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Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2020, 08:43:58 PM »
There is NO reason to switch because they are somehow not as good in function as a steel rod.  Read the Enos forum. Guys who shoot tens of thousands of rounds find that they last and work fine.
I don't need to read any OPINIONS on the enos forum.  I know that many people have fired tens of thousands of rounds on plastic guide rods and I never said they didn't last in the first place. I simply prefer a solid steel guide rod when ever they are available for replacement in my guns that come with plastic. By YOUR logic then there's no reason to change ANYTHING if it is working. We change things on our guns, cars, in our homes and every other aspect of our lives to fit our personal taste and preferences and that is not an opinion that is a fact.

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2020, 09:09:50 PM »
Yes preference is fine for a reason.  Happy Thanksgiving.  CZs are fun!

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2021, 08:01:53 PM »
I actually found that when I switched out my polymer guide rod on my PCR for a SS one, I began experiencing failures to feed.  I switched back to polymer, and things are better, although the gun still sometimes doesn't feed properly.  I'm thinking of polishing the feed ramp and breach on the barrel next to see if that helps.  Does anyone have any feedback about that?

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2021, 09:41:35 PM »
I actually found that when I switched out my polymer guide rod on my PCR for a SS one, I began experiencing failures to feed.  I switched back to polymer, and things are better, although the gun still sometimes doesn't feed properly.  I'm thinking of polishing the feed ramp and breach on the barrel next to see if that helps.  Does anyone have any feedback about that?

Could be ammo, technique, lots of things, more info is needed. Sometimes CZ's are over sprung for NATO ammo and weak 115gr is not strong enough to cycle properly.  Lots of aftermarket steel guide rods wont even work with the flat stock CZ spring.

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2021, 05:04:13 AM »
  Lots of aftermarket steel guide rods wont even work with the flat stock CZ spring.
Care to elaborate on which ones won't work? I've not had an issue finding a metal guide rod for any of the very many CZ's I have or have had. Guide rods are gun specific not generic and flat wire recoil springs are increasingly becoming the norm for good reason.

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2021, 11:25:21 PM »
Just the info I got while searching for one. Cajun specifically says it won't work and CZ custom does not recommend it.  From Cajun gun works:          https://cajungunworks.com/product/75060-304ss-precision-recoil-spring-guide-rod-fits-full-size-cz/

from CZ custom https://czcustom.com/cz-75-sp01-sa-tactical-sports-ts-stainless-steel-guide-rod.html
« Last Edit: February 12, 2021, 11:34:01 PM by Zardos »

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2021, 05:56:13 AM »
Just the info I got while searching for one. Cajun specifically says it won't work and CZ custom does not recommend it.  From Cajun gun works:          https://cajungunworks.com/product/75060-304ss-precision-recoil-spring-guide-rod-fits-full-size-cz/

from CZ custom https://czcustom.com/cz-75-sp01-sa-tactical-sports-ts-stainless-steel-guide-rod.html
That info is in regard to the SP-01 not the standard 75 series compacts. CZ Custom  and CGW both sell guide rods that function perfectly with the flat wire recoil spring. I bought the one in My PCR from Guiderod.com 11 years ago but the founder of that business is dead now I think.

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2021, 09:06:55 AM »
In my gen 2 P-07's I have run:

Factory captured recoil spring on polymer guide rod x 2
Factory de-captured blue recoil spring out of a DUTY model, on a CGW SS guide rod, in a DUTY slide
Captured SS guide rods from SSGuiderods.com x 2
CGW SS guiderods with CGW 18 lb springs x 2
CGW SS guiderods with CGW 15 lb springs x 2
Rhino titanium alloy guide rods with CGW 18 lb springs x 2

Never had any malfunctions out of any of those combinations.  In the end, for a carry pistol that I live fire practice with fairly often, what I want is a guide rod and recoil spring combo that:

1. works (all of them, in my guns, with my ammo)
2. is as durable as possible (probably the titanium ones, followed by the steel)
3. is as light as possible (polymer, followed by titanium)
4. makes the spring easy to clean (any guide rod that runs an uncaptured spring)
5. can withstand harsh chemicals like acetone and brake cleaner (titanium and steel)

So in the end I sold off my factory and SSGuiderods.com captured springs, and use CGW steel and Rhino titanium guide rods, with uncaptured 18 lb CGW springs.  Normally I carry the titanium guide rods.  If I was trying to mitigate recoil, I might put in a steel one.  I thought about ordering a polymer one from the CZ-USA store for 5 bucks, which is the lightest option for an uncaptured spring, but then I wouldn't be able to throw it in a pan with steel parts and hose it down with brake cleaner.  I already accommodate my polymer frames with adhesive Talon grips in my cleaning routine, and wouldn't like to add a part to the slide assembly that can't take the same chemicals I use on the remainder of the slide.  There's also no way it can be as physically durable as the steel or titanium ones.  Polymer is probably better for captured springs you are going to throw away after 5K rounds or so, not guide rods you are going to run with uncaptured springs for tens of thousands of rounds.
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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2021, 01:22:55 PM »
Just the info I got while searching for one. Cajun specifically says it won't work and CZ custom does not recommend it.  From Cajun gun works:          https://cajungunworks.com/product/75060-304ss-precision-recoil-spring-guide-rod-fits-full-size-cz/

from CZ custom https://czcustom.com/cz-75-sp01-sa-tactical-sports-ts-stainless-steel-guide-rod.html
That info is in regard to the SP-01 not the standard 75 series compacts. CZ Custom  and CGW both sell guide rods that function perfectly with the flat wire recoil spring. I bought the one in My PCR from Guiderod.com 11 years ago but the founder of that business is dead now I think.

Good to know, were not to many options for the SP01, I wanted a lighter spring anyways. Thanks.

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Re: Polymer guide rod warp
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2021, 05:36:12 PM »
I’ve noticed mine was a little warped from the factory and was worried. Good to know it’s not a real issue