CZ P-10C vs. HK VP-9

[s0nspark]

However, I already have an 'extra' SP-01 and HK VP-9. I have two Delta-Point Pros (2.5 and 7.5 MOA)  I have a Leupold adapter plate for the CZ -75  No Leupold adapter that fits the VP-9.  My plan was to try the system out on the SP-01, even if a bit top-heavy with adapter plate; then go from there. Or, maybe trade out the HK VP-9 for something really better that's already milled, or go all-in on the SP-01 and just git 'er done!

That sounds like a solid plan to test the waters

Let us know how it works for you!

[incogneato]

I'm wondering how this handgun will compare to my HK VP-9?... What's so special about it?

I haven't actually seen the CZ in-person, but can speak on some areas of how they will compare for me.

Both have full-ambidextrous controls, and will share magazines (but generally not holsters) with one of their DA/SA siblings.

I find the VP9 grip texture to be pretty much cosmetic... easy enough to remedy, but out of the box, it's as slick as a greased pig. As you know, the VP9s grip panels provide for additional grip tailoring to individual hands.

The P10C is universally reported to have aggressive texturing.

For me, the advantages the P10C will have over the VP9 will be the mag release being familiar, and having more real estate along the frame for my support thumb. While I don't have an issue with the paddle mag release for occasional range use, my thumb is hardwired for what to do under stress.

I wonder what accommodation the new P-10C might have for reflex sight options.

Early reports were that the rear sight dovetail was the same as the Shadow 2, but at least one later reviewer commented that sights were one of the things being changed for production. Either way, once they are in the wild, CZC and/or Springer Precision have dovetail plates that should work, if you want to go that route, and I doubt it will be long before CZC  and CGW will be milling slides for them.

No inside information, though...

[DOC 1500]

 just to let everybody know that's waiting for the P10 's... spoke with a gun dealer this week he said they made a bunch of them and discovered a problem with the trigger and had to change something so they should be coming out soon.
NO, he didn't say what the problem was.

[Vinny]

Thanks for the heads-up. Expectations for an outstanding trigger are very high on the P-10C
Good that they're trying to get it right out-of-the-box; and not letting us do their R&D (like all to many other gun mfgrs.)

[DOC 1500]

From all the reviews I've seen , it's supposed to be a 4.5 pound trigger pull out of the box,  I hope whatever problem they fixed didn't bring the trigger pull up to a higher level.

[Vinny]

I'm wondering how this handgun will compare to my HK VP-9?... What's so special about it?

I haven't actually seen the CZ in-person, but can speak on some areas of how they will compare for me.

Both have full-ambidextrous controls, and will share magazines (but generally not holsters) with one of their DA/SA siblings.

I find the VP9 grip texture to be pretty much cosmetic... easy enough to remedy, but out of the box, it's as slick as a greased pig. As you know, the VP9s grip panels provide for additional grip tailoring to individual hands.

The P10C is universally reported to have aggressive texturing.

For me, the advantages the P10C will have over the VP9 will be the mag release being familiar, and having more real estate along the frame for my support thumb. While I don't have an issue with the paddle mag release for occasional range use, my thumb is hardwired for what to do under stress.

I wonder what accommodation the new P-10C might have for reflex sight options.

Early reports were that the rear sight dovetail was the same as the Shadow 2, but at least one later reviewer commented that sights were one of the things being changed for production. Either way, once they are in the wild, CZC and/or Springer Precision have dovetail plates that should work, if you want to go that route, and I doubt it will be long before CZC  and CGW will be milling slides for them.

No inside information, though...

Thanks Incogneato, for your insight. 
I agree especially on grips, I love my CZ-75 and RAMI cross-hatched rubber grips just the way they are. Although the VP-9 grip straps and side panels can be changed to customize; they slipped around awfully. I added Talon wrap grip and that helped a lot. I will say that after ~2400 rounds the VP-9 has not had a single hiccup; running mostly FMJ's and some JHP's. My orig. recoil spring (red) started getting a little wimpy, but after calling their customer service they sent me a free upgrade to the firmer 40S&W spring which is now standard on all VP's 9 and 40.

[Vinny]

Thanks Incogneato, for your insight.
I agree especially on grips, I love my CZ-75 and RAMI cross-hatched rubber grips just the way they are. Although the VP-9 grip straps and side panels can be changed to customize; they slipped around awfully. I added Talon wrap grip and that helped a lot.

I will say that after ~2400 rounds the VP-9 has not had a single hiccup; running mostly FMJ's and some JHP's.

My orig. recoil spring (red) started getting a little wimpy, but after calling their customer service they sent me a free upgrade to the firmer 40S&W spring which is now standard on all VP's both 9 and 40.

[N7CZ]

I think you just double posted your reply.

Sent from my Pixel XL

[Vinny]

Didn't mean to double post. Did something wrong.
I gotta figure out how to pick up a "quote" ; than add copy in a separate section below.