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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ 2075 RAMI CLUB => Topic started by: charlestheforth on August 05, 2018, 06:48:18 PM
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First off just want to say I became a rami owner 3 months ago and have been obsessed with this gun, I have never shot a subcompact so well.
However, I am a man who likes to be able to get a full grip on my guns, so I bought one of those pierce grip extensions (made for the Springfield XDE I think) and filed it down to fit the rami. Thsee grip extensions make this gun almost perfect, as now I can get a full purchase on the gun.
HOWEVER...
I have always felt a little weird using a grip extension, almost like I'm missing out on something (if I have a longer grip I should also benefit from more bullets). The problem is that the 14 round magazines for this gun make the grip the same dimensions as a compact firearm, so you lose all the benefit of having a subcompact by using them.
This gun would be PERFECT if cz would make am 11 or 12 round magazine. Something slightly bigger such that I could get all 3 fingers around the gun but not so big as to make it dimensionally the same as a compact. I really get a high grip and jam my fingers as close to the trigger guard as possible (as I think most people do) so I think an 11 or 12 round magazine would be perfect size to allow a full 3 finger grip for the rami
What do you all think? Is there anywhere around that sells 11 or 12 round cz magazines?
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no one?...
The 10 round magazine that comes with the gun digs into the top 1/4 of my pinky. with an 11 round magazine and a baseplate that doesnt jut out into the pinky it would be just big enough to get that last finger on, but not so big as to negate having a subcompact handgun.
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(https://imgur.com/a/zDKnMeT)
https://imgur.com/a/zDKnMeT (new here, havent quite figured out how to post pics...)
Heres the gun with the original 10 round magazine. I sanded down the baseplate to see if that would allow me to get my pinky on it. its SO CLOSE. an 11 round magazine with a baseplate like this would make this gun perfect for my hand. And I have pretty normal sized hands so id think other people would be in the same boat.
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The reason why there are no 11 or 12 round mags for the Rami is due to the fact that:
a) the Rami can take any CZ75 magazine.
b) there are already a lot of 14 round mags in existence and being made for the CZ75 Compact models.
c) 14 rounds > 11 or 12 rounds.
I suppose you could make your own 11 or 12 round mag by adding a two-round extended floor plate to a Rami 10-rounder.
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Check out the pic I just took. https://imgur.com/a/zDKnMeT
The rami 10 round magazines are like 1/4 inch from being long enough to get a pinky on.
If im going to use a 14 round magazine why even carry a subcompact at that point if the grip is the same size as the compacts?
IMO the perfect carry gun should have a magazine just long enough to get your pinky on and not a cm longer.
You say they have baseplates that could let me do this? Can you point me in the right direction?
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https://czcustom.com/cz-75-extended-base-pad-short.html
To each his own, I guess.
I find the Rami a lot more concealable than the P-01 yet has the same mag capacity. To me the Rami is like a snub nosed CZ75. Personally, I don't have much trouble concealing it for EDC.
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I guess people keep forgetting that in 1994, US Congress enacted ban on a large capacity magazines exceeding 10 cartridges. This law had a "sunset clause" which meant it would expired 10 years later, unless re-enacted again. That effort failed, but since then some states (i.e. California, Massachusetts) enacted their own keeping the count to 10.
CZ knew how popular these pistols may become and designed RAMI to be able to be exported to all 50 states, keeping magazine capacity to 10. Today RAMI pistols headed for these states come with two 10 rounders rather than one 10 and one 14.
Good thinking.
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There are a few companies that make +2 extensions for CZ magazines, Taran Tactical is the one that comes to mind. These look to be marketed for use on the higher capacity magazines for competitive shooters by I can't think of a reason that they wouldn't work on the 10 round RAMI magazines.
http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/base-pad-for-cz75/
I've not tried this and can't say for sure if they work with the RAMI but I'm sure you could call Taran Tactical and ask. It might be what you are looking for. You could also check with CZ Customs or Cajun Gun works. They are the best sources for all things CZ.
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These +2 baseplates look awesome and are pretty much exactly what im looking for. However, if there was a +1 baseplate I think that would be perfect.
I realize im being OCD about a difference of a quarter inch of grip length.. But I really want the grip to be long enough to allow me to get a pinky on it and no longer. That in my mind would equate to the perfect dimensions for a double stack carry pistol.
The rami is already the best subcompact Ive ever shot, this would just make it literally perfect for me.
On a side note though Im suprised that this isnt a standard request for a carry pistol..
also, would anyone care to teach me how to attach a picture>? I uploaded one to imgur and put the link in between the "" but still nothing attached.
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I think the problem you are having posting pictures has to do with the "" you are talking about. All you have to do is paste the link you got from Imgur nothing else just the link.
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I, myself, do not use and trust the 14 round mags on a Rami! More nose diving . I tried cleaning the mags, using the +10 pound mag, etc. So I jyst stay away and just use the 10 round rounds that is just so reliable.
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I, myself, do not use and trust the 14 round mags on a Rami! More nose diving . I tried cleaning the mags, using the +10 pound mag, etc. So I jyst stay away and just use the 10 round rounds that is just so reliable.
Unlike the CZ75s, the Rami feed ramp is pretty steep at the bottom, which could hang up and cause a jam, especially if the bullets you're using are flat or have a sharp edge around tip / hollow point.
Barnes Tac XP bullets can stick on the bottom of the feed ramp, especially if the mag springs are getting weak. The +10 mag springs seem to have fixed that problem for me, so far, but am considering coating the bullet tips with magazine lube to keep them slick and sliding up the feed ramp.
http://www.barnesbullets.com/bullets/tac-xp/
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I never have any problem with the 10 round mags, though. It's only the 14 round mags that nose dives. I even put light oil on the mag itself hoping it helps a smooth feed!
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I, myself, do not use and trust the 14 round mags on a Rami! More nose diving . I tried cleaning the mags, using the +10 pound mag, etc. So I jyst stay away and just use the 10 round rounds that is just so reliable.
Unlike the CZ75s, the Rami feed ramp is pretty steep at the bottom, which could hang up and cause a jam, especially if the bullets you're using are flat or have a sharp edge around tip / hollow point.
Barnes Tac XP bullets can stick on the bottom of the feed ramp, especially if the mag springs are getting weak. The +10 mag springs seem to have fixed that problem for me, so far, but am considering coating the bullet tips with magazine lube to keep them slick and sliding up the feed ramp.
I had similar issues with HST's and their sharp leading edge catching the bottom of the feed ramp, but only with the 14 rd mags. Going to extra power magazine springs and 124 gr +P Gold Dots made my RAMI BD 100% with the 14 rounders.
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Just tuck your pinky under the base plate. The Rami still has plenty of weight to keep the gun steady with a 2 finger grip! Very accurate with this method from day one. You can do it too! Even my lighter yet Beretta Nano with long revolver-like stiff double action trigger pull is steady with a 2 finger hold.
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I, myself, do not use and trust the 14 round mags on a Rami! More nose diving . I tried cleaning the mags, using the +10 pound mag, etc. So I jyst stay away and just use the 10 round rounds that is just so reliable.
Unlike the CZ75s, the Rami feed ramp is pretty steep at the bottom, which could hang up and cause a jam, especially if the bullets you're using are flat or have a sharp edge around tip / hollow point.
Barnes Tac XP bullets can stick on the bottom of the feed ramp, especially if the mag springs are getting weak. The +10 mag springs seem to have fixed that problem for me, so far, but am considering coating the bullet tips with magazine lube to keep them slick and sliding up the feed ramp.
I had similar issues with HST's and their sharp leading edge catching the bottom of the feed ramp, but only with the 14 rd mags. Going to extra power magazine springs and 124 gr +P Gold Dots made my RAMI BD 100% with the 14 rounders.
Actually, after I had one hang up in the RAMI with a Barnes Tac XP bullet the other day, even with the heavier springs, I'm switching over to the "new" Corbon DPX 115gr all copper HP, which has a more rounded, easier feeding tip than the flat, sharp-edged Barnes bullet. Corbon used to load the Barnes Tac XP in their DPX line, but recently changed to a bullet of their own design. I haven't tested it in pork shoulders yet or seen any ballistic gel tests, but hopefully, being a solid copper HP bullet, it will have the same superior penetration (through bone, etc.) as the Barnes bullet.
https://corbon.com/corbon/dpx/handgun
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I, myself, do not use and trust the 14 round mags on a Rami! More nose diving . I tried cleaning the mags, using the +10 pound mag, etc. So I jyst stay away and just use the 10 round rounds that is just so reliable.
Unlike the CZ75s, the Rami feed ramp is pretty steep at the bottom, which could hang up and cause a jam, especially if the bullets you're using are flat or have a sharp edge around tip / hollow point.
Barnes Tac XP bullets can stick on the bottom of the feed ramp, especially if the mag springs are getting weak. The +10 mag springs seem to have fixed that problem for me, so far, but am considering coating the bullet tips with magazine lube to keep them slick and sliding up the feed ramp.
I had similar issues with HST's and their sharp leading edge catching the bottom of the feed ramp, but only with the 14 rd mags. Going to extra power magazine springs and 124 gr +P Gold Dots made my RAMI BD 100% with the 14 rounders.
Actually, after I had one hang up in the RAMI with a Barnes Tac XP bullet the other day, even with the heavier springs, I'm switching over to the "new" Corbon DPX 115gr all copper HP, which has a more rounded, easier feeding tip than the flat, sharp-edged Barnes bullet. Corbon used to load the Barnes Tac XP in their DPX line, but recently changed to a bullet of their own design. I haven't tested it in pork shoulders yet or seen any ballistic gel tests, but hopefully, being a solid copper HP bullet, it will have the same superior penetration (through bone, etc.) as the Barnes bullet.
https://corbon.com/corbon/dpx/handgun
The best advice i ever got was to use the kimber ultra carry .45 (wolff springs part 51818) recoil springs in the 9mm rami. The outer spring adds just enough force to the guide rod assembly system to do away with FTFs. It also decreased the Felt recoil for me.
That and wolff always has them in stock unlike the actual cz springs
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Has anyone given the Taran base plate a shot? If so, I would like to see your findings.
Thanks,
Tony Harbison
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Rami +2 on 10 rnd mag https://imgur.com/a/al53KH4
What you guys think?
Thanks,
Tony
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So, I just got a Sphinx Subcompact last week. Looks like a smallish, CZ PO7, except aluminum with poly grip, the slide is a dead ringer for the P07. P07 mag looks similar but is fatter by a smidgen. Got me to thinking. I can get just a full grip on this and it holds 13 rounds. I think a Poly version as a P07 sub would rock. The weights are so similar between my P07, and Sphinx sub differing by only an ounce.
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Figured I’d post this up - haven’t seen it anywhere else, and I must have missed THarbison’s post:
http://i.imgur.com/d7tYbeq.jpg (Went with a link because the image was huge when I tried to post directly)
Taran Tactical +2 baseplate on the RAMI 10rd mag. It adds approximately the same amount of length as the Pierce extension, but gives +1 capacity (+2 if you file down the bottom of the follower a bit).
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Figured I’d post this up - haven’t seen it anywhere else, and I must have missed THarbison’s post:
http://i.imgur.com/d7tYbeq.jpg (Went with a link because the image was huge when I tried to post directly)
Taran Tactical +2 baseplate on the RAMI 10rd mag. It adds approximately the same amount of length as the Pierce extension, but gives +1 capacity (+2 if you file down the bottom of the follower a bit).
Thanks for the image. Somehow I missed this post earlier. Looks really sweet!
I actually like the 10 round mags with pinkie locked underneath. Like squeezing a potato it holds very firm at least for me. I have a P-01 if I want something larger. But I have to admit the Taran +2 might just be the ideal combo.
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The reason why there are no 11 or 12 round mags for the Rami is due to the fact that:
a) the Rami can take any CZ75 magazine.
b) there are already a lot of 14 round mags in existence and being made for the CZ75 Compact models.
c) 14 rounds > 11 or 12 rounds.
BINGO!
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I'm happy with carrying a 10 rounder for concealment and having a 15 rounder for backup.
However, I would like to see Mec-gar upgrade the 10 rounders to the newer blue follower anti-friction design.
Love these on my SP-01 and P-01 pistols.
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Figured I’d post this up - haven’t seen it anywhere else, and I must have missed THarbison’s post:
http://i.imgur.com/d7tYbeq.jpg (Went with a link because the image was huge when I tried to post directly)
Taran Tactical +2 baseplate on the RAMI 10rd mag. It adds approximately the same amount of length as the Pierce extension, but gives +1 capacity (+2 if you file down the bottom of the follower a bit).
I know this was forever ago, but do you have a link? Can't seem to figure out which it is! TIA!
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Figured I’d post this up - haven’t seen it anywhere else, and I must have missed THarbison’s post:
http://i.imgur.com/d7tYbeq.jpg (Went with a link because the image was huge when I tried to post directly)
Taran Tactical +2 baseplate on the RAMI 10rd mag. It adds approximately the same amount of length as the Pierce extension, but gives +1 capacity (+2 if you file down the bottom of the follower a bit).
I know this was forever ago, but do you have a link? Can't seem to figure out which it is! TIA!
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https://tarantacticalinnovations.com/base-pad-for-cz-9mm-17-18-round-mec-gar-magazines/
Sorry it took so long to respond, but I only lurk periodically. Also, since I’ve posted this the springs have relaxed or something and the mag can now easily hold 13 rounds with no feed issues so far. I’ve also added a 10 round with a Taran +4 as a backup that holds 15 rounds.
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CZ made a 12 round sub compact pistol. It is called CZ P10S, and if you are lucky you can get an optic ready version.
I have both, and RAMI now is a safe queen.