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Offline JoeHall

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Re: CZ-82 starting FTF with Hornady Critical Defense
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2016, 10:39:58 PM »
I have fired about 1000 rounds through a CZ82 so far. When I first got it, it failed to feed about every third/fourth round. Eventually, I wound up with an education on CZ82 mags. There are many counterfeits out there, that fire the first 2-3 loads just fine, then begin to deteriorate. They average $15-$25 each, and are junk; it is difficult to determine just where they are made, but they are clearly inferior. The ads are misleading; they are sold as, "un-issued", "Czeck", "surplus", etc. 

I discovered the $45 mags, at CZ-USA, are far superior to the counterfeits. They are equaled only by true surplus mags, which are distinguishable by an 'X' at the bottom side. Problem is, many of the 'X' mags are worn out; its luck of the draw, when you can find them.

Long story short, I now have three good mags: one surplus, and two CZ-USA, and cannot recall the last malfunction of any kind.  I have not noticed any difference, wet with lube, or drier and dirty; I am not meticulous on keeling it clean, either. It eats JHPs all day, and loves Hornady CDs (when I can afford them), but has never liked JHPs. 

I too, run an 18# spring, and agree, spring strength, within the available strengths' range,  does not affect reliability. Stronger springs are a trade off: more muscle to rack the slide, but results in reduced recoil. If anything, heavier springs are easier on the gun, since the slide does not slam to the rear as hard.

 
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Offline JKale2923

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Re: CZ-82 starting FTF with Hornady Critical Defense
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2016, 09:35:53 AM »
I have 3 of those "counterfeit" mags you are talking about. I fell for the cheap price, but will not use them for anything accept practicing on the range. I have 3 mags with the X on it. One was giving me jams so I swapped out the spring. My last trip to the range it was ok. My biggest issue now is just loading. Sometimes when I rack put a new magazine in and rack, the HornadI y bullet fails to feed. Even if I lock back the slide, push in a new mag and release the slide it can hang. Maybe it is just the shape of the Hornady Critical Defense bullet. I put in an 18# spring and that may improve things. The last time I locked the slide back and loaded it did feed but I heard it pause for about a tenth of a second as it was feeding. I think the stronger spring may have given it an extra push.

Offline JoeHall

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Re: CZ-82 starting FTF with Hornady Critical Defense
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2016, 12:04:53 AM »
JKale,
Compare the lips of the feed chute, between the one 'X' mag that jams and the two that don't. If you don't have dial calipers, another way to compare is to run your finger tip back and forth, between the lips. Either way, remove the spring and follower first. Odds are, the defective mag chute will be a little wider, at the forward edge. That allows the round to point upward a little too far, and mis-align with the feed ramp. Use something like needle nose pliers to carefully bend it inward, to match the other two. For final check, compare the round position as it exits the chute. Of course, its safest to use dummy rounds for this. 

That is how I salvaged the one surplus mag. They only wear wide, after many thousands of rounds fired. Once adjusted, they are once again good for many more rounds. But the counterfeit mags do the same thing after only a few loads, due to the weak metal that simply bends outward. To compare the difference in metal, use the pliers to bend the lips on one of the counterfeits, then try an 'X' mag. The difference is night and day.   

I highly recommend the CZ-USA mags. :)
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Offline websterz

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Re: CZ-82 starting FTF with Hornady Critical Defense
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2016, 05:07:52 PM »
The mystery to my is how you had a good day with it. Love my CZ-82 but I have yet to find a hollow point that it will feed reliably. It *really* prefers FMJ.

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Re: CZ-82 starting FTF with Hornady Critical Defense
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2016, 04:56:02 PM »
I would stick with factory recoil springs.  I have had zero FTF with Hornady Critical Defense or Buffalo Bore 90 grain JHP +Ps.  I replaced all of my magazine springs with new factory CZ-USA springs, though.  I do have one magazine with crossed swords that always FTF the second to the last round.  Even some no-name mags (not the CZ MFG ones that are floating around) that feed perfect, though they have new CZ USA springs in them.