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Offline CZs_V8Volvos

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When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« on: November 08, 2019, 11:58:32 AM »
Do you leave your firearm at home?
Or keep the unloaded gun in a locked case or in a locked gun rack?

Thanks for all your replies.
The Polk County resolution includes  a clause
to the pro-resolution stance. It says,
“The criminal misuse of firearms is due to the fact that criminals do not obey laws, and this is not a reason to abrogate or abridge the unalienable, constitutionally guaranteed rights of law-abiding citizens."

Offline RoverSig

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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 12:23:24 PM »
I can only recommend reading your state's law, and following it very carefully.  Here in Virginia, the current law appears to allow a person to have a gun under the circumstances you mention, but only under specific conditions (see the paragraph on exceptions, below):

§ 18.2-308.1. Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited; penalty.

A. If any person knowingly possesses any (i) stun weapon as defined in this section; (ii) knife, except a pocket knife having a folding metal blade of less than three inches; or (iii) weapon, including a weapon of like kind, designated in subsection A of § 18.2-308, other than a firearm; upon (a) the property of any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (b) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (c) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.


The law does have exceptions in sub-para C:

The provisions of this section shall not apply to...    (vi) a person who possesses an unloaded firearm that is in a closed container, or a knife having a metal blade, in or upon a motor vehicle, or an unloaded shotgun or rifle in a firearms rack in or upon a motor vehicle; (vii) a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit and possesses a concealed handgun while in a motor vehicle in a parking lot, traffic circle, or other means of vehicular ingress or egress to the school...

A gray area might exist if you are on a public street adjacent to the school when you let the child out of the car.  I wouldn't dare provide legal advice on this or any other area -- if in doubt, consult an attorney who specializes in this area of your state's laws.  There might also be, at least under Virginia law, a gray area concerning what is meant by a "closed container," but again, consulting an attorney might reveal how actual case law defines it. 
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Offline Earl Keese

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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 07:45:13 PM »
Never leave home without it. Always carry, never tell.

Offline AZ_CZ

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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 08:15:34 PM »
Read your state laws.

I use to pick up my kids on a regular basis and would think about that once in awhile. Consider this scenario; you're in the parking lot or car pick up lane and something goes down -- Are you sitting there dialing 911, running in to help with a pocket knife, or what......
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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 10:41:43 PM »
Isn't your vehicle an extension of your home?

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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2019, 07:00:38 AM »
Isn't your vehicle an extension of your home?

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It is in my state.

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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2019, 12:21:00 PM »
Isn't your vehicle an extension of your home?

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Depends on your State but even then, even here in Pro2A AZ, there are restrictions. Every state has them and you should know what yours are. Then you can make informed decisions on what you're carry options are. Speaking for myself and I would not encourage anyone to follow my example, but I don't wait 30 minutes before going back in the pool to swim.

This site has a nice breakdown by state. Even better it has direct links to the relevant Statues (at least in some that I looked at).

This question is an example of why we need a Federal CCW policy or no laws at all.

https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws-state/#az2

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Re: When you drop off/pick up your child in school...
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 05:20:51 PM »
If I remember correctly, in Texas, if someone has a CHL they can carry all the way up to any threshold that enters a school but not enter. But...”always carry, never tell”?!...

 

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