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Offline Vinny

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2019, 07:24:34 PM »
Sorry, been outta town. The safety on all my Tanfoglio pistols can be actuated with the hammer in any position. I believe TriStar/Caniks of the CZ platform are the same as Tanfoglio. I like hammer down, safety on because if I’m ever in a high stress draw situation adrenaline will make a heavy DA trigger pull feel like nothing. No one knows how they’re going to react in that situation unless you have experienced it and I have not. I want to minimize my chance of an accidental discharge because, of course, no one wants to live with having shot the wrong person or themself. So I practice the way I personally feel comfortable. The more I practice I may change my style but that’s where I’m at right now.
Completely understand your concern. Especially with children in other rooms of your house.
Do you use a pistol-mounted flashlight? Is the answer is yes; you might want to consider going to a handheld flashlight instead. Identifying a serious threat before drawing your pistol makes a whole lot of sense to me.
If you've then identified a serious threat, at that point IMHO having both a safety and a DA to me is redundant. JMO
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Offline Gunnerdad80

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2019, 07:46:49 PM »
My home defense gun is a Sarsilmaz CM9 and does have a mounted flashlight and is in a biometric safe with a full clip, one in the chamber, hammer down and safety on. When I pull it my trigger finger turns the light on then my thumb hits safety off. I never mind a DA first pull. I’d rather have a gun-mounted light so I can have a free hand if needed. My light also sticks out further than the barrel and is sturdy enough that if I got into a physical altercation with a home intruder his body wouldn’t push the slide out of battery preventing the gun from firing.
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Offline Vinny

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2019, 08:21:37 PM »
My home defense gun is a Sarsilmaz CM9 and does have a mounted flashlight and is in a biometric safe with a full clip, one in the chamber, hammer down and safety on. When I pull it my trigger finger turns the light on then my thumb hits safety off. I never mind a DA first pull. I’d rather have a gun-mounted light so I can have a free hand if needed. My light also sticks out further than the barrel and is sturdy enough that if I got into a physical altercation with a home intruder his body wouldn’t push the slide out of battery preventing the gun from firing.
Having the pistol mounted flashlight is OK. My point was that using a good handheld light to identify a real threat before drawing or raising your pistol would help avoid pointing your pistol as a light at someone you love, and therefore less chance of the type of ND you're trying to avoid. Easy enough to drop the light to free your hand if you're in a close encounter. Just say'in.
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Offline MadDuner

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2019, 08:51:39 PM »
If I’m investigating something in the dark and there’s even a remote chance I may need to draw my weapon - I’m going to have it drawn already with the weapon light turned on and simply exercise good trigger discipline.  I am quite capable of drawing my weapon under stress and not firing it.  Identifying a threat and THEN drawing my weapon will make as much sense to me as waiting until then to chamber a round in it.

Then again, everyone must measure their response based upon what they themselves are comfortable with vs the type of threats they may encounter.

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2019, 08:57:32 PM »
If I’m investigating something in the dark and there’s even a remote chance I may need to draw my weapon - I’m going to have it drawn already with the weapon light turned on and simply exercise good trigger discipline.  I am quite capable of drawing my weapon under stress and not firing it.  Identifying a threat and THEN drawing my weapon will make as much sense to me as waiting until then to chamber a round in it.

Then again, everyone must measure their response based upon what they themselves are comfortable with vs the type of threats they may encounter.

Agreed.

One, I think that people often confuse the role of a handheld flashlight and a WML. They aren't the same thing, and have different uses, though a flashlight can obviously have a great deal of self-defense value as well, in several ways.

But I think it's also important for people to remember that you don't have to aim your weapon directly at someone in order to sufficiently illuminate an area (esp. indoors) with a WML. Particularly these days, with extremely bright WMLs easily available. I can keep my weapon lowered, and still illuminate a room with a 600 lumens or more light.

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2019, 09:00:16 PM »
If I’m investigating something in the dark and there’s even a remote chance I may need to draw my weapon - I’m going to have it drawn already with the weapon light turned on and simply exercise good trigger discipline.  I am quite capable of drawing my weapon under stress and not firing it.  Identifying a threat and THEN drawing my weapon will make as much sense to me as waiting until then to chamber a round in it.

Then again, everyone must measure their response based upon what they themselves are comfortable with vs the type of threats they may encounter.

Agreed.

One, I think that people often confuse the role of a handheld flashlight and a WML. They aren't the same thing, and have different uses, though a flashlight can obviously have a great deal of self-defense value as well, in several ways.

But I think it's also important for people to remember that you don't have to aim your weapon directly at someone in order to sufficiently illuminate an area (esp. indoors) with a WML. Particularly these days, with extremely bright WMLs easily available. I can keep my weapon lowered, and still illuminate a room with a 600 lumens or more light.

My 1200 lumen Olight is pretty bright!

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2019, 09:56:32 PM »
I have an Olight too, good product.

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2019, 09:22:21 AM »
Been running an Olight PL mini on my P07 and PL-2 Valkyrie on my P09 and have been pleased with performance. My hand held Olight though is not my favorite. I choose my Streamlight hand held over it for sure.

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2019, 10:33:01 AM »
I run an Olight PL-Mini on my P-07 as well.

And I recently put an Olight Baldr-Pro on my Scorpion. That thing is insanely bright!

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Re: P-07 ...back to the future
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2019, 03:26:54 PM »
One, I think that people often confuse the role of a handheld flashlight and a WML. They aren't the same thing, and have different uses, though a flashlight can obviously have a great deal of self-defense value as well, in several ways.

But I think it's also important for people to remember that you don't have to aim your weapon directly at someone in order to sufficiently illuminate an area (esp. indoors) with a WML. Particularly these days, with extremely bright WMLs easily available. I can keep my weapon lowered, and still illuminate a room with a 600 lumens or more light.
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Agreed, many WML’s tend to be bright enough to illuminate the immediate area. I’d much rather have a free hand.