Understand that this pistol shoots 9mm Makarov ammo, not the more common 9mm Luger round. Shooting Luger ammo in the -82 cold be disasterous. Mak rounds are slightly shorter but larger in diameter.This, I knew. 9mm Mak is easily available around here...I've already checked. Heck, there's even a CheaperThanDirt outlet in this general area.
The most obvious weak point, to me at least, is the grips. Because they use a single screw attachment and no other pin to secure/position them, the grips tend to work loose during firing. The grips also had cracked support strips on both -82s I bought. Nothing that interfered with operation, but I chose to order wood grips from Marschals in Hungary.I was more concerned about mechanical issues, like the decocker. I've read that it can be an issue, or that the hammer can drop, but what do I actually look for when inspecting it?
The CZ-82 uses the same part as the -83, the exception being the barrel and the slide lock lever. The -83 has a square trigger guard (which I don't like) but I believe it will fit the -82.It appears that a lot of parts are interchangeable between the 82 and 83, so parts availability should not be an issue. Glad to have that confirmed.
Expect the pistol to be gummed up, many are sprayed with a preservative. It takes a thorough cleaning to get it all out. A can of "non-chlorine" brake cleaner will do the job. Break down the mag(s) also. They can be pretty dirty inside. The bore is larger than a 9mm Luger (.365 to be exact) and you'll probably need a larger brush to clean it. I use a .40 brush with no problems.Field strip cleaning, or total disassembly cleaning? I've read that reassembling the 82 is akin to an IQ test.
Don't be alarmed if it looks like the rifling is all shot out. It will look like a smoothbore. That's normal.Polygonal rifling...Bersa 380 has the same kind of rifling.
Here's a couple of sites that will assist you in maintaining it:*This* will likely be helpful, thank you. And yes, those Marschal grips are beautiful, but let me get the gun, in my hands, first.
http://sailorcurt.blogspot.com/2008/04/cz-82-gunsmithing-part-1.html (http://sailorcurt.blogspot.com/2008/04/cz-82-gunsmithing-part-1.html)
http://myweb.cableone.net/leolani/cz-82-disassembly.html (http://myweb.cableone.net/leolani/cz-82-disassembly.html)
http://www.marschalgrips.com/?content=CZ-models (http://www.marschalgrips.com/?content=CZ-models)
Enjoy your CZ-82 (first of how many more, I wonder?) ;DLet me guess. Run. Run now. Run while I still can.
CZ's are addicting, believe me! ::).
As a side note to some of the info above, the CZ83/82 barrels are exchangeable, just normally a different caliber. CZ occasionally puts out a run of 9x18 makarov 83s but have not seen one in a while. The slide stop is the same, but on the new 83s (ones with the squared trigger guard) they have a different slide stop spring.
This should be interesting. I've purchased something sight unseen, and am already redesigning it, before even having it in my hands. Yep, this project is very me.
They had pimps in them commie countries too? :o
It's very attractive, and it matches your computer very well, indeed. Your refinishing job looks top notch. Who did it?
Anyway, it looks nicely done. I'm guessing that you call it your 9x18 iMak. ;)
I wonder what the Apple hippies would think of that piece?
Well, you did a great job. It looks very professional...and it makes for a pair of iMac/iMak siblings. I can tell what color is your favorite.
Hopefully my -82 will be coming in the next few days. It's been ordered, and I'm getting anxious. Hope I get a good one.
here are some pics of my newly blued CZ
here are some pics of my newly blued CZ
here are some pics of my newly blued CZ
I see you have a different front sight. I may want to do that too. Tell me more geen. Thanks
AI
the grips come from here
http://www.grips4u.net/index.php?cPath=48_65 (http://www.grips4u.net/index.php?cPath=48_65)
All these grips seem to be CNC milled, which means that there are G-Code patterns for them, in existence.
Anyone have access to that G-Code? I've got plans worked up for building a small CNC router for home use, and have most of the parts. I need a reason to actually build it. :)
I've got plans worked up for building a small CNC router for home use, and have most of the parts. I need a reason to actually build it. :)
Wow! Does this mean we can buy same quality grips from you (at lesser prices) when you build your router and get the G-Code? :D
CK I have no idea why you think CZ's are addictive and you should even think you need to run while you had the chance ???I only have about a Doz just ordered 6? I think more plus 1 CZ 550 UCS .308 and a BRNO VZ .338 Magnum. I don't see how that would be construed as an addiction? ::)
So, *does* anyone have access to the g-code? A quick google search turned up a number of gun related code snippets,
and even someone who milled an entire 1911 from scratch, but nothing for the CZ82 grips. But, like I said, it was a
*quick* search.
I could probably help do a google search, if I knew what to look for! ;D
I could probably help do a google search, if I knew what to look for! ;D
G-Code is a series of numerical instructions, stored in a text file, which when run through an interpreter causes the CNC router to move and cut the shape.
That's how CNC works...computer numerical control. Simplicity, itself, really.
It's no different than an etch-a-sketch in principle, and we *all* played with those as kids, right?
That's how CNC works...computer numerical control. Simplicity, itself, really.
It's no different than an etch-a-sketch in principle, and we *all* played with those as kids, right?
Very interesting! Where was all this when I was whittling walking sticks with my pocket knife? ;D
CK here are pics of the back of the grips
So, there is some sculpting on the backs.
Oh well, it should still be relatively simple
to make them, once my CNC is up and running.
For someone like me who used to make/modify semi-auto grips by hand (with the aid of stencils, coping saw and sandpaper), this "relatively simple" CNC process makes me green with envy!!! :(Build a CNC unit yourself, then...if you can make grips with a coping saw and stencils, then you're obviously handy. Far handier than me. A home workshop CNC is what happens, when a computer geek enjoys woodworking...he ends up building a robot to do it!
*I* envy the people like you who can do this stuff by hand, with traditional tools. Definitely a skill that I lack.
In the next few days I'll take possession of a CZ-82, and it will be my very first gun.
ALLWAYS, allways let a good gunsmith check any weapon you pick up from anywhere except a brand spanking new one at the store of your choice, Even then you may need the gun smith to really clean it properly, because depending on just what you buy it may have enough grease in it, on it, and through it to completly redo the underside of a 56 Ford.I'm not sure if he's a *good* gunsmith or not, but he works for a gun manufacturer as a machinist, and gunsmiths on the side. Sounds reasonable to me...and if he approves, it'll be stripped and blued as a Christmas gift. Gotta' start somewhere, right? I'm *completely* green when it comes to this stuff.
So, who makes a good holster for this thing? It didn't come with one.
So, who makes a good holster for this thing? It didn't come with one.
Do you have to ask? Really? ;D
He just ran a raffle you and I both joined! :D
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Do you have to ask? Really? ;D
He just ran a raffle you and I both joined! :D
I know CZ-USA sells a cheap leather shoulder holster for it, but they're closed for new year's inventory.
some noticeable wear on mine...some looseness and wear on the slide
and the barrel which might warrant an exchange. A thorough cleaning is
definitely in order...and then we'll see how it does.
The -82/83 is a fixed-barrel firearm and slide "looseness" will have no effect on operation or accuracy, unlike the 1911s and such that depend on barrel "lockup" for accuracy. The -82's loose slide contributes to its reliability. Slight wear on the barrel from the spring is pretty normal for a heavily used -82.
Some ball ammo (FMJ) will most likely smooth it out and will be more fun than applying elbow grease.
The final statement he made was that, if I want to get rid of it in the future, he wants first dibs. That made me feel good.
I'm much happier, now.
Next step is to find some ammo, and some place to shoot.
This was my first try at stripping and rebluing it.
Normally when a hammer falls is rest on the slide and/or firing pin after it hits the firing pin,
but these pistols actually pull back from the slide after hitting the firing pin about 1/8".
Going shopping for ammo, today. :)
. . . and reconfirms to me that asking (Mrs.) Santa for a CZ 82 and (son of) Santa for a set of wood grips were the right things to do!