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Title: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: blueknight99 on January 04, 2020, 12:57:16 AM
Trying to decide between one of the two. Which one to get first? Anyone has both? Decided to get the 11-inch one to get a balance with the noise control. Sadly cannot have suppressors here in IL. The 7.62x39 seems to be a bit easier to source (relatively) than the 5.56 version.

Also, as a background have a WASR 10 UF and the VEPR FM in 7.62x39. Have a few 5.56s as well including a custom AR-15 and ARX 100. Had a Bren 805 5.56 in 11" which I had sold and regret doing that.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: mig1nc on January 05, 2020, 09:50:17 AM
This is one of those religious debates. It's largely personal in my opinion.

I'm pretty deep in 556 rifles, so for me, I'd go with 556 for ammo commonality. If I was deep in 762, I'd go that route. But conversely, I've heard  people argue the opposite in case one caliber or the other becomes hard to find.

762 has better barrier penetration and deeper penetration for hunting inside common hunting ranges we get here in the Southeast. Supposedly this is why GIGN adopted the BREN 2 in 7.62x39.

556 has better terminal performance against mid-size game and two-legged targets assuming you engage inside the optimal parameters for the round you are using.

Some people complain about the proprietary 762 mags. But you supposedly can do a conversion to use regular AK mags. However the proprietary mags give you the benefit of a bolt hold open on last round.

556 can use commonly available mags already.

There are a lot of pros and cons to either way.

Maybe, get both?
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Doctor Castle on January 05, 2020, 09:10:57 PM
Can you convert between one and the other?
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: wags68 on January 05, 2020, 09:17:41 PM
Can you convert between one and the other?

Yes.  CZ Bren 2 conversion kits will be available... eventually.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: pooty on January 06, 2020, 11:09:20 AM
5.56 version, same easy to find mags and ammo as AR15s. 
Easier to find mag pouches for standard mags too.

Things are going to get really crazy after Trump gets out of office...
Title: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Mercs on January 06, 2020, 01:15:49 PM
The better round for an 11” barrel is x39 hands down, that’s an easy one


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Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Doctor Castle on January 06, 2020, 09:35:12 PM
Can you convert between one and the other?

Yes.  CZ Bren 2 conversion kits will be available... eventually.

Do you think you will be able to convert either to the other, or just from 7.62 to 5.56? I assume the magwell is larger on the 7.62, which makes me think you wouldn't be able to go from a 5.56 rifle to 7.62. Unless I'm missing something?
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: wags68 on January 06, 2020, 10:26:41 PM
Can you convert between one and the other?

Yes.  CZ Bren 2 conversion kits will be available... eventually.

Do you think you will be able to convert either to the other, or just from 7.62 to 5.56? I assume the magwell is larger on the 7.62, which makes me think you wouldn't be able to go from a 5.56 rifle to 7.62. Unless I'm missing something?

You will be able to convert either to the other.  The 5.56 BREN 2 has a sleeve/insert in the mag well that can be removed to fit the larger mags.  The insert can be seen on the bottom of the mag well in this image (https://i.imgur.com/uf14afvl.jpg). The conversion kits will consist of barrel and bolt.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: RSR on January 07, 2020, 12:21:38 AM
InRange released a video over Christmas comparing .308 and 7.62x39.  They found at 8 or 9" barrels, both calibers in standard military loadings produced similar energy.  And discussed how at 12" 7.62x39 has burnt all of its powder, something like only 100 fps drop from 12" to 16" IIRC. 

5.56 needs velocity to perform acceptably.  11" has tremendous flash and blast and you're at or below 2500 fps, which is the velocity needed for FMJ military loads to reliably wound/fragment and tumble.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: blueknight99 on January 08, 2020, 12:51:35 AM
Thanks for all the inputs folks. For now leaning towards the 7.62x39 Bren 2 Ms. Anyone has one? If yes, please share your experiences.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: mig1nc on January 08, 2020, 02:06:00 PM
InRange released a video over Christmas comparing .308 and 7.62x39.  They found at 8 or 9" barrels, both calibers in standard military loadings produced similar energy.  And discussed how at 12" 7.62x39 has burnt all of its powder, something like only 100 fps drop from 12" to 16" IIRC. 

5.56 needs velocity to perform acceptably.  11" has tremendous flash and blast and you're at or below 2500 fps, which is the velocity needed for FMJ military loads to reliably wound/fragment and tumble.

Yeah, but 556 is still a lot flatter shooting if you stretch it out.

Plus there are a lot more projectiles available.

Take a 62 grain TSX, you will still be over 2000 FPS and over the expansion threshold well past 200 yards.

We civilians don’t have JAG dictating what we can and can’t shoot with.


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Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: blueknight99 on January 08, 2020, 03:26:24 PM
Still no one with both the 5.56 and 7.62x39? Want to know the expereinces of folks who have shot both.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: RSR on January 09, 2020, 01:19:06 AM
I think MAC on youtube has a video comparing.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: GypsyDanger on January 11, 2020, 11:50:18 PM
Thanks for all the inputs folks. For now leaning towards the 7.62x39 Bren 2 Ms. Anyone has one? If yes, please share your experiences.

I absolutely adore my 11" 7.62. Recoils like a well-timed full-size AK, which is fantastic considered it's sub 6lbs. Don't feel the need to run a muzzle brake or anything. Haven't played with optics yet, just getting more range time with irons (which surprisingly came perfectly zeroed)

So far, I'd like to add a longer HBI handguard, right side safety delete (digs into my hand), and a solution for a nice stock. The factory buffer tube adapter is way too loose. Dan Haga occasionally makes ACR adapters, but sourcing an ACR stock is becoming difficult. Plus, 922r is gonna be a pain. There's also the issue of the gas piston regulator not having a suppressed setting. Might try to find someone that can drill a port in the OFF setting and nitride it.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Magsz on January 12, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
Can you heat treat a part for a second time that was already heat treated?  People do Glock slides all the time but im not sure about the process.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: sholzer on January 12, 2020, 11:47:39 PM
I would pick the 5.56, if I could find one in stock that is.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: brievolz on February 22, 2020, 06:34:41 PM
I just brought home the 11" Bren 2 Ms in 7.62x39.  Haven't shot it yet because I'm waiting on a Tailhook MOD 2 I ordered earlier in the week to arrive before heading to the range.  From what I have already handled, it seems pretty good even fully loaded.

Cannot wait until the Tailhook comes and see how it handles!
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: sneakyhenry on February 23, 2020, 02:20:33 AM
5.56 version, same easy to find mags and ammo as AR15s. 
Easier to find mag pouches for standard mags too.

Things are going to get really crazy after Trump gets out of office...
Yes things will get crazy after trumps out of office. I hope one of his kids runs for pres.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: sneakyhenry on February 23, 2020, 03:16:26 AM
Someone would make a lot of money if they made a gas plug with suppressor settings. I’m surprised it hasn’t already been done.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: MeatAxe on February 23, 2020, 08:41:52 PM
InRange released a video over Christmas comparing .308 and 7.62x39.  They found at 8 or 9" barrels, both calibers in standard military loadings produced similar energy.  And discussed how at 12" 7.62x39 has burnt all of its powder, something like only 100 fps drop from 12" to 16" IIRC. 

5.56 needs velocity to perform acceptably.  11" has tremendous flash and blast and you're at or below 2500 fps, which is the velocity needed for FMJ military loads to reliably wound/fragment and tumble.

Yeah, but 556 is still a lot flatter shooting if you stretch it out.

Plus there are a lot more projectiles available.

Take a 62 grain TSX, you will still be over 2000 FPS and over the expansion threshold well past 200 yards.

We civilians don’t have JAG dictating what we can and can’t shoot with.


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I don't use .223 / 5.56 for anything anymore, especially pistols. Fragmentation in soft targets is the main advantage of 5.56 but the bullet has to be up to at least 2400 fps on target to frag.  Muzzle velocity of .223 / 5.56 is only 2400 - 2600 fps out of an 11" bbl depending on the load / bullet weight. Bullet weight changes require rifling changes to stabilize, which is a PITA, so varied choices of bullet weights is not much of an advantage. Vastly inferior barrier penetration, etc.

Though 7.62x39 has a trajectory, maybe 6" or 8" inches from muzzle to 300 yards, it packs much more wallop and barrier penetration. You hit anything center mass, even with that trajectory, it's going to stop it. Plus, 7.62x39 is dirt cheap.

Now what would really be nice would be a 6.5 Grendel barrel / magazine conversion for the Bren 2...
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: the war wagon on February 24, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
This is one of those religious debates. It's largely personal in my opinion.

I'm pretty deep in 556 rifles, so for me, I'd go with 556 for ammo commonality. If I was deep in 762, I'd go that route.

If you DON'T get both  ;D , go with what you have to compliment it.

It's why I got an 805 in 5.56; 6 AR's and 500+ mags made it a no-brainer.  It's my shorty CQB option, and uses everything I already have!
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Capt Lazzo on April 20, 2020, 11:15:18 PM
I am in a similar boat as i would like to have both a 556 and 7.62x39mm Bren 2. Based on this thread it looks like there are no conversion kits yet, but are there separate parts available? Can i buy a 7.62x39 barrel, mags, and bolt? Are there any other parts required? I have a scorpion already but I keep eyeing the Bren 2 and figure I should go ahead and pull the trigger on purchasing one. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: armoredman on April 21, 2020, 01:01:52 AM
I don't know of any parts kits in stock yet for conversions. I don't see any listed at CZ-USA. All I can say is mine is flat out awesome and I don't regret a thing.

(https://i.imgur.com/OjxogPb.jpg)
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Capt Lazzo on April 21, 2020, 09:11:47 AM
Thanks for the information. I suppose I could buy one now and save up for a second one. It would be easier than having to convert one back and forth between calibers.  :)
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Magsz on April 21, 2020, 11:32:56 AM
Thanks for the information. I suppose I could buy one now and save up for a second one. It would be easier than having to convert one back and forth between calibers.  :)

That's the boat that i'm in right now as well.

I'm not relying on CZ to actually bring in bolts/barrels/conversion kits.  Ill buy the gun I want and call it a day.

I would start with the 7.62X39 gun unless you have a massive stockpile of 5.56.  My 7.62X39 is about as fun as it gets.  Its not quite as "fast handling" as a 5.56 due to the inherent lack of recoil in that caliber but its plenty easy to shoot fast with proper execution of the fundamentals.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Capt Lazzo on April 23, 2020, 11:02:15 AM
Well, I went ahead and ordered an 11" 5.56 and found an HBI handguard in stock this morning so I ordered that as well. Now I need to decide between the tailhook mod 2 and sba3 or 4. If anyone has any information or guidance on the brace I would appreciate the advice.

I went with the 5.56 as it complements the rest of my collection better than the 7.62. I have a lot of 5.56 target ammo to burn and very little 7.62 right now. If I like the 5.56 odds are good there will be a 7.62 version in my future as well.

Thanks for helping me get to a place where I could pull the proverbial trigger and place the orders.  :)
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: PirateArms on April 24, 2020, 12:04:22 PM
Someone would make a lot of money if they made a gas plug with suppressor settings. I’m surprised it hasn’t already been done.


Amen to that!!
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Magsz on April 24, 2020, 07:29:46 PM
Well, I went ahead and ordered an 11" 5.56 and found an HBI handguard in stock this morning so I ordered that as well. Now I need to decide between the tailhook mod 2 and sba3 or 4. If anyone has any information or guidance on the brace I would appreciate the advice.

I went with the 5.56 as it complements the rest of my collection better than the 7.62. I have a lot of 5.56 target ammo to burn and very little 7.62 right now. If I like the 5.56 odds are good there will be a 7.62 version in my future as well.

Thanks for helping me get to a place where I could pull the proverbial trigger and place the orders.  :)

Congrats man.  You're going to love the gun.  Its an absolutely fantastic platform.

As far as the braces go here are my impressions as I own all of them.

SBA3 is fantastic in every way.  Especially once you add a split fix.  Its light weight, shoots well and feels like its durable enough for relatively hard use.

The SBA4 is essentially a sopmod stock if you've ever used one.  Its got a fantastic cheek weld, feels extremely solid and when you incidentally shoulder it, it feels more solid than the SBA3.  The downside is that its larger and heavier.

The Tail hook is extremely well built but is my least favorite of the bunch.  Given that its rigid, and straight up and down, it does not incidentally shoulder well.  I find the toe of the hook sticking into my shoulder and its not as comfortable to shoot as the rest of the products out there.  IF it were canted on a negative angle like a CTR stock from Magpul, it would be a much better product.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: jon619 on April 24, 2020, 07:44:10 PM
Well, I went ahead and ordered an 11" 5.56 and found an HBI handguard in stock this morning so I ordered that as well. Now I need to decide between the tailhook mod 2 and sba3 or 4. If anyone has any information or guidance on the brace I would appreciate the advice.

Why order the HBI handguard when you haven't even handled the original yet? I bought the SBA4 because 9 hole reviews had it on theirs and it looks better balanced with the 14" 556 I picked up. The SBA3 might be better on the shorter barrels.

This review had a few different braces installed for comparison.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-cz-bren-2-ms-pistol/ (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-cz-bren-2-ms-pistol/)
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Scorepion on April 25, 2020, 01:20:28 AM
My .2 cents,

I'd go with the 556 for the magazines. Update the 7.62 barrel when magazines roll in. Hopefully Magpul will support another CZ platform soon enough with a tweak of their AK mags.

Maybe someone will come up with aftermarket support for a .300 Blk barrel by then.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: RSR on April 27, 2020, 03:33:34 AM
Unfortunately, mags are a legit reason. 

And it'd likely be more than a tweak on Magpul's end given rock-in vs straight insert.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: armoredman on May 01, 2020, 03:03:35 AM
I had heard there was a "hack" that was done on P-Mag AK mags to make them work with the BREN 2, but it's probably a knife and file slash job that will fail right when you need it most. I hope we get enough of the BREN 2 in country in 7.62x39mm that MagPul gets interested in making mags for it.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: czfanatic_ on May 01, 2020, 07:04:40 AM
I picked up one of each because I couldn't decide. 

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Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: rc4ch on May 01, 2020, 08:50:55 AM
I picked up one of each because I couldn't decide. 

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A 7.62x39 and 5.56? What barrel lengths did you get?
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: RSR on May 04, 2020, 03:18:18 AM
I had heard there was a "hack" that was done on P-Mag AK mags to make them work with the BREN 2, but it's probably a knife and file slash job that will fail right when you need it most. I hope we get enough of the BREN 2 in country in 7.62x39mm that MagPul gets interested in making mags for it.

I wouldn't be surprised that you can do it by cutting off the AK tabs and adding a the mag retention catch w/ full cutting or partial grooving.   But for magpul, it'd be an entirely new mold -- they don't release anything, especially on the mag end of the equation, that doesn't meet their version of perfection.

Now had Freedom Group not ran Tapco into the ground and killed the brand, they would probably make mags...  But now, you're probably left with promag as the most likely aftermarket mag manufacturer.  Who knows, maybe someone will come out of left field, but mags are expensive unless made at volume, and I don't think the volume portion of the equation is there for Bren-exclusive mags.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Scorepion on May 04, 2020, 06:37:55 PM
Promag is at least good for practice cuts to see if the conversion would work... :o

I'd think for every 556 sold there is a potential 7.62 conversion wanting a dozen magazines min? Worth getting a wish list (group buy) together to ask Magpul pretty please?
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Magsz on May 04, 2020, 09:11:54 PM
Someone needs to get the French military to contact Magpul and request mags. ;P
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: RSR on May 06, 2020, 05:33:55 PM
Do AK mag mods activate the last-shot bolt hold-open?
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: mig1nc on May 07, 2020, 07:43:45 AM
Do AK mag mods activate the last-shot bolt hold-open?
No, that's the one downside.

There is that one type of AK mag which had a lrbho follower, but no idea if it works here.

Would be cool if VZ mags worked.


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Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: czfanatic_ on May 07, 2020, 08:51:39 AM
I picked up one of each because I couldn't decide. 

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A 7.62x39 and 5.56? What barrel lengths did you get?
I have an 11" 5.56 and a 9" 7.62

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Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: rc4ch on May 07, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
I picked up one of each because I couldn't decide. 

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A 7.62x39 and 5.56? What barrel lengths did you get?
I have an 11" 5.56 and a 9" 7.62

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Awesome! That is my dream. I was considering getting the 11" 5.56, but found a 9" Bren 2 S, so got that first since the S are rare. Do you think its worth it to have both? I would have gotten the 5.56 first if there were all MS models.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Magsz on May 07, 2020, 09:37:28 PM
Awesome! That is my dream. I was considering getting the 11" 5.56, but found a 9" Bren 2 S, so got that first since the S are rare. Do you think its worth it to have both? I would have gotten the 5.56 first if there were all MS models.


See how you like that S version first.  If it blows your skirt up and you're really enjoying it then yes, a 5.56 gun would be a logical step.  Its going to recoil less and will be easier to shoot if that matters to you.

IF you enjoy your bren 2 and you find the recoil impulse workable then I would say "meh" to the 5.56 unless you want to convert to bren 2's as being your primary platform of choice.  I dont really find the bren to be "better" than a quality AR15, its just different.  I originally thought that the bren would be my grail rifle since it offers quite a bit:

Full ambi
Side charging handle
Piston for suppressor use
Folding stock

My actual experiences are proving different.  The 9 inch 7.62X39 is over gassed and does not have a suppressor setting on the gas block.  The safety is stiff and way less easy to operate than my AR15's.  I really dont like how stiff it is when it comes to putting the gun back on safe.

These are all minor quibbles and I very much like the gun.  I'm excited to see it evolve but its not the grail gun that I thought it was.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: czfanatic_ on May 07, 2020, 09:42:31 PM
See how you like that S version first.  If it blows your skirt up and you're really enjoying it then yes, a 5.56 gun would be a logical step.  Its going to recoil less and will be easier to shoot if that matters to you.

IF you enjoy your bren 2 and you find the recoil impulse workable then I would say "meh" to the 5.56 unless you want to convert to bren 2's as being your primary platform of choice.  I dont really find the bren to be "better" than a quality AR15, its just different.  I originally thought that the bren would be my grail rifle since it offers quite a bit:

Full ambi
Side charging handle
Piston for suppressor use
Folding stock

My actual experiences are proving different.  The 9 inch 7.62X39 is over gassed and does not have a suppressor setting on the gas block.  The safety is stiff and way less easy to operate than my AR15's.  I really dont like how stiff it is when it comes to putting the gun back on safe.

These are all minor quibbles and I very much like the gun.  I'm excited to see it evolve but its not the grail gun that I thought it was.

I hear you on all of those issues you mentioned.  The HBI selectors make a big difference when it comes to putting the gun back on safe.  They are stiff out of the box though. 

The 7.62 gun does have a bit of recoil, and may be over gassed, I'm not sure since it is the only 7.62x39 rifle I've fired.  It definitely recoils a lot more than the 5.56.  The 5.56 is a sweet shooter, barely moves when you pull the trigger. 

I agree a nice AR-15 is on par with a Bren 2, in my case I've made the Bren 2 my platform of choice for the time being, so they work for me. 

I'm hoping someone releases aftermarket gas plugs that have a suppressor setting drilled in them. 
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: armoredman on May 10, 2020, 04:08:06 AM
I honestly don't notice any real increase in recoil with the 7.62x39mm 11 inch barrel BREN 2 over my AR15...seriously. I really enjoy shooting both of them every chance I get. ;)
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: CursedItem on May 11, 2020, 02:12:46 PM
I ordered a 7.62x39 at 11". My motivation was one of ammo diversity. I already have an 18" AR-15, so I figured a smaller form factor and a different ammo profile fit a different role and provided flexibility. 5.56 is surprisingly hard to find up here (in Seattle) right now - sold out all over. So I've realized there's value in ammo diversity.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: NW-Wombat on June 01, 2020, 06:54:52 PM
Im going with the the 11" 762x39, and a Carbine in 556.
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: Scorepion on July 14, 2020, 04:28:39 PM
LGS has 9" 7.62 in stock. PM if you are looking and want their info
Title: Re: Bren 2 Ms 7.62x39 11" (or) Bren 2 Ms 5.56 11"
Post by: RSR on July 15, 2020, 03:21:00 AM
Im going with the the 11" 762x39, and a Carbine in 556.

IMO and FWIW, you chose wisely.