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Offline bozwell

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Re: BREAKING! New gunwalking revelations, Grassley reacts
« Reply #135 on: September 24, 2012, 05:48:48 PM »
The difference between "stupid but well intentioned" and some "nefarious" plot is intent.  Nothing I've seen offers any tangible evidence towards ill-intent on behalf of the administration; rather, it's just pure speculation and tinfoil hattery.  I tend to err on the side of "well intentioned", until I see evidence suggesting otherwise, consistent with our innocent until proven guilty legal system.  Making it personal doesn't change that analysis.  I'm not condoning the actions, nor am I blaming Bush for F&F.  I just don't buy it's some evil, anti-gun plot from the highest level of the administration - at least not until I see evidence suggesting it is. 

As for the differences between F&F and Wide Receiver, while I never said the differences are trivial, I think there are way more similarities than differences between the two.  As far as "aiding and abetting smuggling across an international border", both F&F and previous operations allowed straw purchasers to move guns across the border.  Finally, while you listed off some basic criminal offenses, whether these operations or someone's failure to testify constituted a criminal act is an issue for the courts and/or a jury to sort out. 

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Re: BREAKING! New gunwalking revelations, Grassley reacts
« Reply #136 on: September 25, 2012, 10:51:13 AM »
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Finally, while you listed off some basic criminal offenses, whether these operations or someone's failure to testify constituted a criminal act is an issue for the courts and/or a jury to sort out.
That is all I ask. The Committee has been stonewalled at every turn, so it's obvious someone is lying and hiding things. By all means, let it all come out in OPEN court.

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Re: BREAKING! New gunwalking revelations, Grassley reacts
« Reply #137 on: October 01, 2012, 11:01:30 AM »
Amen Brother. For everything that has gone on, in F&F.
 If the public only new 50% of the details WE THE PEOPLE" might have to build a new SUPER MAX prison for all of the politicians involved!

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Re: BREAKING! New gunwalking revelations, Grassley reacts
« Reply #138 on: October 01, 2012, 10:42:52 PM »
Nice thought, Jesses James, but we'd have to wall in an entire state with bars to have one big enough for all the selfish crook politicians and judges etc.