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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: czfan12 on April 15, 2017, 12:18:01 PM
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I'm working on getting a P-01 for beside the bed, and I'm planning on putting a light on it. The single attachment slot has me a little concerned as to what lights fit/work well with it. I've been all over Google, as well as checking the old threads here (most are 6+ months old on the topic). Lots of info, and I'm sorting through the more current stuff to find some solid advice.
Thought I'd take a more recent check to see what the good folks here are using or have used, and what has or hasn't worked well for them. I'm primarily interested in a light only, though I'm open to a laser/light combo. I'd like to keep the cost under $150, but could push that up a little if the value is there.
Thanks in advance for any input/suggestions/advice!
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In a recent CZ Forum thread, I noticed a picture of a Surefire XC1 that one of the members posted. It looked perfect on the P-01; so I just got one from Optics Planet for my SP-01. They just had a sale @ 20% off (code: FLASH20) so it was just over $200 all-in. It's one of the smallest lights with decent 200 lumen output at only 1.6oz. One lithium battery inserts from front without dismount.
I also have a Streamlight TLR-4 laser/light but it's a bit large for a compact pistol; so I moved it from the SP-01 onto my new Mossberg 590 Shockwave; where it is perfect size and works awesome for shooting bulls-eyes with the Shockwave 'from-the-hip'.
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P.S. Considering your objectives of <$150 for bedside use; the size of the Streamlight TLR-4 might be OK on a P-01. The smaller Surefire XC1 is better for holstering. The Streamlight TLR's are very durable with switchable light and/or laser. Last price I saw was ~$115. Here's my SP-01 with the TLR-4 next to my P-01 to get size perspective.
(http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q403/leon4658/DSC01667_zpspcu4ebao.jpg) (http://s350.photobucket.com/user/leon4658/media/DSC01667_zpspcu4ebao.jpg.html)
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Honestly? The best light I had on my P-01 was the NEBO one sold on CZ-USA online store. Still mount it on the Phantom at night, easy to use, and not very expensive.
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The Streamlight TLR-1/HL will fit, is in your price range and would serve you well.
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Here is mine with a TLR3. Don't like the look personally but it works fine. I'm going to get rid of it or put it on a different gun. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/0ecbe801257a754c4c8346259103bd9b.jpg)
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Another vote for the XC1
https://www.google.com/search?q=p-01+light&safe=off&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_oNfwx6zTAhUE1oMKHYVXBBQQ_AUIBigB&biw=1600&bih=770#safe=off&tbm=isch&q=p01+xc1
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Another vote for the XC1
https://www.google.com/search?q=p-01+light&safe=off&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_oNfwx6zTAhUE1oMKHYVXBBQQ_AUIBigB&biw=1600&bih=770#safe=off&tbm=isch&q=p01+xc1
yup xc1 for me
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I have had a similar experience. For what it is, it has held up nicely for the last 300-400 shots. I think I picked mine up on Amazon for under $40?
Honestly? The best light I had on my P-01 was the NEBO one sold on CZ-USA online store. Still mount it on the Phantom at night, easy to use, and not very expensive.
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A NEBO works. One came with my P09 .40 S&W, part of the package I suppose. I bought another one, way back there. Still have both of them, mounted on the AR15 pistols. Work great with the rail and the hand stop.
Back to the P01.
I have a couple Streamlights. A TLR1 and a TLR3. I suppose the "1" should last longer as it runs off two CR123's but it's an aggravation every time I have to change the batteries. I have to remove it from the gun to change the batteries since the batteries load from the rear and the door won't fully open with the light attached to the rail. The "3" is easy to change out the battery. Just unscrew the lens/cap and replace the battery before screwing the lens back on.
And yes, I do it with the gun loaded. I just put it on safe, hold it by the frame with my finger off the trigger and unscrew the lens with my left thumb/trigger finger from the bottom of the light/frame.
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Thanks to all for the suggestions. As it turns out, I ended up with an SP-01 Tactical, and a Streamlight TL-3. Like the pic with the SP-01 and the TL-4 a little earlier in the thread, it's a bit of as reach to get to the switch (fortunately, I have decent-sized biscuit grabbers!).
I have a question for the TL-3/4 owners. Key E is the recommended key, and fits the rail perfectly. I did, however, notice that Key B come close to fitting (it's a little too big), and results in the light being a little closer to the trigger guard. Has anyone tried filing/sanding down the Key B tab a little to make it fit better on the CZ rail and, if so, were you happy with the results?
Thanks!
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+1 on the TLR-1. Exactly what I have on my P01, and its on my nightstand at night.
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Just got back onto the site after a LONG hiatus. I have an X300/U on mine and use the Raven Vanguard 3. I had the light on a Glock 41 with a DG switch. It doesn't fit exactly, but it works.
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I just bought the TLR-1 HL for my P-01, can't beat 800 lumens, serves as a defensive deterrent itself. It's 4.1+ oz, but I don't even notice it, the gun still balances well due to the aluminum frame.
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The Streamlight TLR-1/HL will fit, is in your price range and would serve you well.
I love my TLR-2 with green laser.
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I found the DG switch for a Springfield fits the CZ P 01 perfectly, a truly happy camper with the X300/U and a DG switch on one of my favorite CZ's.
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I found the DG switch for a Springfield fits the CZ P 01 perfectly, a truly happy camper with the X300/U and a DG switch on one of my favorite CZ's.
I Know this is a pretty old post but this setup with the DG switch definitely interests me. Anyone used this set up or have a picture of it?
Thanks!
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I grabbed this and it looks a little BIG on my P-01 but it works awesome. I have moved it around to other pistols also with equally good results! This is a TLR-4 with a red laser, pretty sweet!
(https://i.imgur.com/67ZjSS1.jpg?1)
I watched some Vids from Shot Show and it looks like lots of new cool lights/lasers are on the way! Surefire I believe or Streamlight, can't remember, will look it up if you can't find what you're looking for.
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I have an SP-01 Tac as well and the Streamlight TLR-1 fits perfect and keeps the toggle really close to the trigger guard making it easy to reach. Alos, look at the Olight PL-2 Valkyrie. It fits the SP-01 excellent as well.
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I have a PL2 on my P10c SR. It's about as long as the threaded barrel.
So far I'm loving it.
Check out the Streamlight TLR7 or 8. They look great on a P01. Google image search should have plenty to see.
Olight has a new mini light too, but I don't have any experience with it.
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I have a new InForce APLc after using the Surefire XC1, I much prefer it but now I need a new holster...
I have a Surefire X300U on a P-07 for house protection. I'm generally a Surefire light kinda guy but that XC1 was a POS
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I just picked up a new P01 Omega. Put a Streamlight TLR7 on it. Fits perfectly, and 500 lumens is more than enough for "bump in the night" work. I think I paid just under $100 for the TLR7.
I'd attach a picture, but I'm new to this forum and cannot figure out how to do that. SMH
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For "bump in the night work" I prefer not to have a light mounted on my gun. I like to use just a normal tactical flashlight with strobe. I may not always want to point my gun at everything I need to point my light at. Most of the time it is a family member making the ruckus. I wouldnt want to point a loaded gun at one of my kids. Thats just my opinion
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I?m liking my Olight mini valkyries.
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I?m liking my Olight mini valkyries.
+1
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For "bump in the night work" I prefer not to have a light mounted on my gun. I like to use just a normal tactical flashlight with strobe. I may not always want to point my gun at everything I need to point my light at. Most of the time it is a family member making the ruckus. I wouldnt want to point a loaded gun at one of my kids. Thats just my opinion
The trick is to not point your gun. Bounce the light off the floor. Photons like to ricochet.
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And yes, I do it with the gun loaded. I just put it on safe, hold it by the frame with my finger off the trigger and unscrew the lens with my left thumb/trigger finger from the bottom of the light/frame.
What is the benefit of posting that?
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For "bump in the night work" I prefer not to have a light mounted on my gun. I like to use just a normal tactical flashlight with strobe. I may not always want to point my gun at everything I need to point my light at. Most of the time it is a family member making the ruckus. I wouldnt want to point a loaded gun at one of my kids. Thats just my opinion
The trick is to not point your gun. Bounce the light off the floor. Photons like to ricochet.
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I knew this response was coming. In my opinion it?s best to not have the light attached to the gun. Just my personal preference.
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TLR7 - 500 lumens, great beam pattern, compact light, cr123a battery, and great light color.
They're sub $95 on amazon right now.
You don't need more light than this indoors, and if you're going outdoors you want a rifle with a weapon light and an optic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvOR77nSPAQ
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For "bump in the night work" I prefer not to have a light mounted on my gun. I like to use just a normal tactical flashlight with strobe. I may not always want to point my gun at everything I need to point my light at. Most of the time it is a family member making the ruckus. I wouldnt want to point a loaded gun at one of my kids. Thats just my opinion
The trick is to not point your gun. Bounce the light off the floor. Photons like to ricochet.
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I knew this response was coming. In my opinion it?s best to not have the light attached to the gun. Just my personal preference.
Sure, and that's perfectly ok. It's not for everybody and does require a commitment to training around it.
I think the pros do outweigh the cons in the broader sense though. That's why you are starting to see more and more police agencies adopting pistol mounted lights. I read an article a few months back for example that looked at civilian (I think it was citizen and police) defensive shootings and found that in a very high percentage the shooter did not have both hands free. One hand was busy fighting off an attack, working a door, handling another person or animal, one hand may be disabled, etc... Police are realizing that the expectation that you'll have a free hand to hold a flashlight may not always be the case, particularly in their line of work.
Same with carrying a round in the chamber. You may not have the opportunity to chamber a round in a defensive shooting.
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If something goes bump in the night and you are going to investigate it with a weapon in your hand... I think the light on the weapon gives you the very best opportunity to know what you are aiming at, and know for sure what or who is in the bullet?s path to make the best decision possible. I want both of my hands on the weapon whenever possible.
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SDP with TLR-1 for home and P-01 with TLR-1 for the vehicle.
(https://i.imgur.com/QbbLdbS.jpg)
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SDP with TLR-1 for home and P-01 with TLR-1 for the vehicle.
(https://i.imgur.com/h2uSZN6.jpg)
For comparison, a TLR7 on a P01 (not my pic):
(https://i.imgur.com/Jto3lpS.jpg?2)
From this thread: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=95820.0
TLR1 has 800 lumens and TLR7 has 500.
MrGunsNGear video posted earlier compares the light of both -- I view the TLR1 as best suited for outside/offensive use at greater distance (many folks mount them to carbines w/ the pressure switch option).
Personally, I might consider the TLR1 for a vehicle gun but not for a home self defense handgun -- I get good visibility to at least 75 yards w/ the TLR7.
Surefire XC2 if you must conceal your gun and need as compact as possible. But believe the TLR7 to be a superior light in every other way... YMMV.
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I have a question for you guys that I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere. I have a P01 and when trying to mount the olight pl mini on it, with the 1913 key, it wont fit. The key is too wide for the rail on the gun. I had to file some off sides of the key to get it to fit. Anyone else have this issue? It fit fine before filing on my P07 and many other 1913 railed guns.
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I have a question for you guys that I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere. I have a P01 and when trying to mount the olight pl mini on it, with the 1913 key, it wont fit. The key is too wide for the rail on the gun. I had to file some off sides of the key to get it to fit. Anyone else have this issue? It fit fine before filing on my P07 and many other 1913 railed guns.
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I have an Olight PL II Valkyrie on my P-01. I had to use the Glock key. The 1913 key positioned the light too far back.
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The Inforce ALPC Glock model looks so clean on a P01. Google CZ 75 Inforce apl and you’ll see they sit flush with the end of the barrel, nightstick tcm550 looks great on it too and the nightstick gives you more runtime than other lights that are 2-3 times as much money. At 550 lumens you get 2.5 hours of runtime. If you google the light you will see how it function. I would go that route or Inforce but the inforace is less lumens and less runtime.Nightstick is made by bay i they have been making lights for law enforcement for years.
They are worth checking out
https://www.baycoproducts.com/product/weapon-mounted-lights/item/tcm-550xl
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Another vote for the TRL-1 HL for the SP-01
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/922/vtrVU0.jpg)
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I really like the PL-Mini Valkyrie model 1. It's a perfect fit for the P-01, and the attachment mechanism Olight uses one of the best out there.
(https://imgur.com/zR0Mq6e.jpg)
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I?m liking my Olight mini valkyries.
I figured someone would say it, before I made it too far into this thread.
I have the Olight Valkyrie PL Mini on mine, when it guards the lamp (nightstand).
Tiny, bright enough for indoor use, easy buttons (on the replacement, the first one was stiff, they took care of it QUICK), AND never buy batteries just slap the magnetic charger on it and leave it where it lays knowing it is fully charged when you grab it.
Would I wanna carry it on duty? Eh... I can think of more robust options I'd go with. Nightstand gun? Fits that bill perfect!
I'll try to get a pic up. Might not, tho, I'm a little self conscious about my gun needing a cerakote (it has not led a sheltered life)
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I have a question for you guys that I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere. I have a P01 and when trying to mount the olight pl mini on it, with the 1913 key, it wont fit. The key is too wide for the rail on the gun. I had to file some off sides of the key to get it to fit. Anyone else have this issue? It fit fine before filing on my P07 and many other 1913 railed guns.
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I have an Olight PL II Valkyrie on my P-01. I had to use the Glock key. The 1913 key positioned the light too far back.
Yea, pretty sure I am using the Glock one also.