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GENERAL => General Firearms Discussion => Topic started by: IDescribe on October 01, 2014, 05:42:29 PM
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So this happened earlier today 8) 8) 8)
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Dressed her with an Aimpoint Patrol Rifle Optic. I have about 100 rounds of Federal American Eagle 62gr FMJ through her, and so far so good. She shoots straight. Very happy.
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Should have mentioned in the first post:
This is a Daniel Defense V11 with an 18" 5.56 1:7 barrel. The contour is a Daniel Defense proprietary that they call S2W, which stands for "Strength to Weight". Like all Daniel defense barrels, this one is cold hammer forged. However, whereas all other Daniel Defense barrels are chrome-lined, their 18" S2W barrel is melonite finished. The forearm grip is keymod, which among other things, allows for a narrower grip than the standard quad rails. And I think that covers the basic specs.
Again, very happy. ;)
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Very nice, you picked a good one!
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Love Daniel Defense products. Want. One. Or two. 8)
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Nice
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Very very Nice! 8) Congratulations and may it serve you well! :)
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Very Nice Purchase. Congrats!
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Nice!
How do you like the stock? I love the looks of it and was thinking of using it in a lighter weight build.
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What're you going to use it for? 3gun, sage rats, range toy?
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More specs:
The gas block is rifle length.
That S2W barrel profile is supposed to be the best combination of rigidity and weight, beefy in the rear, but narrower toward the front. A picture of the profile:
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The stock trigger breaks at 7lbs 9oz. It feels better than my buddy's M&P's stock trigger, but not by much. I suspect it's on the nice side of typical. Despite the heavy break, I don't mind the trigger, but I will replace it as soon as I decide to go with a more typical 2-stage Geissele or their gamer S3G or SD3G.
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How do you like the stock? I love the looks of it and was thinking of using it in a lighter weight build.
I can't claim to have enough time behind M4's to give credible opinions on stocks, but I can tell you a few things. It's comfortable. I would imagine that the little rubber "cheek weld plate" (don't know what DD calls it) works to some degree to give you a better cheek weld, but I don't actually notice it's there. Just to be sure you know what I'm referencing:
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The other thing I would note is that the release to expand or collapse it is easy to manipulate. I fiddled with it to see how it worked, then I expanded and collapsed it several times without looking at what I was doing, and now I can find it and actuate it without looking. And it's out of the way in a way that I don't see actuating it by accident. So fairly good from my limited perspective.
AND it looks sharp. 8) The gun store where I bought it has 100+ M4s on the wall, and that stock makes the Daniel Defense rifles stand out from the others.
Another option -- I know from my reading that a lot of the 3-Gun guys looking to reduce weight use the ACE skeletal stock (non-collapsible), so you might want to check out that one, too.
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What're you going to use it for? 3gun, sage rats, range toy?
All of the above? ;)
Smitty, I am going to outfit it for 3-Gun, and once I have the experience to know what I want different, I'll start building a dedicated 3-Gun rifle and return this one to general purpose status.
Truth be told, I bought the Aimpoint because I haven't decided yet what 1-4 gamer scope I want, and I didn't want to risk buying a scope I would be unsatisfied with and want to replace immediately when I could buy an Aimpoint that I would have a use for otherwise when I get the scope I want. Unfortunately, I realized 5 minutes into my first bit of range time with the rifle that I was going to need a magnified optic sooner than later if I wanted to squeeze as much accuracy as possible out of load development, so I need to either figure out what gamer scope I want in a hurry, or I need to get a picatinny mount for one of my 1" tubes.
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Nice! I hear Ruger is coming out with a AR 15 in the $500 range. Can't wait to see it.
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That is one sharp looking AR. Congratulations Destinett. Sure you will enjoy it.
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Wow. My bad. I meant "Sharp AR IDescribe" Sorry. Was a long day at work :o
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;)
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What're you going to use it for? 3gun, sage rats, range toy?
All of the above? ;)
Smitty, I am going to outfit it for 3-Gun, and once I have the experience to know what I want different, I'll start building a dedicated 3-Gun rifle and return this one to general purpose status.
Truth be told, I bought the Aimpoint because I haven't decided yet what 1-4 gamer scope I want, and I didn't want to risk buying a scope I would be unsatisfied with and want to replace immediately when I could buy an Aimpoint that I would have a use for otherwise when I get the scope I want. Unfortunately, I realized 5 minutes into my first bit of range time with the rifle that I was going to need a magnified optic sooner than later if I wanted to squeeze as much accuracy as possible out of load development, so I need to either figure out what gamer scope I want in a hurry, or I need to get a picatinny mount for one of my 1" tubes.
Don't get a 1X4. Get a 1X6. My son has a Primary Arms. If you can find one, they are great to start on. The next upgrade beyond that is over $1k.
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Don't get a 1X4. Get a 1X6. My son has a Primary Arms.
Why not 1-4? I have no personal preference as I have not shot a rifle set up for this purpose and am more or less judging by what is commonly used. I would think that 1-4 would be good out to 300-400 yds, and the rare targets out to 600 doable, no? I can get good 1-4 scopes in the 600 - 800 range, while a good 1-6 is 1000-1400. I'll even look into a magnifier for a red dot. Either a 3x or a 2-5. A 3-gun shooter I was talking to at the store where I bought the rifle runs a Trijicon Accupoint 1-4x, keeps the Trijicon on 3x as a default, flips it up to 4x when he needs it, and uses BUIS at 45 degrees for CQ. That setup seems to be a fairly common theme in my reading.
Have you seen that big an advantage in the 6x?
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I have the nikon M-223, 1-4, and I works great for fast shots out to 300. It's not for pin-point accuracy, but it gets'm on target! The glass is clear and the turrets work great, but I'm not so happy with the reticle I picked. They have a single dot point-blank range and a bullet drop reticle. I picked the bullet drop, oops!. The 223 ballistics are so flat out to 300 that the hash marks are too close and too fine to pick up quickly. Wish I would have gone with a dot and used a combat zero, then just hold over or under (like you do with open sights), or if I have the time use the turret adjustments.
I also have the Primary Arms 1-6 with the 300 blackout reticle and like the magnification range and apparent build quality. The reticle seems busy and too complicated for a low tech guy like me! I can't say how it works because it hasn't made it to the range yet :'(
If you want to try the 45 offset sights check out the eBay cheapie for $20. They had a sale with free shipping, I was tired, might have had a beer or three when I ordered.. anyway the point is the build quality is amazing for the price point. Another disclaimer; I have only played with these at my bench and have not used them at the range, but don't see any problem with them for an occasional close up shot. (In my defense I haven't been to the range in a while because it has been hellishly hot here and I'm not the A-man - been a lot busy too)