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Offline GLincon2

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Gun cleaner/cleaning
« on: September 16, 2019, 08:50:14 PM »
Hello, I am new to this and have a SP01. I need some advice on a gun cleaning kit and I was going to look at you tube for how to clean my gun. What kit or products would you suggest I look at to buy? Also is you tube a good source for the info or is there somewhere else I should look?
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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 09:34:39 PM »
You need a cleaning rod https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NOVF92/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Butches bore shine https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003IX6AKA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

bore brushes https://smile.amazon.com/Tipton-Piece-Bronze-Brush-Rifle/dp/B004UC1G8O/ref=sr_1_16?keywords=tipton+brass+bore+brushes&qid=1568683257&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-16

Jags https://smile.amazon.com/Tipton-Piece-Rifle-Brass-Jag/dp/B0000C1COV/ref=pd_bxgy_2/135-4342720-5758300?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0000C1COV&pd_rd_r=fd7ffaa0-8365-4fc0-accd-5e8c2cb3dfea&pd_rd_w=irkFW&pd_rd_wg=223GT&pf_rd_p=a2006322-0bc0-4db9-a08e-d168c18ce6f0&pf_rd_r=PFXZ5CRX1DFPTZN93056&psc=1&refRID=PFXZ5CRX1DFPTZN93056

Slotted tip jags https://smile.amazon.com/Tipton-554428-Solid-Slotted-Handgun/dp/B0048KM8VC/ref=pd_sim_b2b_5/135-4342720-5758300?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0048KM8VC&pd_rd_r=887562c6-36c9-4e21-a2cb-acf8903fb294&pd_rd_w=5fWmd&pd_rd_wg=GI8xh&pf_rd_p=a07701e4-f565-442a-b97f-93ab23cbb7ef&pf_rd_r=E9AAWJ9WV82D3D9PA6FC&psc=1&refRID=E9AAWJ9WV82D3D9PA6FC

Patches https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008P8EU50/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Spray https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TNXGMK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

gun oil https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0031D0G4I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

grease https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C7YUMQ4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You get much better quality buying individual items and a case from Home Depot to store it all in.

first disassemble the gun and using a patch and a slotted tip jag run Butches bore shine down the barrel and let sit 3 minutes. clean the feed ramp and surrounding areas with spray and a tooth brush. Run a number of patches through the barrel and when they come out clean put spray on them and do it again. Last patch has oil.

Spray everything down and wipe up with paper towel. Grease barrel and slides and reassemble the gun

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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 10:02:45 PM »
Otis cleaning kit + a good CLP...that will cover all your needs initially.   

Offline GLincon2

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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 10:38:20 PM »
Thanks I needed some advice, to start I think a kit is a good place

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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2019, 12:17:52 AM »
First of all !!!  Welcome to the forum, GLincon2 ! 
     Youtube has dozens of videos on gun cleaning available. After watching a few, you'll get a good idea what supplies and tools you need to do the job. Actually you may get a bit more anxious when you realize each is using different cleaners, materials, and techniques. Some folks like to clean their firearms after each use, and some fire a thousand rounds between cleanings. I'm one of the clean freaks that doesn't like putting them away before field stripping and cleaning, but quality firearms are pretty hardy machines.
     Establishing a relationship with a local gun shop or range is also a great way to pick up some pointers too !
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 12:16:34 PM »
Welcome to the forum!
You will get a-lot of good info and help from the members here. You don’t need to stress about information overload, I’m sure you’ll figure this out in short order. I will add these points to the conversation:
- There are a ton of good products on the market. I am not going to mention any because I don’t want this thread to devolve into a “my product(s) work best” debate. If you use quality cleaning and lubricating products on a schedule you are comfortable with, that is more important than the products themselves. (WD-40 not withstanding 😀)
- The other issue is to research and decide if you are going to go with a single clean/lube/protect (CLP) product, or use a separate product for each area of maintainance. I will add my editorial comment on this by saying that I am of the mindset that CLPs are “jack of all trades, master of none” products, and for that reason I, and many, use separate products. But CLP products work well for many shooters too. It depends on what you need to accomplish based on what you are shooting, and your firearms storage climate. For example, If you are shooting only copper plated or jacked bullets, you will need a cleaner that will work for copper. If you are only shooting lead or coated bullets, you don’t need a cleaner that is a beast on copper. If you live and store your firearms in a high humidity climate, you are really going to want to use the best protectant you can find. There are plenty of salt spray tests that you can search for, specific to firearms, to help identify great from poor performing products (if you feel this is important for you).
Sorry for the novel, but I hope this helps.

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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2019, 01:42:24 PM »
I have a small aluminum rod that appears to come from an old S&W revolver box (brushes, tips, etc. are long gone over 30 or 40 years - but the rod still works like new).  I buy brushes and patch tips when a see a good price on them and just store extras away till I need them.  Brushes will wear out, patch tips not so much but I tend to give them to family often enough I sometimes need one.

An old tooth brush can be used to scrub around on parts that are hard to reach or just benefit from brushing to remove deposits that need to be removed.

A good powder solvent.  You know, I don't even use that every time.  Sometimes, depending on rounds fired and ammo/powder/bullets and even the pistol I shoot a patch down the barrel followed by 4 or 5 passes of a dry brush followed by another patch or two and the barrel is nice and shiny and no lumps, patched of crud, etc. remaining.

Some type of lubricant.  I only use oil (some folks use grease on parts of a pistol oil on other parts).  I over oil.  Always have.  I don't live in the desert or some other dry dusty environment so I don't worry about oil attracting/holding dirt.  In my experience oil (excess oil) helps flush some of the crud out, but only when you use lots of it and don't mind getting dirty from the oil and the powder residue it washes out of the gun.

Patches?  I have bought new patches in a long time.  When my wife says it's time to stop wearing a t-shirt or pair of underwear due to holes/tears I grab it out of the dryer after it's last washing and sit down with a pair of scissors and cut it into cleaning patches.  I cut different sizes (have old coffee containers of small, medium, and large patches I replenish my baggies of patches from) and store them till needed.  I won't be running out for years.  I get the oily cloths I use to wipe off excess oil and wipe down the metal surfaces of guns from the same sources.  Current oily cloths are pieces of a pair of old sweat pants.  I prefer cotton to polyester for patches.  Seems both more absorbent and seems to hold more crud (less passes through the barrel.

Every so often (not so much with the pistols as with the AR15s) I'll use some carb. or brake cleaner to really get in the cracks/crevices and spray out the built up crud.  Wear safety glasses (you don't want that stuff splashing into your eyes, BTDT HOLY COW THAT BURNS!!) and don't get it on the rubber/plastic.  It won't harm all plastic/rubber compounds but I've got a mushy looking spot in my Ruger Mk1 from carb cleaner I got on it over 30 years ago (it got hard again when the solvent evaporated by the checkering mashed down/smeared pretty good when it was wet.)  If you use carb/brake cleaner take the grips off the pistol.  I've used brake cleaner (not carb. cleaner) on my Glock once or twice but I'm not using it on my P07 or P09, not taking any chances with those two pistols.

There's clean enough and there's OCD clean.  Your pistol doesn't need to be OCD clean.  The drill sgt. won't be inspecting it before you turn it in at the company armory.  If does need to be clean enough and lubricated enough for you to feel 100% sure it will operate correctly for you when you need it.

I clean/lube mine after every range session.  Whether it's 150 rounds or 30, or even 5.  I sometimes clean my carry pistol even when I haven't shot it.  It gets lint, dust, dirt, etc. built up on it just from carrying it.  Whether it's the one I carry concealed when I went to Home Depot this morning or the one I carried concealed while I was crawling around in the grass/dirt changing the oil/filter in my Coupe after I came back.

I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2019, 07:54:30 PM »
You really can't go wrong with Ballistol, and by "go wrong" I mean to say that it may not be the best tool for every job, but you aren't going to screw anything up with it.  You aren't going to poison or blind yourself, discolor your polymer frame or melt your rubber grips, or anything like that.  It's a really good all-purpose cleaner and lubricant, not too harsh or toxic, but not as strong or fast-acting as some other things.  Using stuff like acetone, brake cleaner, etc. has its time and place, but you need to be careful with that stuff.  I personally only use that stuff on metal parts like the barrel, or the internals of the frame after I have detail stripped it.  Also not a bad idea to clean your firing pin and related parts from the firing pin channel, and the channel itself, with one of these industrial-strength de-greasers, at least every one or two thousand rounds.  You really don't want any oil or grease in your firing pin channel, gooping things up and causing light strikes.  You want it either un-lubricated, or lubricated with a dry film type of lubricant.

I've been using the cleaning rod and patch cloth approach towards cleaning guns for the few decades I've owned them, but recently started looking more at bore snakes and pull-through cable cleaners like the Otis kits.  I'm planning to start running a bore snake through my pistols, while they're still hot at the range, to see how much easier that makes cleaning them after I get home.  I'll probably report back on that.


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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2019, 10:22:22 PM »
GLincon2, I'm a "newbie" with CZ, but not in a firearm business. Treat your gun as a tool, machine which works in any condition. Do not caress it. Make a research (You Tube is a great source, just watch ton of them to create your own practice). Eventually you will find what works best for you. Just remember - don't run your gun dry and don't over lube it !

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2019, 12:08:22 AM »
After 35+ years of cleaning my handguns, I took the advice of Hickok45 and tried Ballistol. Awesome stuff. Like stated above maybe not the strongest, but you will enjoy not having your hands turn to leather or a loved one wanting to air out the house. I still use Sweets on the barrel when needed. I don't shoot unplated bullets.

As for rods and stuff, Pro-Shot Products. Made in the US. A little more $$$$, cry once, buy once. A lot of the offshore stuff is soft cr@p. IMO.  And made in China.

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2019, 12:10:00 AM »
Oh, and I really like Lucas Oil gun oil and grease.

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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2019, 03:01:31 PM »
+1 on Ballistol

+1 on the Lucas Gun Oil and Grease

For general cleaning, preservative, and some lubrication, I use Ballistol.  For cleaning the Bore, I use PB Blaster penetrating oil.  I also use Disc Brake Cleaner to clean out metal assemblies and remove solvent.  For Polymer Assemblies, I use Polymer Safe Gunscrubber.

For General Lubrication, Mobil 1 10w30.  For Heavy Lubrication, straight 30w High Detergent Motor Oil.
For Grease in the appropriate places, Automotive Hi-Temp Synthetic Bearing Grease, available at most Discount Department Stores.
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2019, 09:45:57 PM »
For the OP’s reference

http://www.guncleaningtips.com/the-best-gun-clps-corrosion-and-lubrication-tests/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJSLPLpF5U

http://www.dayattherange.com/?page_id=3667

I have used Ballistol for over 25 years and I have to say it is the most overrated product I keep seeing being recommended. The only thing it does well is to clean carbon fouling, so I use it to clean my SGs during hunting season. Otherwise, its a dud IMHO.



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Re: Gun cleaner/cleaning
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2019, 11:23:52 AM »
One of the YouTube guys I like is Gunblue490. He's got a great video on "cleaning handguns" as well as one on "oil/lube". You may find his stuff helpful if you're looking for direction in caring for your firearms. There's a ton of stuff online that I would consider poor advise. Brownell's is a great source for quality rods and related accessories and products. If they don't have it you don't need it :-)
Enjoy your new shooter :-)
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