A poster on another board stated he gets sub 1 inch groups at 25 yards with his CZ pistols. Lacking a Ransom Rest or simple sand bags, I am not likely to replicate this feat, :o, but next time I get out there, I will see how well I CAN do at 25 yards with a couple of pistols, probably P01, PCR and maybe the venerable Smith Model 10 for flavor. ;D All will be shot standing, two hand hold.
Anyone here get 1" at 25 yards with thier CZ pistols?
Anyone here get 1" at 25 yards with thier CZ pistols?
I can generally put fifty rounds into two inches at twentyfive yards, with a flier or two.
but I say how realistic is shooting controlled slow shots in a real life situation?
OK, here's what we have. Two sidearms, CZ P01, with three different loads, and Smith Model 10-8 with one load. Let's get rockin'.
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Well, I wanted to, but I picked a bad day to go. Sun was hidden, lower temperatures, but I found the Gnat Family reunion spot. Do you know your sight picture changes when a gnat lands on your front sight? I had to keep the camera shut down most of the time - didn't want a gnat inside the lens cover! I had forgotten how much I hate those little things.
I always post true pics/targets, so here we have some interesting groups. First, my venerable Smith 38 Spl 4", great revolver. I can definitely hit what I am aiming at this way.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/range%20trip/P01at25yardsSmithtarget.jpg)
What does my lifeline, my companion, my P01 do for me?
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/range%20trip/P01at25yards.jpg)
What the heck is that....same load shown here...
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Different load/bullet. Different target, trying lower ink use stuff.
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Not bad, I can score Expert on my Department range with it. :)
So what now? Have some ammo left over, let's do something ridiculous, something I haven't done in a long time. Mad Minute. OK, not really, I don't want to keep shooting for a full minute, and I don't have a soft carpet to let my ejected magazines fall on. Yes, I do try to keep them nice.;)
I recently applied to get my Smith on the carry roster for work, so let's practice some reloads. I haven't done the Ayoob revolver reload drill in a long time, was surprised it came back so easily. I got set up to shoot as fast as I could at a target, just for kicks.Now, this is what I was shooting at. You MAY notice something odd...
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That's right, a BLUE B27. Go figure, FFL ordered them by mistake.
So fire rapid fire, reload, dump the cylinder, etc. Not nearly as impressive. So, then I dump a few mag fulls from the P01. The last shots not taped up are the 124 gr cast LRN load this little gun likes.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/range%20trip/madminute.jpg)
Not NEARLY as good, but this wasn't bullseye work!. :D But it was fun!
Oh, rounds fired, 88 from the P01, 70 from the Smith. No malfunctions in the P01, slow or rapid fire, cast or jacketed. Was very disappointed when the lighter hammer fall of double action on the Smith and Wesson 10-8 failed to set off some CCI primers in these older, (2007), 38 Special reloads. Need to go casting tomorrow and get a new batch worked up.
But, there you go, 25 yard workout today. 8)
Here in CRO we shoot ISSF 25 meters match, to be in best 10 you need to shoot more than 90+ in precise and 85+ in rapid and targets are:
http://www.shootingwiki.org/index.php?title=ISSF_Target_25/50M_Precision_Pistol
http://www.shootingwiki.org/index.php?title=ISSF_Target_25M_Rapid_Fire_Pistol
@jameslovesjammie, you are apsolutely right, when shooting precise stance, grip, sight picture and triger control is a must
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/
Here's an example of my shooting at 10 yards (8" black part of target): (New Walther PK380, .380ACP Federal ball ammo)
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It was bloody hot inside the range and as the time there wore on sweat in my eyes really started to take it's toll on my shooting.
I need to work on getting some ammo for my newly acquired CZ52. (read that as save up some money, unemployment sucks)
"Place a fattish coin on the slide just behind the front sight, upright so that it will topple when you move the pistol
Aim at a target in a safe direction (I'm sorry, I'm very safety conscious when it comes to firearms), and squeeze the trigger as you would when shooting at a real target"
I am assuming you mean placing the coin on edge? Do you place the coin perpendicular to the slide or parallel?
Standing a coin on edge and keeping it that way just holding a gun I would imagine is difficult enough... never mind squeezing the trigger.
I'll have to give it a try.
Okay, so i tried it with a nickel, the fattest I could find. And as I thought just aiming the gun with a coin balancing on edge parallel to the aim is difficult, however with that said I was able to pull the trigger of my SP01 in SA without the coin falling until after the click of the hammer. Was using a 2 hand hold while the wife placed the coin on the slide. In DA, no chance. At least not yet... I can't wait till I get the trigger-worked shadow ;)