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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: dbarn on August 31, 2016, 07:57:28 PM
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Already have and love the SP-01 tactical that came with TruDot night sights.
I now have green P-01 on the way and have done much research. The only complaint I'm repeatedly reading are how bad the sights are.
Are they really that bad? For those who have upgraded to night sights, does the POA/POI change much? Are you doing the work yourself, or using a gunsmith? Do you send in the slide or whole gun?
I do not have a rear sight pusher and I'm hearing the rear sight is a bear to remove.
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I hope they're better than the PCR's. I've had 4 front sights and 3 rear sights on mine in the past 6 months. Installed what will hopefully be my last set tonight.
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For my PCR ... what I ended up doing was scraping out the ate-up "glow paint" that came default and replacing it w/ a few coats of chartreuse nail polish. I couldn't be happier.
I hope they're better than the PCR's. I've had 4 front sights and 3 rear sights on mine in the past 6 months. Installed what will hopefully be my last set tonight.
What sights did you use, and why did you not like them? Which is the set that is hopefully your last?
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My P-06 came with Meps and they seem fine. If the P-01 comes with the same sights that my 75 c came with, I would say change them immediately.
I put Meps on the 75c, same as the P-06.
I've been wanting a green P-01.
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I just used some white Testors model paint on the dots. Works better now. The stock glow paint is too dull to really add any contrast.
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My P-01's have stock dot sights except for 1 which I changed to Mepro nights sights...only because I found a great offer on the sights.
For me, the stock sights are fine for day time shooting...I don't really focus on the dots...more the front/rear profile.
When I did change to night sights the POA/POI didn't change...just make sure you sights of the correct height!
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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like the Meps may be the way to go. For those who have swapped over, are you just sending in the slide or do they need the pistol to verify POA/POI?
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Shooting my battered factory p-01 with ages of abuse on it since '02 manufacture and police use.... I have to say the front is horrible for accurate poi, but the rear isn't too horrible for tactical use. The faded dark grey dots on the faded dark metal sight makes for an easy way to pick up the front. Now my eyes are not perfect but I don't wear prescriptions. Either way I don't normally keep any factory sights unless they're actually something great. I always get rid of them... I've got good use out of tfos, trijicons, mepros, and some custom stuff like Novaks for my 1911s and some Dawsons and heinies as well. It's all for which purpose you need and what applications are available without cutting the slide. If anyone has had good sights on their cz75, it would be the straight 8s I've handled on a couple of custom shop guns. They're real nice.
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They are really really hard for me to see in all but the best conditions. I'm going to try some neon model paint to see if that helps.
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Thanks for the replies. Sounds like the Meps may be the way to go. For those who have swapped over, are you just sending in the slide or do they need the pistol to verify POA/POI?
If you are not comfortable doing it yourself (hammer and a piece of wood, or something non-scratching)...leave entire pistol with local gunsmith. As far I know, they only center the sights on the slide...no actual verification of POA/POI...that comes after when you go to the range :)
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Mine are without doubt the worst three dot sites of all my pistols... at least until I painted them white. Now they're just OK.
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I ordered the Meps on Amazon and had my LGS put them on. Then I read here about variation in height.
But poi is the same so lucky me.
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I didn't like the stock P-01 sights so I had a local gunsmith install a set of Dawson Precision night sights. The cost difference between DPs and Mepros is negligible IMO.
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Received my pistol today. Man what a great feeling pistola. The test target is better than my SP-01.
You guys were right though, my 50 year old eyesight was having nothing to do with the stock sights.
Didn't even shoot it. :( Immediately removed slide and sent to CGW for Mepros.
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I didn't like the stock P-01 sights so I had a local gunsmith install a set of Dawson Precision night sights. The cost difference between DPs and Mepros is negligible IMO.
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Could you share your experience with the model of Dawsons you chose and how well you shoot them on the p-01? Thank you. Also, a photo may help... Maybe a sight picture if you could be so kind? Haha thank you
Using Tapatalk as recommended by the welcome wagon. This DOES make photos easy to use instead of having to host them.
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to me the factory small glow dots are pretty bad!
I had David install a set of Meps on it as its my carry weapon and I have a SP-01 Tac and 97 BD that had the same sights.
so I got the same sight picture with all three, the POA-POI did not change one bit from the factory sights.
and yep, MY P-01 shoots just as accurately as my SP-01, at least out to 25 yards,.
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Could you share your experience with the model of Dawsons you chose and how well you shoot them on the p-01? Thank you. Also, a photo may help... Maybe a sight picture if you could be so kind? Haha thank you
Sure. DawsonPrecision.com (http://DawsonPrecision.com) has a page for CZ sets at: https://dawsonprecision.com/sights/cz/dawson-fixed-sets/ (https://dawsonprecision.com/sights/cz/dawson-fixed-sets/)
I chose the "Dawson Precision CZ P-01 Carry Fixed Sight Set - Tritium Rear & Tritium Front" for $118. They shipped the sights in a padded envelope and included an allen wrench and a punch.
pics:
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Thanks for the pictures of your hardware... Do you find the need for the rear dots less than just a front? I've been all over the place with fixed sights on carry stuff. Certain guns I just don't want anything in the rear detracting my eye from the front dot. BUT for carry I haven't figure out my most preferred sights config as of yet. I have all sorts of stuff on my carry guns and I haven't been able to really decide what works best for multitude of lighting situations and such... Years and years spent just putting sights on pistols and shooting them in hopes of never having to draw down on a perp. I have stuff setup just like yours and it's still what I have more pistols setup like. Tritium front and rear. Some with the tfo and tfx... Some all black rear and a front that pops, and those are mostly what I like for steel and range time.
4th Brigade 10th Mountain Div.
2-30 Infantry Batt.
Wild Boars - Forged for War
TF Storm Logar, Afghanistan OEF 10/11
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Bonkhead,
Does the front sight from Dawson has the cut for the pin already? I was told that the Meprolight does not and I'm considering the Dawsons if it does. Tnx
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Thanks for the pictures of your hardware... Do you find the need for the rear dots less than just a front? I've been all over the place with fixed sights on carry stuff. Certain guns I just don't want anything in the rear detracting my eye from the front dot. BUT for carry I haven't figure out my most preferred sights config as of yet. I have all sorts of stuff on my carry guns and I haven't been able to really decide what works best for multitude of lighting situations and such... Years and years spent just putting sights on pistols and shooting them in hopes of never having to draw down on a perp. I have stuff setup just like yours and it's still what I have more pistols setup like. Tritium front and rear. Some with the tfo and tfx... Some all black rear and a front that pops, and those are mostly what I like for steel and range time.
4th Brigade 10th Mountain Div.
2-30 Infantry Batt.
Wild Boars - Forged for War
TF Storm Logar, Afghanistan OEF 10/11
My P-01 is my first firearm, and my second (a Beretta Nano) also has three-dot fixed white sights, do that's all I know to aim with, and I do like using that
I saw on CajunGunWorks.com a sight set that might be what you're looking for - an all-black serrated rear with a fiber-optic front: https://cajungunworks.com/product/ezd-9-40-for-9mm-and-40-sw/ . I understand that FOs are a little fragile so they may not be the best choice for carry. YMMV. Good luck in your quest.
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Bonkhead,
Does the front sight from Dawson has the cut for the pin already? I was told that the Meprolight does not and I'm considering the Dawsons if it does. Tnx
Ad5nd - I had a 'smith install the sights for me do I have no idea if the front was already notched.
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It's not that I was having trouble locating what I wanted. I was having trouble making the decision on which I'm more comfortable with carrying. I don't think I'd leave the house with a competition sight set just because the blacked out rear may make picking up a sight picture in darkened conditions take that extra few tenths of a second one would depend on for presenting. It's just like I always said, I'm not going into competition circumstance making a midnight trip to Walmart for milk or some other random thing my 2yo or wife 'needs' after the sun goes down. Haha but yeah those sights on cgw are actually some good sights. I wouldn't put them on a primary carry gun though.
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For my PCR ... what I ended up doing was scraping out the ate-up "glow paint" that came default and replacing it w/ a few coats of chartreuse nail polish. I couldn't be happier
I hope they're better than the PCR's. I've had 4 front sights and 3 rear sights on mine in the past 6 months. Installed what will hopefully be my last set tonight.
What sights did you use, and why did you not like them? Which is the set that is hopefully your last?
I used bright fluorescent orange on the front sight. That helped quite a bit.
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Got a P01 in the back seat that I just picked up at my lgs. As far as factory sights go they are not that bad imo. Still going to get the Dawson tritiums.
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I am in the process of installing a set of Dawson F/O on my new PO1. My son and I are going to local LEO range Monday or Tuesday so I will see how they are. If I don't like them I may install a set Dawson Trits or get a set of CZC Trits similar to the ones on my PCR (love the white rings for daytime).
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Are they really that bad?
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Yes. The factory sights on the PCR and P-01 are awful, and any purchaser should plan to send them off for something better (I sent mine to Mesa).
Of course, once you have good sights, then you arguably have the perfect compact, so it's well worth it.
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Taking back what I said earlier. They're not good, at least not for an indoor range anyway. Shot mine for the 1st time today and you can't see the sights very well with indoor lights. Maybe they will be better outside but the green front post just fades away to nothing with average indoor lighting. Doesn't matter since I had plans to replace them before I bought the gun.
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to me the factory small glow dots are pretty bad!
I had David install a set of Meps on it as its my carry weapon and I have a SP-01 Tac and 97 BD that had the same sights.
so I got the same sight picture with all three, the POA-POI did not change one bit from the factory sights.
and yep, MY P-01 shoots just as accurately as my SP-01, at least out to 25 yards,.
''MY P-01 shoots just as accurately as my SP-01, at least out to 25 yards," ...really? my experience is just the opposite on my P-01 Omega. The only way I can be accurate with it, even at 7 yrds, is to have a perfect grip and trigger pull. My SP-01 is very accurate and more forgiving. Maybe I'm just a bad shooter.
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Are the rear sight dovetails on the P-01 and the steel frame Compact the same?
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Are the rear sight dovetails on the P-01 and the steel frame Compact the same?
Same slide different roll mark.
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Are they really that bad?
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Yes. The factory sights on the PCR and P-01 are awful, and any purchaser should plan to send them off for something better...
This...
In my view the original P01 sights are the only flaw in an otherwise near-perfect defensive pistol. I have been happily running Meps for over half a decade. As my eyes age I'm thinking about going to XS Big Dots, as I have on my P365.
Cheers
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Truglow TFX sights. trit/FO. buy once cry once. they're awesome
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Truglow TFX sights. trit/FO. buy once cry once. they're awesome
I agree. Have them on my 75b stainless. Only wish they made a rear site that matches the PCR shelf
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Truglow TFX sights. trit/FO. buy once cry once. they're awesome
My experience with Truglo TFX Sights on the P01 and P01 Omega is they SHOOT LOW at 7 and 15 yards from a pistol rest using 124 grain ammo with a Combat Sight Picture (Front dot on desired POI). Dawsons shoot to POA. Truglo's website it not specific on CZ pistols.
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Based on what I had read on this forum I figured on replacing the factory sights. I was hoping to go with the Trijicon HD Night Sights which I have on several other carry guns but doesn’t look like they make them for the CZ 75.
I noticed CGW has a sight that is similar. Has anyone used this Meprolight?
https://cajungunworks.com/product/meprolight-hyper-bright-cz-78-85-sp-01-fixed-sight-set/ (https://cajungunworks.com/product/meprolight-hyper-bright-cz-78-85-sp-01-fixed-sight-set/)
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Based on what I had read on this forum I figured on replacing the factory sights. I was hoping to go with the Trijicon HD Night Sights which I have on several other carry guns but doesn’t look like they make them for the CZ 75.
I noticed CGW has a sight that is similar. Has anyone used this Meprolight?
https://cajungunworks.com/product/meprolight-hyper-bright-cz-78-85-sp-01-fixed-sight-set/ (https://cajungunworks.com/product/meprolight-hyper-bright-cz-78-85-sp-01-fixed-sight-set/)
Yes, I had these Meprolight's installed on my CZ75D PCR and the POA is right on. I have another PCR with the TruGlo Tritium Pro Night Sights CZ 75 Tritium Green Tritium W/Orange Outline Fr, TG-TG231Z1C installed and the POA is also right on, which I kinda prefer over the Meprolight's.
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For what it's worth:
My Truglo Pro night front sights with the orange dot measure .460 OAL x .155 tall x .160 wide.
My Meprolight Hyper Bright front Sights with an orange dot measure .365 OAL x .130 tall x .130 wide
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I have no personal experience with these but a friend swears ny them and they have sets for the 75 B
https://www.nightfision.com/product/night-fision-perfect-dot-tritium-night-sights-for-cz-usa-new
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Yes, I had these Meprolight's installed on my CZ75D PCR and the POA is right on. I have another PCR with the TruGlo Tritium Pro Night Sights CZ 75 Tritium Green Tritium W/Orange Outline Fr, TG-TG231Z1C installed and the POA is also right on, which I kinda prefer over the Meprolight's.
Thanks, I ordered a set of the TruGlo Tritium Pro with the orange front ring the other day. Looking forward to installing them.
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You are going to love them! The sights are perfect, 25 yrds on a 16" square target is no problem with every round. I was getting 3" groups at 10 yrds today. The front orange color sight really helps alot, at least for my eyes anyway. Tomorrow I am going to shoot my other PCR with the Meprolight sights that also have an orange front sight, for a comparison. The Truglo sights never missed the target at any distance up to 25yrds.
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For what it's worth:
My Truglo Pro night front sights with the orange dot measure .460 OAL x .155 tall x .160 wide.
My Meprolight Hyper Bright front Sights with an orange dot measure .365 OAL x .130 tall x .130 wide
I meant to say the Rear sight
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to me the factory small glow dots are pretty bad!
I had David install a set of Meps on it as its my carry weapon and I have a SP-01 Tac and 97 BD that had the same sights.
so I got the same sight picture with all three, the POA-POI did not change one bit from the factory sights.
and yep, MY P-01 shoots just as accurately as my SP-01, at least out to 25 yards,.
''MY P-01 shoots just as accurately as my SP-01, at least out to 25 yards," ...really? my experience is just the opposite on my P-01 Omega. The only way I can be accurate with it, even at 7 yrds, is to have a perfect grip and trigger pull. My SP-01 is very accurate and more forgiving. Maybe I'm just a bad shooter.
I must recant my previous comment from Sept., as now, I also shoot my CZ Compact, CZ 75D PCR more accurately than my CZ SP-01. Must be some kind of balance thing going on.