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Offline cntrydawwwg

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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2019, 09:18:00 PM »
I have seen that a few times on the forum over the years. Each time unfortunately was due to the right side hole being opened up a bit accidentally. Not saying that?s what you did, it is possible it?s an out of speck pin. IIRC, a couple had to be staked. I think I read of one that was loctited to the frame, not sure if an update was given to see if it worked. [emoji17]
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2019, 10:06:21 PM »
I have seen that a few times on the forum over the years. Each time unfortunately was due to the right side hole being opened up a bit accidentally. Not saying that?s what you did, it is possible it?s an out of speck pin. IIRC, a couple had to be staked. I think I read of one that was loctited to the frame, not sure if an update was given to see if it worked. [emoji17]

Appreciate the info.....I may just try to find my gauge and compare the old & new pins before I try to install the new pin, if for no other reason just to know. When referring to ?right side?, do you mean the side w/o the controls?  I?m thinking the side of the frame with the controls where the retaining washer is behind the decocker lever is the side that would be the problem.....then again maybe both holes are out of spec ::)  .......hopefully it?s just the sear cage pin  ???
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2019, 10:28:40 PM »
Here are the specs of an extra sear pin i have handy. Length: 0.982 and 0.118 dia. on both ends. Strange, i was under the impression that these were tapered towards one end.

If a replacement sear pin dose not solve the issue. Schmeky posted a while back about a fix that entailed swaging the right side frame hole using a gauge pin.
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P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2019, 10:50:39 PM »
I have seen that a few times on the forum over the years. Each time unfortunately was due to the right side hole being opened up a bit accidentally. Not saying that?s what you did, it is possible it?s an out of speck pin. IIRC, a couple had to be staked. I think I read of one that was loctited to the frame, not sure if an update was given to see if it worked. [emoji17]

Appreciate the info.....I may just try to find my gauge and compare the old & new pins before I try to install the new pin, if for no other reason just to know. When referring to ?right side?, do you mean the side w/o the controls?  I?m thinking the side of the frame with the controls where the retaining washer is behind the decocker lever is the side that would be the problem.....then again maybe both holes are out of spec ::)  .......hopefully it?s just the sear cage pin  ???
  Yes, I mean the Right side is the side without the controls. [emoji6] What happened in some of the threads I read was the pin was driven out L to R, causing the hole to widen, since it?s supposed to go out R to L. (Out the control/retaining ring side)
   
   A couple other threads I read, the pin was ?punched? out R to L, but the punch was either a hair too big, or was driven deep enough to hit the taper on the punch, causing the hole to widen.
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2019, 10:54:05 PM »
Here are the specs of an extra sear pin i have handy. Length: 0.982 and 0.118 dia. on both ends. Strange, i was under the impression that these were tapered towards one end.

If a replacement sear pin dose not solve the issue. Schmeky posted a while back about a fix that entailed swaging the right side frame hole using a gauge pin.

Swagging?......what?s that?
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 11:07:15 PM »
Yes, I mean the Right side is the side without the controls. [emoji6] What happened in some of the threads I read was the pin was driven out L to R, causing the hole to widen, since it?s supposed to go out R to L. (Out the control/retaining ring side)
   
   A couple other threads I read, the pin was ?punched? out R to L, but the punch was either a hair too big, or was driven deep enough to hit the taper on the punch, causing the hole to widen.

Totally get what your saying.....but after 150 rounds? Seems like it would have shown up long before that
many rounds, and like I said the pin starts to move out now just dry firing a few times....it will be interesting to see how this shakes out.....
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2019, 11:58:14 PM »
And I see what you?re saying. It?s possible that it took the 150 to finish opening up the hole. I hope you are able to get it figured out. As Tok said, maybe a call to CGW will help.


I?m thinking the side of the frame with the controls where the retaining washer is behind the decocker lever is the side that would be the problem.....
    I may be missing something, how could this side be the problem?
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2019, 01:39:37 AM »
^^I figure he was thinking that the fixing insert  might fall out if the pin moved.

Swaging as in forming the hole by moving material in towards the center thereby decreasing the size of the hole so that the pin can not walk out.

From what I gather you drive a steel pin into the side of the frame at the sear cage pin hole. I have not had the opportunity to attempt this process, my sear pins have stayed put. No fun. ;D
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2019, 02:03:21 PM »
Oddly enough one of the possible ?fixes?, using some loctite to hold the pin in place, I am trying.  Have dry-fired a hundred times, with a snap cap in the chamber and it hasn?t budged.  Will take it to the range in the next few days and see how it holds up.....will attempt a couple hundred rounds  :)  I? m pretty sure it will hold fine, it just keeps the cage in place, there isn?t a tremendous amount of force working on the pin.....even normally it?s only the tension between the pin & frame through the hole in the frame keeping it in place, the loctite will most likely even be stronger.....we?ll see  ::)
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2019, 02:19:25 PM »
Really like what you've done.  Just goes to show ya what a few upgrades can do for an average, ordinary P-01. 

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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2019, 03:52:28 PM »
Looks great.

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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2019, 10:46:19 PM »
Looks great! I have a stock P-01 that I want to make my EDC, but I need a few upgrades like the ones you list. Is the overall width of that rear sight wider than the width of the pistol? I like the i-dot setup, but am willing to sacrifice that for a more streamlined setup, especially since I do fine with 3 dot setups.

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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2019, 11:22:46 PM »
Looks great! I have a stock P-01 that I want to make my EDC, but I need a few upgrades like the ones you list. Is the overall width of that rear sight wider than the width of the pistol? I like the i-dot setup, but am willing to sacrifice that for a more streamlined setup, especially since I do fine with 3 dot setups.

The site width is the same as the width of the widest part of the dovetail cutout on the slide, so essentially much thinner than the width of the slide itself...the 4th picture in the original post is representative of the sights width compared to the slides width.   Also thanks for the compliment on the P01.....really like the P01 a lot!  Though I haven't mentioned it in a prior post, its very accurate and smooth shooting.....just had/have to work out some kinks it had from the factory  :)  Its a keeper for sure!
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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2019, 04:54:22 PM »
Nice P01. That polish job looks great. Almost makes me want to take mine back apart and get it shinier...almost lol.

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Re: P01 project complete......UPDATE
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2019, 07:14:55 PM »
Lookin' good.