommend you read CM Rich's thread (http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=21656.0) on the tough metal legend.
He is also a GSC fan. Unfortunately he hasn't been active here for a few months. Anyone know what happened to him? I loved his posts. ???
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So does anyone here have a picture of a short slide original 75? All the pre Bs I have seen have the normal long slide.
Thanks,
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So does anyone here have a picture of a short slide original 75? All the pre Bs I have seen have the normal long slide.
Thanks,
There are a few pictures in this thread http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=2459.0
(http://bayimg.com/image/iaajdaaco.jpg)
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There are a few threads that mention the tough metal legend. I recommend you read CM Rich's thread (http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=21656.0) on the tough metal legend.
I did read it, I had a link in my original post :D
It's what inspired me to search for and post that page from the comic.
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I guess its obvious that I too am a GSC fan. One could also draw conclusions that this anime/manga is what started my interest in the original CZ-75 as well. There are a few threads that mention the tough metal legend. I recommend you read CM Rich's thread (http://www.czforumsite.info/index.php?topic=21656.0) on the tough metal legend.
He is also a GSC fan. Unfortunately he hasn't been active here for a few months. Anyone know what happened to him? I loved his posts. ???
Hi!
And yes, GSC directly influenced my gun lust, going back as far as 1996 or so when the anime was first released on VHS. Then I got into the manga, which was far more detailed in its gunapolloza. I instantly became fascinated with handguns, and to no suprise, the first gun I bought was a brand new 75B, and soon thereafter, a vintage '78.
While I've expanded my range of gun lust (I'm now building a replica of Big Boss's custom M1911 from Snake Eater), the old CZ 75 and Gunsmith Cats will always carry alot of sentimental weight with me. Both are extremely well crafted works that compliment each other well.
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Wow, and I thought I was the only one out there. New to the group here, I'm still looking for a CZ75 Pre B. Thanks for posting the comic. I didn't know Rally Vincent carried the early short slide. And here I was wondering if she had wood or plastic grips.
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The Comics and Pre-B's are nice. I had heard about some of the Spanish Metallurgy problem guns and some of the early Italian and Swiss CZ Clones had copied the CZ75 so well, they inherited some of those Metallurgy problems with too high a Nickel Content added into the mix.
Here's a few Gunsmith Cat Video's posted on Youtube:
Car Chase
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwutvCCwwFE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwutvCCwwFE)
Dangerous Little Girls (Smokin!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGTapJz3Wuk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGTapJz3Wuk)
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When I turned 21, I went down to the local gun shop to check out the used handguns. They had a Beretta 96, and a CZ 85 "A". The CZ fit me better, and was cheaper, so that was that.
A month or so later I saw an episode of GSC on late-night tv, and was super-stoked to discover that my weird little pistol had some cool history and a dedicated following.
I've loved both of them ever since!
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/bwinavw/IMG_2911.jpg)
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Don't forget Gunslinger girl, specifically the girl named Rico. She carries a Pre B.
(http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3879/cz75v22zc.gif)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/c/ca/GunslingerGirl_rcz1.jpg/500px-GunslingerGirl_rcz1.jpg)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/06/GSG5.jpg/400px-GSG5.jpg)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/b/ba/GGIIT-CZ75.jpg/400px-GGIIT-CZ75.jpg)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/f/fd/Rico75.jpg/400px-Rico75.jpg)
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(http://comicreadersregina.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/gunsmith-cats-revised-1.jpg)
By the way, can anybody identify this holster? or if it even exists?
Looks pretty nice.
strictly speaking about the holster, of course.
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Another of Rally's holsters
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I must admit, this series played a role in stoking the embers for my CZ interest. The enertainment industry certainly can influence the, "coolness factor," of certain firearms. Just my luck that the CZ75 is a lot more useful than some of my other Hollywood guns - I would never carry my Desert Eagle 50, .44 S&W 29-2! Do have an older 92F though thanks to any numerous 80's action flicks, but it's a bit too fat for my liking to carry. Also got a couple of SPAS12's; mean-looking shotguns, but too complicated and heavy.
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I'd never heard of Gunsmith Cats or Rally Vincent before acquiring my first CZ pistol, nor do I care for comic books, graphic novels or whatever you choose to call them. I have to say though, Gunsmith Cats rock.
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Let's not forget the character of Barnette Orangello from the anim? series Vandread and her trusty pre-B CZ 75:
(http://webpages.charter.net/dlwh/Vandread_CZ75_1.jpg)
(http://webpages.charter.net/dlwh/Vandread_CZ75_3.jpg)
Now that's +P++++ ammo! Hope she's got a Wolff 22 lb. recoil spring and a recoil buffer in her 75. ;D
(http://webpages.charter.net/dlwh/Vandread_CZ75_2.jpg)
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Saw Rally in Gunsmith Cats and Riding Bean long before a CZ came into my life. Never equated the two until rewatching some old anime years later.
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Another of Rally's holsters
what would you even call a rig like that?
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I am amazed there is a comic and cartoon that features the original CZ75. Let alone one from Japan. :o
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Does anyone know how old the, "Burst," series of the comic are? They're fairly recent stateside, but I have no idea how old they are over in Japan.
Mainly curious because there's a scene I found where Rally is trying to sell a CZ 75 to a cop friend, but is offering the 2nd gen pre-B (which she doesn't badmouth quite as much this time around), rather than the current generation of CZ 75B of which seems missing from the series so far.
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Does anyone know how old the, "Burst," series of the comic are? They're fairly recent stateside, but I have no idea how old they are over in Japan.
Mainly curious because there's a scene I found where Rally is trying to sell a CZ 75 to a cop friend, but is offering the 2nd gen pre-B (which she doesn't badmouth quite as much this time around), rather than the current generation of CZ 75B of which seems missing from the series so far.
I believe they were written in the early nineties. I've read the English manga all the way through and I don't remember that part. ??? I do remember a part where she is trying to help Roy decide which gun to get. I can't remember which one he liked. I thought it was an STI 2011.
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I believe that is the correct chapter in which I was referring to. Anyone got it to scan n' post?
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Does anyone know how old the, "Burst," series of the comic are? They're fairly recent stateside, but I have no idea how old they are over in Japan.
Mainly curious because there's a scene I found where Rally is trying to sell a CZ 75 to a cop friend, but is offering the 2nd gen pre-B (which she doesn't badmouth quite as much this time around), rather than the current generation of CZ 75B of which seems missing from the series so far.
I believe they were written in the early nineties. I've read the English manga all the way through and I don't remember that part. ??? I do remember a part where she is trying to help Roy decide which gun to get. I can't remember which one he liked. I thought it was an STI 2011.
GSC (the original) was from the early to mid 90s.
BURST is very recent, only completed ~2 years ago now.
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I never heard of Gunsmith Cats until I started surfing the web. I thought it funny that a comic series influenced people to the degree that they repeated the claim of early CZs having the hardest metal of any modern firearms.
As an aside, I got interested in CZs after reading about them in a magazine called Soldier of Fortune. They used to do a lot of reporting on the wars in Rhodesia, South Africa, Mozambique and such. Some of the articles mentioned the high price commanded by CZs.
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Found it! Here she is trying to sell a pre-B 2nd generation. No scanner, so we get crappy iPhone pictures. :P
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/HocklerMP5/IMG_0741.jpg)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/HocklerMP5/IMG_0742.jpg)
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I see the CZ75 brings a smile to her face...like it does mine every time I go to the range...
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The holster's rally used in the OAV is the galco small.of.back holster and a double horizontal magazin carrier as well as a Miami classic shoulder holster
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Hello guys, CZ forum newbie here. I just finished reading the very last volume of GSC Burst and it reignited my interest in getting a CZ-75 short rail classic, something I've wanted for over 16 years since Gunsmith Cats first debuted.
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Welcome aboard. But good luck in your quest; it took me close to a decade of on and off hunting before I located one (here in fact) in nice shape. So you've come to the right place at least. :)
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Thanks for the welcome. I'll be on the search for a while, I have a feeling. But I'm young and have all the time in the world. ;D
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Save up your money and keep searching, eventually you'll succeed in finding one.
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Now that I have my '80 back (refinished bbl + trigger), I did the, "tap test." It certainly sounds different from my '79, but that's all I can say. Since they're of different dimensions and amount of metal used (more in the long rail's frame up front) I can't confirm any, "super hard metal theory," 100%. I will however say that both are solidly built and accurate every time I've taken them out! ;D
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Now that I have my '80 back (refinished bbl + trigger), I did the, "tap test." It certainly sounds different from my '79, but that's all I can say. Since they're of different dimensions and amount of metal used (more in the long rail's frame up front) I can't confirm any, "super hard metal theory," 100%. I will however say that both are solidly built and accurate every time I've taken them out! ;D
This calls for a video experiment. let's see what the pro tek sounds like too :D