Author Topic: AT84s - Could someone please help me out and let me know what I have and value!?  (Read 3248 times)

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Offline Edean3rd

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I bought this from a friend who gave me a deal because I needed a pistol. I haven?t found a whole lot of information on this particular pistol. I know it?s either a moderate quality and price or fairly valuable and high quality. If it is the later intend on letting my buddy know. He?s a good dude and I?m not sure he?d care either way but he should know. And honestly from what I?ve read has only peeked my curiosity. It?s an AT84s ITM SOLOTHURN. I know it?s most likely a tangfolio made. And imported by action arms. The company is no longer in business. What I?m unclear on is the year or ?pre 88? or after. And the value. I DO NOT intend on selling this . If it?s 1,000$ gun however, I wouldn?t feel right keeping it from this friend. He?s an older gent and more or less a father figured after mine died years ago when I was a youngster please feel free to lend info and your knowledge

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I?m trying to put picture on. However, I?m not exactly Tec savy

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Ok so I don?t know how I can put a dang picture on this thread. If you have knowledge about this particular pistol PLEASE email me and I?ll get pictures to you. I would really appreciate it. My emails is edean3rd@gmail.com

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Search on Sphinx AT84. 
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Offline jwc007

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Since the Swiss AT84s is a Cz Clone, your thread has been moved here.

To post a pic, you must have a Image Host, such as IMGUR, which I use.  Your Pic host may give you a pic link to copy(Ctrl+C) and paste (Ctrl+V) into the body of your post.
IF your pic host only gives you a bare URL, you will have to sandwich it between [ img ] URL [ /img ] minus the spaces which are for illustration only.
You'll have to learn how to use the Copy and Paste functions on your PC.

As there have been a few versions of the Swiss AT84's, depending upon date of manufacture, we will need to see a pic of it, to really know what you have.

Early AT84's were Tanfoglio Design based Cz Clones. Later production AT84's were more of an independent design, but still retained some of the Tanfoglio Design.
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Offline GeneticallySwiss

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Does it look kinda like this?

https://imageshack.com/i/pmdSNBSuj


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Offline Walt Sherrill

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Quote from: Edean3rd
It?s an AT84s ITM SOLOTHURN. I know it?s most likely a tangfolio made. And imported by action arms. The company is no longer in business. What I?m unclear on is the year or ?pre 88? or after. And the value. I DO NOT intend on selling this . If it?s 1,000$ gun however, I wouldn?t feel right keeping it from this friend. He?s an older gent and more or less a father figured after mine died years ago when I was a youngster please feel free to lend info and your knowledge

As I understand it, the AT-84  (not the AT-84s) is a true clone (i.e., a duplicate/copy).  The only other true CZ clones I've heard of were made by a firm in Great Britain and maybe by China's Norinco.  :)

I've been led to believe that the AT-84s is a CZ-pattern gun (not a true clone) based on Tanfoglio-made or Tanfoglio-licensed parts -- I don't know which.  The parts were assembled in Switzerland.  I think that some of the craftsmen and senior people who worked at ITM in Solotherm were among those who later developed the highly-regarded Sphinx pistols.   Sphinx guns are now being made in the U.S. by Kriss-USA, which was a subsidiary of the last Sphinx Company in Switzerland.   

The quality of most ITM-made guns was typically SWISS -- i.e., quite good.  I doubt that it's a $1000 gun, but maybe $400- $500 (?) for someone interested in a pre-B type CZ pattern gun.   I would expect these guns to go up a little in value over the next few years, as they're still great guns, and like pre-Bs, highly regarded by CZ lovers who know anything about them.

I've had a couple of the AT-84s gun, and still have a custom AT-84s that was supposedly built by a big-name 1980s/1990s gunsmith known for his IPSC guns. (Jim Boland, but I have no proof of that, except the quality of the work and the gun's "look.")  It could be confused with a CZ, but only the magazines are swapable.  You can get some parts from EAA or the usual gun part sources.   They look, feel, and generally shoot just like a CZ -- the oldest ones like a pre-B CZ-75.

Here's mine.  All sorts of custom features, extended beavertail and controls, and a full-length guide rod (which I'm not crazy about); it also has a weird Milllett custom rear sight (which is a negative, as the gunsmith cut away a bunch of the slide to fit it, nothing else can be fit, and Millett no longer makes it), and a mag well with custom grip work.  (I see, from looking at my photo that I need to do some polishing on the nickel-plated slide,  which I had re-done some time back.  The original slide of this gun was matte black, and somewhat scratched up.)