Agonizing over choice of CZ model for EDC... Anyone have any input? SP01 vs P09

[ShinZm]

So to preface, I've yet to touch any CZ pistol in my entire life, but for 9mm the choice is pretty clear for me.

I currently carry an FNX .45 (non-tactical), and it is comfortable and fairly easily concealable for me due to my size of 6'5 with a large frame. I carry decocked, safety off, so decockers are a deal breaker for me in a carry gun. For any kind of precision shooting, I always go for a 1911 (learned on one as my first pistol), so that may be a factor in choosing between these models.

Recently, as I was really looking into ballistics I started thinking about large frame 9mm's with crazy high caps as an EDC replacement, and that naturally led me to CZ. I've yet to hold one, but I will be trying these as rentals soon. (I did mess around with an EAA Witness 10mm, which appears to copy quite a bit from the CZ 75B design? Definitely remember liking the feel on that.)

SP-01 and P-09.

The SP-01 seems to have a weight that is far closer to my FNX (Steel frame sounds great also!), which I'm well adjusted to, but that 21 rounder for the P-09 along with stock night sights at that price is a massive call for attention as well, so I've been very conflicted for the past few days... 

Does anyone own both, or have used both enough to give me some insight into the quirks of the models? I predict that I will definitely enjoy the SP-01's steel frame more, but that 21+1 capacity option for the P-09 is a big deal in and of itself. (I realize it's just 3 more rounds, but this has seriously been wracking my brain for days. OCD is awesome! I actually woke up thinking about it and decided to finally just join the forum and ask...)

Absolutely any input, no matter how minute, would be helpful and appreciated. I will definitely report back when I get a hands-on at the range in about 2 weeks. Even better if someone has ever touched the FNX and could provide some comparisons/contrasts.

(P-07 is also an option, but I don't really see a reason to go compact when I'm already sitting cozy with an FNX carried iwb. lol)

[osubuckeye78]

Sp01 all day. It is HIGHLY unlikely you?ll ever need 21+1 in the unfortunate event of a gun fight. If you find yourself in such a predicament, you better hope you?re close to a rifle and can use that pistol to fight your way to it because you?re in a seriously bleeped up situation

[Goju]

?I carry decocked, safety off, so decockers are a deal breaker for me in a carry gun?

Help me understand this statement? Are you saying that you are planning on carrying the SP01 or P09 in condition 1?

[ShinZm]

?I carry decocked, safety off, so decockers are a deal breaker for me in a carry gun?

Help me understand this statement? Are you saying that you are planning on carrying the SP01 or P09 in condition 1?

Condition 2. Round chambered, hammer decocked and resting in safe position.
That's how I choose to carry my FNX, but it looks like that's actually the ONLY option for carrying chambered for the P09/SP01 unless you swap the decocker for the thumb-safety if I'm not mistaken.

[ShinZm]

Sp01 all day. It is HIGHLY unlikely you?ll ever need 21+1 in the unfortunate event of a gun fight. If you find yourself in such a predicament, you better hope you?re close to a rifle and can use that pistol to fight your way to it because you?re in a seriously bleeped up situation

This actually makes me laugh at myself, because I completely agree with you - but also have this weird mindset of "If I can carry more, why not?", which is exactly what got me to save up for the FNX years ago. lol

Anything about the SP-01 that just feels better for you? I'm definitely already onboard with the steel frame.

[Goju]

Wouldn?t the point of carrying a DA/SA pistol be to utilize the DA portion of the trigger press in lieu of manual manipulation of a safety?
And welcome BTW!

[Goju]

P09 has changeable backstraps to fit your had size
P09 will give you the option to try a decocker set up if you would want to check that out down the road
SP01 will have cheaper mags

[osubuckeye78]

Sp01 all day. It is HIGHLY unlikely you?ll ever need 21+1 in the unfortunate event of a gun fight. If you find yourself in such a predicament, you better hope you?re close to a rifle and can use that pistol to fight your way to it because you?re in a seriously bleeped up situation

Anything about the SP-01 that just feels better for you? I'm definitely already onboard with the steel frame.

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Nothing in particular. I own one and have shot my buddies P09. Both are fantastic pistols, I?m just partial to my sp01. You can?t go wrong really

[Rcher]

It's a bit crazy, but you can try ProMag 32rnds magazine on SP-01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0V0JxcA_98

  Yes, I know 32rnds is not a carry option, and ProMag magazines are not the most reliable.

[ShinZm]

Wouldn?t the point of carrying a DA/SA pistol be to utilize the DA portion of the trigger press in lieu of manual manipulation of a safety?
And welcome BTW!

Thanks for the welcome! That's exactly the way I carry and will continue to carry. I may have worded it weird or something. Still riding the coffee train back to reality, I suppose... lol

So just to make it clear, If you're familiar with the FNX (Or the 92FS/M9), what I do is chamber the first round, push the safety DOWN to decock the hammer, and leave the safe off. To me, that feels like the safest/most efficient way to carry, as I don't have to worry about messing with an external safety in a crisis - but also have a heavy first pull that turns my first shot into a real commitment.

P09 has changeable backstraps to fit your had size
P09 will give you the option to try a decocker set up if you would want to check that out down the road
SP01 will have cheaper mags

I actually JUST noticed that the steel-framed SP-01 doesn't appear to have any option for a decocker like the P-09 does, unless there's a 3rd party option somewhere? I intended to run with that setup by default.

I also hadn't thought about the backstraps, which will probably be a fairly big deal for me with my monster hands. Thanks for bringing that up!

So it sounds like the SP-01 has no option for a decocker outside of the polymer versions, and that's actually really pushing me over to the P-09. I do see that the SP-01 could just be manually decocked, but I've never felt comfortable with that. Just a personal hangup. I assume it does have a safe position somewhere along the hammer travel, though?

I think I'm probably going to end up going for the P-09, and consider the SP-01 later on (unless it feels so good to shoot that one could feasibly say it was crafted by God Himself. XD).
Looks like I'll save a good $100 or so locally with that route, so that's a plus.

I'm definitely still interested in hearing more thoughts, since this is going to be my first step into CZ's and I'm honestly loving everything I've seen thus far. 

[osubuckeye78]

Sp01 Tactical has a decocker and is steel frame

[ShinZm]

It's a bit crazy, but you can try ProMag 32rnds magazine on SP-01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0V0JxcA_98

  Yes, I know 32rnds is not a carry option, and ProMag magazines are not the most reliable.

Oh my God, it's beautiful. XD

Yes, I know 32rnds is not a carry option, and ProMag magazines are not the most reliable.

...Hold my beer. lmao

[Earl Keese]

The SP-01 Tactical has a de-cocker. I wear 2XL gloves and much prefer the SP-01 frame over the P-09. To get a decent grip on the 09 I ended up with a Hogue wrap on it. I just couldn't get comfortable with the 09 so I sold it. For reference, I added palm swell grips to my 97 because the OEM grips weren't thick enough. You really need to hold both if at all possible. And promags are complete crap.

[Goju]

SP 01 Phantom has the port side decock lever, has a polymer frame with changeable backstraps, and uses standard 75 series mags. What you described in your previous post, you do want a decocker model in a CZ.

...and what Earl said about Pro Mags.

[ThompsonCustom]

Go with the sp01, if you want more capacity just upgrade for mags with different base pads and followers depending on how much more you want. At 140mm length the p09 and the 75 series mags both hold 23rd and at 170mm your looking at 27 to 28rds.