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Offline texas yankee

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New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« on: February 08, 2019, 08:31:31 AM »
I shot my CZ for the first time the other day and found that I was a much, much better shooter with the CZ versus my Glock - the CZ also just feels a lot better in my hands - I'm now diving into the CZ (a 75B Glossy Stainless) - learning more about the insides of the gun and doing some polishing of the contact surfaces, maybe buying a few substitution parts from Cajun Gun Works (like their floating trigger pin).

The 75B seems, for me, a bit heavy for concealed carry - would the CZ P-09 Duty be the closest polymer CZ model versus the 75B?

Also, in addition to the floating trigger pin, what'd be the top three replacements parts for a CZ 75B?  I'm not into any type of competitive shooting, just range time, and maybe concealed carry if the polymer version shoots similar for me.

Thanks in advance for any guidance and suggestions !

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019, 09:05:25 AM »
If you're thinking about carrying, I'd suggest the P-07 (which is probably what you were thinking of).
Honestly, instead of polishing I think you'd have more fun just shooting it until it's broken in. The difference is staggering and you'd get a chance to actually shoot the gun more and let it happen naturally. I've polished some and I've let some wear in naturally and enjoyed the ones that wore in through shooting more. (Besides which you'd have the opportunity to test the gun's reliability.)

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 09:23:08 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions, Meechy7648 - truth is, I like tinkering with the guns and learning about how they work almost as much as I like shooting them - and being retired, I have plenty of time to do both.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 09:26:30 AM »
Although not polymer the P-01 or PCR is worth considering since the difference in weight against the P-07 is minimal because of the aluminum frame.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 09:42:30 AM »
Also wondering, since I have the pistol disassembled now, I figured that now would be a good time for me to ask about converting the gun to SAO - is all that's required to convert the gun to SAO is to leave out the disconnector?  If so, can I continue to use the original trigger with the disconnector removed?

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 09:48:38 AM »
Also, the P-07/09 guns feel different than the 75--so try one before you commit.  The internals are very different.  The suggestion for the P-01 and PCR are good ones because those guns feel similar grip shape and trigger reach wise to the one you like but are lighter and/or smaller.  But, if you like the fit/feel of a 4" barrel P-07, it is a fine carry gun option.  I love'em all.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 10:04:14 AM »
Also wondering, since I have the pistol disassembled now, I figured that now would be a good time for me to ask about converting the gun to SAO - is all that's required to convert the gun to SAO is to leave out the disconnector?  If so, can I continue to use the original trigger with the disconnector removed?

You need a trigger with both pretravel and overtravel screws.  CGW has them.  I think I used an 85C single action trigger that had one screw added.  You don't have to take the disconnector out (because the trigger with the pretravel stop will not go forward enough to re-engage it), but it is a good idea if you have it apart anyway. 

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 10:17:34 AM »
Remove the disconnector and try it.  I don't know. 
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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 10:40:01 AM »
I should have done more research before posting the follow-up trigger question - I just saw a Youtube video where a guy shows that the original trigger will work with the disconnector out to convert the gun to SAO, but the pre-travel and reset are far more than with the SAO trigger - the SAO trigger isn't that expensive.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2019, 10:57:28 AM »
 SP-01 Phantom is an option if you want that 75 "feel" with a polymer frame.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 11:09:45 AM »
I'm kinda all over the place with this post, but I'm also wondering, since I have the gun completely disassembled now, if, when I remove the disconnector and replace the trigger with a SAO trigger, should I also pick up a spacer to replace the firing pin block lever along with the firing pin block and spring?  I generally don't like firing pin blocks and their associated components - will removing them case any problems for a range gun?  Should I anticipate much trigger improvement with the FPB removed?

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2019, 11:17:10 AM »
The SP-01 Phantom, mentioned above, is the CZ polymer handgun that most closely matches the 75B. Amazingly accurate and reliable. A true pleasure to shoot. I have 2 75Bs (including a high polished stainless), 2 P-01s, and a Phantom. The Phantom is arguably the most accurate CZ I own.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2019, 05:15:09 PM »
I'm kinda all over the place with this post, but I'm also wondering, since I have the gun completely disassembled now, if, when I remove the disconnector and replace the trigger with a SAO trigger, should I also pick up a spacer to replace the firing pin block lever along with the firing pin block and spring?  I generally don't like firing pin blocks and their associated components - will removing them case any problems for a range gun?  Should I anticipate much trigger improvement with the FPB removed?

Yes, get the spacer and you can remove the lever and tiny spring as well as the fpsb and spring.  I have done so on mine, just so that I could feel the sear on the hammer hooks without the additional "feel" from the fpsb lifting.  I have only done this on my bullseye match gun slides, not the carry/defensive guns.
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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2019, 06:04:50 PM »
The SP-01 Phantom, mentioned above, is the CZ polymer handgun that most closely matches the 75B. Amazingly accurate and reliable. A true pleasure to shoot. I have 2 75Bs (including a high polished stainless), 2 P-01s, and a Phantom. The Phantom is arguably the most accurate CZ I own.

How is the Phantom in recoil compared to the 75B?  When I hold new Phantoms their recoil system feels very light compared to an SP01 or P09.

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Re: New CZ shooter - polymer equivalent to CZ-75B stainless?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2019, 07:55:36 PM »
The SP-01 Phantom, mentioned above, is the CZ polymer handgun that most closely matches the 75B. Amazingly accurate and reliable. A true pleasure to shoot. I have 2 75Bs (including a high polished stainless), 2 P-01s, and a Phantom. The Phantom is arguably the most accurate CZ I own.

How is the Phantom in recoil compared to the 75B?  When I hold new Phantoms their recoil system feels very light compared to an SP01 or P09.

I don?t notice much (any) difference in recoil between my Phantom and my 75Bs. The Phantom is one of my favorite handguns. My 75Bs weigh 36 ounces unloaded and the Phantom is just under 30 ounces. In 9mm, that's plenty of weight to mitigate recoil...not counting the extra weight of 18+ rounds of ammo.