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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: fisban on December 12, 2012, 12:26:12 PM
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Hey all, I'm new to the forum and wanted to post a range report and first impressions of my first gun purchase, the c-100. I got the full hard chrome version online and it should be on it's way as soon as the seller get the money order ;D. Of course, I'll also be posting pictures to go along with my report. I'm thinking about taking some classes and trying out some IDPA when I get the chance. Does anyone know how long an FFL transfer takes on average by any chance?
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So I got my tristar c-100 today and my first impressions are overwhelmingly positive. The slight contours of the grips fit my hands like they were molded from them. The finish looks amazing in person. There are some small tooling marks visible, but the marks are relatively insignificant. The sights are a yellowish color and apparently glow in the dark. If I was going to upgrade anything it would most likely be the sights for some green tru-glow or HiViz sights. Here are some pics of the gun tear down for cleaning.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/35inor9.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2natkzm.jpg)
Will report back after taking it to the range. Can't wait!
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Alright, so I took my c-100 (canik 55) out to the range today to test it out. This thing is a very smooth shooter. The trigger is very nice, although with a little more take up them I would like. The recoil on this gun is practically non-existent. It feels almost like shooting a 22. I need some more practice with it, but I shot it much better than the S&W m&p I shot recently. I've noticed that the slide seems to be much more difficult to rack when the magazine is out. I assume that this is normal. I experienced no jams or malfunctions in the 50 rounds of federal classic 115 grain that I shot.
Shooting melons, and pomegranates resulted in a very satisfying fruit explosion. Actually, I think I may still have some on me. I'll be heading out again soon with a colored target with me so I'll be able to post pictures of that when I get back.
If anyone has any shooting tips for a newish shooter, don't hesitate to let me know!
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Welcome to the Forum and Congratulations on your new Tri-Star C-100! 8)
As for FFL Transfers, time will depend upon the laws in your State. Typically, here in the Peoples Republik of Illinois, it's three days wait and during that time, a background check is run by the State Police.
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Hello and welcome to the forum from Texas. Congrats on your first handgun purchase. The C-100 is a very nice CZ clone made by Sarslimaz in Turkey.
As far as the FFL transfer, here in Texas it costs me $30 and about 20 minutes of my time. I fill out the ATF Form 4473, the FFL makes the phone call to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and once he is given the OK, I pay the transfer fee and I leave with my new firearm.
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Please do report your opinion on the C-100, as I am thinking of getting one myself. And, congrats on your purshase.
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The C-100 is a very nice CZ clone made by Sarslimaz in Turkey.
Canik 55 in Turkey.
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Thanks for the info guys! I still need the money order to get to the seller. I'm in Washington State and he's in South Carolina so it might take awhile. I did already get a background check done for my CPL. Does that mean that they wont have to do a second background check when I pick it up? I've heard that's how it works, but I'm not sure. Either way can't wait to get my hands on it.
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Fishban, You will still have to go thru the Fed check, depends how busy they are with the checks. Most times they answer right away, because you have a Washington State permit the state waiting period is waved. So you may be good to go as soon as you do the paperwork...Enjoy the Canik, it is cool...Spad
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Fishban, You will still have to go thru the Fed check, depends how busy they are with the checks.
If he has a valid carry license at the time of the transfer, then the FFL doesn't have to do a background check. I literally have never once had a background check performed on me when buying a pistol. I'm sure they did a good check when I got/renewed my carry permit.
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Sounds good! Thanks again for the info.
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The C-100 is a very nice CZ clone made by Sarslimaz in Turkey.
Canik 55 in Turkey.
Oops my bad ::)
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Bret, I don't know where you live,but everytime I have purchased a gun in Washington State, even though I have multiple concealed permits,the FFL still had to do the FED thing and wait for thier response, kinda stupid if you ask me,but you can't argue......Bill
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Bill, it looks like Washington has some extra hoops for you to jump in. I guess that I should have stated that federal law doesn't require a background check for carry permit holders. Bottom line, it depends on where you live.
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scooter01,
I purchased a Tristar C100 several months ago and am very pleased. It has not a failure so far and is a joy to shoot. The one thing I did notice is that it does not like my light reloads, the target looks like a shotgun patterning board. However, with normal loads it shoots very tight groups. Now I am thinking of buying another.
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New member here. :) Bought a C-100 from Academy in Sugar Land on 12/6 (not my first handgun ;)). I posted some pics on TaurusArmed.net, and will repost them here if anybody's interested. I've only put 100 rounds through the C-100, but I really like it so far. They're still $299.99.
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New member here. :) Bought a C-100 from Academy in Sugar Land on 12/6 (not my first handgun ;)). I posted some pics on TaurusArmed.net, and will repost them here if anybody's interested. I've only put 100 rounds through the C-100, but I really like it so far. They're still $299.99.
I think I may have read your post over there when I was looking up all the reviews I could find for the c-100. I'm addicted to looking up info on it until it gets here ;D. Does anyone know for sure if the frame is a steel alloy or aluminum? I think the website says steel alloy, but I've read it both ways. Would you care to clarify for me? Also, I may some day try to do a DIY trigger job on mine. I really like DIY projects and I think it would be a fun way to become acquainted with the inner workings of the pistol. Does anyone know where I could find a guide for doing a trigger job for the c-100?
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Bill, it looks like Washington has some extra hoops for you to jump in. I guess that I should have stated that federal law doesn't require a background check for carry permit holders. Bottom line, it depends on where you live.
In New Hampshire, because we are a 'shall issue' state, we still have to do the NICS check. Usually takes 20 minutes.
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New member here. :) Bought a C-100 from Academy in Sugar Land on 12/6 (not my first handgun ;)). I posted some pics on TaurusArmed.net, and will repost them here if anybody's interested. I've only put 100 rounds through the C-100, but I really like it so far. They're still $299.99.
Welcome to the forum. Sugar Land, Texas? I'm in Tyler (East Texas). 8)
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Does anyone know for sure if the frame is a steel alloy or aluminum? I think the website says steel alloy, but I've read it both ways.
I held a C-100 at Academy when they first came out. They're very light. 1.95 lbs according to their website. Definitely an aluminum alloy like the CZ P-01.
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Does anyone know where I could find a guide for doing a trigger job for the c-100?
Follow the directions for a CZ-75, the C-100 is a very close copy (not exact).
I lightened the main spring (CZ part) and installed an 85 combat trigger. No other mods needed.
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In New Hampshire, because we are a 'shall issue' state, we still have to do the NICS check. Usually takes 20 minutes.
Georgia's a shall issue state and carry permit holders don't have to go through the NICS check, so that's not it. I do remember that there was a short period of time where Georgia carry permit holders had to go through the NICS, but the state fixed whatever the issue was and it went back to not having to go through the NICS.
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In New Hampshire, because we are a 'shall issue' state, we still have to do the NICS check. Usually takes 20 minutes.
Georgia's a shall issue state and carry permit holders don't have to go through the NICS check, so that's not it. I do remember that there was a short period of time where Georgia carry permit holders had to go through the NICS, but the state fixed whatever the issue was and it went back to not having to go through the NICS.
On this FBI web page (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/poc) an asterisk "denotes states that have an ATF-qualified alternate permit ." It isn't whether your state is shall-issue, but whether the Fibbies approve your state's licensing procedures that allows CHL holders to bypass NICS. Georgia and Texas both have asterisks.
Before I got my CHL, NICS routinely put me on hold, allegedly because I have a common name, even when I gave my Social Security Number. Of course, I have no idea how many illegal aliens might be sharing my SSN. ::)
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Permanent Brady Permit Chart
Prepared by: ATF Office of Enforcement Programs and Services.
Last updated: August 26, 2011
Note: Notwithstanding the dates set forth below, permits qualify as alternatives to the background check requirements of the Brady law for no more than 5 years from the date of issuance. The permit must be valid under State law in order to qualify as a Brady alternative.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/brady-law/permit-chart.html
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Does anyone know where I could find a guide for doing a trigger job for the c-100?
Wow! Before you've even seen it? Well, as chimera8 said, you should be able to the instructions for the CZ-75, and wing it where your pistol differs from a CZ. AGI has a video armorer's course (http://www.amazon.com/CZ-75-Witness-Pistols-Armorers-Course/dp/B004WL1UX4/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1355623790&sr=1-1&keywords=american+gunsmithing+institute+cz-75) on the CZ-75, and there's stuff all over YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cz+75+disassembly&oq=cz-75+di&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0i33.1486.4627.0.7001.6.6.0.0.0.0.458.1341.1j3j1j0j1.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.Fw7ZXNLgUJ8). There's even a guy who suggests a simple way to avoid having your springs and plungers fly off into space.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnVwdH9r6uE)
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Permanent Brady Permit Chart
Prepared by: ATF Office of Enforcement Programs and Services.
Last updated: August 26, 2011
Note: Notwithstanding the dates set forth below, permits qualify as alternatives to the background check requirements of the Brady law for no more than 5 years from the date of issuance. The permit must be valid under State law in order to qualify as a Brady alternative.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/brady-law/permit-chart.html
I bow to your superior google skills, Jim. :)
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Sounds good. As long as I can get it same day I'll be a happy camper. I should be able to pick it up tomorrow, so I'll edit my first post for first impressions when I get it. ;D
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I also wanted to comment with my experience with using Cabela's as an FFL. I'm not sure whether or not I should edit the original post with this anecdote as it is not directly related to my experiences with the firearm. Mods, if this post would be better suited as an edit to my original post feel free to let me know.
So, I used Cabela's as my FFL after being told by the employees that it was a $25 transfer. Originally I was going to have a friend of mine do the transfer, but I couldn't contact him, so I used Cabela's. Unfortunately, when I finally got the paperwork done they charged me $50 for the transfer and about $30 for sales tax (I live in Washington state). It took about 3 hours to finish the background check and paperwork because they were so busy. The customer service people were friendly and professional and I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I've worked in retail and understand how frustrating and stressful it can be. However, due to the insane transfer price, I definitely will not be using them for FFL transfers in the future.
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That's bogus that they charged you sales tax - you didn't buy the gun from them. Even if you bought it from an instate dealer and had it shipped in, you would pay the dealer you bought it from the sales tax, not the transferring FFL.
I'd call a manager and get that refunded, or rat them out to the state Dept. of Revenue as making fraudulent sales tax charges.
joe
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When I order firearms online and transfer them through my LGS they only charge me a flat $30 fee. Cash preferred. 8)
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Some local areas have laws which require an FFL doing a transfer to collect sales tax on transfers. I seem to remember Washington state was one of them, but that's really pushing my memory.
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Washington state you pay the sales tax to the transferring party now. Last year the gov's people :(found another place to get money. I pay $30.00 for the transfer out in the desert outpost (eastern Washington). Enjoy the Canik...Bill
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Washington state you pay the sales tax to the transferring party now. Last year the gov's people :(found another place to get money. I pay $30.00 for the transfer out in the desert outpost (eastern Washington). Enjoy the Canik...Bill
Ya, I have a much better resource for an FFL that I will definitely be using the next time I need one.
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welcome, nice gun
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welcome, nice gun
Thanks, and merry xmas everyone!
I was thinking about eventually getting a holster from N82 tactical for it. They look like really nice holsters for the money, but I'm not sure which size would be correct for this gun. I would assume that it would be the compact model in the original model. Does anyone here have any experience with n82 tactical holsters?
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The C-100 is equal in size to the CZ 75 Compact.
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The C-100 is equal in size to the CZ 75 Compact.
Ya, I'm thinking about getting the pro carry Lt holster, for the glock 19, for it. I'm on a very tight budget and at $20 the price is right.
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cZ Compact and C100 side by side.
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa59/tekarra_photo/P8180019.jpg)