10 round magazine question

[taylorkh]

My sister lives in a state who's government has seceded from the United States and passed a hi capacity magazine ban. It is currently on hold due to a court challenge but... Until she can retire in a few years and immigrate back to the USA I am tracking down 10 round magazines for her. I see that Mec-Gar makes a 10 round mag for the CD 75 platform. The picture on their site shows a "dimple" on the side which apparently restricts the movement of the follower and thus restricts the capacity. The description says...

Revised dimpled design accepts standard Mec-Gar floorplates, springs, and follower

Which brings me to my question:

If the dimples restrict the movement of the follower, can the follower be removed for cleaning of the mag?  The comment on the web site would imply that one could remove the non-standard follower and replace it with the "standard" follower.  Has anyone here had experience with these things?

TIA,

Ken

[andrew1220]

My sister lives in a state who's government has seceded from the United States and passed a hi capacity magazine ban. It is currently on hold due to a court challenge but... Until she can retire in a few years and immigrate back to the USA I am tracking down 10 round magazines for her. I see that Mec-Gar makes a 10 round mag for the CD 75 platform. The picture on their site shows a "dimple" on the side which apparently restricts the movement of the follower and thus restricts the capacity. The description says...

Revised dimpled design accepts standard Mec-Gar floorplates, springs, and follower

Which brings me to my question:

If the dimples restrict the movement of the follower, can the follower be removed for cleaning of the mag?  The comment on the web site would imply that one could remove the non-standard follower and replace it with the "standard" follower.  Has anyone here had experience with these things?

TIA,

Ken

Are you referring to this mag?
http://gregcotellc.com/cart/cz-factory-mecgar-actmag-c-173/cz-75b-85b-sp01-shadow-2-10-rd-9mm-mgcz7510b-p-1496.html

If so, the follower can be removed. That dimple does not restrict the movement. I have 6 or 7 of these mags as I live in a communist state. Very well made mags.

[taylorkh]

Thanks andrew1220,

That appears to be the same mag as I was viewing on the Mec-Gar site. If the dimples do not stop the follower at 10 rounds, how is the capacity restricted?  My experience with these things is limited. I have a couple of "pop rivet special" AR mags which had a U shaped piece of sheetmetal pop riveted to the baseplate with the legs pointing up into the mag body. This restricted the capacity of the 20 round body to 5 rounds.  I know that many restricted magazines have a plastic base piece connected to a shorter mag body (e.g. for the Browning Hi Power).

Thanks again,

Ken

[andrew1220]

Thanks andrew1220,

That appears to be the same mag as I was viewing on the Mec-Gar site. If the dimples do not stop the follower at 10 rounds, how is the capacity restricted?  My experience with these things is limited. I have a couple of "pop rivet special" AR mags which had a U shaped piece of sheetmetal pop riveted to the baseplate with the legs pointing up into the mag body. This restricted the capacity of the 20 round body to 5 rounds.  I know that many restricted magazines have a plastic base piece connected to a shorter mag body (e.g. for the Browning Hi Power).

Thanks again,

Ken

Hmmm I guess I never really bothered to see how these 10 rounds are restricted. I'll have to take it apart again when I get home. All I know is that they're limited to 10 and the magazine can be disassembled for cleaning.

I'll report back later.

[Matt101]

The dimple stops the rounds, not the follower.

The mag is double stack so the rounds are offset to each other. The dimples are placed so that a round will contact one of them (not both) and then the pressure from the round on top prevents it going further.

These Mecgars work great and you can run the same springs as the standard cap versions. Dimpled TS mags work the same way but you have to run a skinnier spring cause the standard spring will bind on the dimples.


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[zhuk]

Matt is right; we have an entire country of 10 rnd mags, with about 99% of IPSC Production shooting CZs. Restricted magazines of any kind are illegal here, so shooters who compete internationally have to have their 15rnd mags held by a dealer until they need to be be exported to the competition destination country.

Why Australia cannot hold international regional IPSC comps...no one is going to come here if forced to use 10rnd mags 

[taylorkh]

Thank you folks. Very interesting and enlightening.

Ken

[Jmoser]

Anyone in free states ever remove the dimples?  The 10 rd mags were cheaper so I ordered a couple; for PPC we only load 6 anyway.
Reminds me of the 870 mag tube - have to remove dimples if you want an extension.

Don't see why carefully drilling out the dimples would compromise anything as long as you don't leave burrs on the inside.

Disclaimer - I am in MI where we have no mag capacity restrictions [I fled NJ 18 years ago thank God.]

These are in the mail so I will take a closer look when they arrive.

[Luvdog]

Anyone in free states ever remove the dimples?  The 10 rd mags were cheaper so I ordered a couple; for PPC we only load 6 anyway.
Reminds me of the 870 mag tube - have to remove dimples if you want an extension.

where did you find them cheaper?  Usually, when I'm looking they are more expensive than standard capacity mags

[Walt Sherrill]

While state law may change so that only 10-round mags can be purchased, many states "grandfather" existing magazines.

What is the case for your sister's state?  You may not need to get her 10-round mags, but you may need to document that the mags SHE has came with the gun (or were purchased before the change took place).   I don't know HOW you'd do that, but someone here who has gone through this type of fiasco may have some ideas.

[Jmoser]

where did you find them cheaper?  Usually, when I'm looking they are more expensive than standard capacity mags
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Buds Guns- MecGars

[taylorkh]

Thanks for the reply Walt Sherrill,

I am not sure of the details. I understand that the law is currently being appealed and is (I think) on hold pending the court action.  From what she has told me:

you cannot buy nor sell magazines > 10 round
you cannot possess them
you cannot transport them
you cannot ship them
you must destroy, convert to less than 10 round or turn in to (police or someone not clearly specified)

This makes it difficult to deal with them as you are not allowed to get them out of the state,  to a gunsmith for conversion nor to whomever you are supposed to turn them in to. I guess you are supposed to hire a gunsmith to come to where the magazines are to "convert" them although what constitutes and approved "conversion" is of course not specified in the law. Etc.

A couple of years ago I de-Glocked my collection. A local dealer listed a couple on gunbroker for me and handled the transfers. A G21 went to a buyer in Connecticut I think it was. He was more interested in the fact that it had several non-drop free mags than the pistol itself. These were made during certain years and were clearly "pre-ban" from the state's point of view. I am left with several brand new G21 drop free mags for which I have no use.

Let me not get on my soapbox 

Ken