CZ Shadow Tac II

[IDF 2]

New Member. First post. TX Hill Country.

But not new to CZ - got my first 85 Combat maybe 12 years ago. Still have it, plus many others.

Question: Does anybody have experience with the Shadow Custom Tac II?

This model was discontinued a couple years ago, but there are still a few available out there. Have heard nothing but raves about it.

I am considering it for EDC, as it does not have a bulky accessory rail and does have a tritium FS. I always have carried a full size gun, so the weight and size are not an issue for me.

Is this worth getting vs a regular 75 Omega or 75B or 75 SA- which are great items and are less expensive. I would add night sights to any of those models, so that would add to my cost.

Custom shop guns are always outstanding IMO, but I notice there is no front strap or rear strap checkering.

Price comes in at about $1,100.

Opinions, please.

[1steelshooter]

I don't have that exact model but I have 75 shadow which is close to the same gun. Mine has a plain rear sight with a fiber optic front. The tac II looks to have a CZ Custom hammer while mine has the stock shadow hammer which is very good. The triggers are definately better on the shadows than on "B" models. On the shadows you can also switch out the disconnector which will eliminate all the pre travel when shooting single action. Mine has less than 1/8" pre travel. "B" models aren't like that. $1100 for the Shadow Tac II sounds fair. My 75 Shadow was $880 plus tax five years ago so I was close to $1000.

[IDF 2]

Yep, I'd also expect the Shadow Tac II to have a lighter, crisper trigger pull than the stock guns.

Does your Shadow have an accessory rail? Any idea on the trigger pull?

If I'm not mistaken the Shadows have about a 5" barrel vs 4.6" for the Shadow Tac II. I'm told it is a very heavy competition pistol with superb accuracy, but maybe not necessarily meant  for carry. Would that be your view?

[Tok36]

   The CZ Shadows have the Firing Pin Block removed from the design, this is the drop safety mechanism. Might not be the best for carry but everyone needs to make their own call.

   The trigger crispness can be improved to the same degree in any CZ 75 Variant. The asset of a Shadow and other Non Firing Pin Block CZs is a shorter reset and less overall Single Action trigger travel. The barrels should be the same length of any full size CZ 75 variant. In other words same as a CZ 75 B, SP-01 or CZ 75 SA. The CZ Tactical Sport dose have a longer barrel but it is quite a bit bigger than a standard full size CZ.

[1steelshooter]

Yep, I'd also expect the Shadow Tac II to have a lighter, crisper trigger pull than the stock guns.

Does your Shadow have an accessory rail? Any idea on the trigger pull?

If I'm not mistaken the Shadows have about a 5" barrel vs 4.6" for the Shadow Tac II. I'm told it is a very heavy competition pistol with superb accuracy, but maybe not necessarily meant  for carry. Would that be your view?

My gun looks almost identical to the Tac II, no rail. One thing it has the same safeties as mine which are extended. They stick out a bit if that matters for carry. On the trigger pull I'm running an extended firing pin with a 11lb. hammer spring. The double action I would guess to be around 6lbs. to 7lbs. and single action about 3lbs.  Stock the hammer spring is quite a bit heavier.

[IDF 2]

Got it.

Removal of Firing Pin Block might be a real consideration in whether it's wise to carry any Shadow.

I'm thinkin it might be better to get a stock, have trigger adjusted as desired and add the night sights.

Does anyone know if the trigger on the 75 SA model is different from the 75B? All things equal, I'd be partial to the SA, as I go way back as a 1911 guy and am most comfortable with SA.

Thank you both for the info.

[Tok36]

Got it.

Removal of Firing Pin Block might be a real consideration in whether it's wise to carry any Shadow.

I'm thinkin it might be better to get a stock, have trigger adjusted as desired and add the night sights.

Does anyone know if the trigger on the 75 SA model is different from the 75B? All things equal, I'd be partial to the SA, as I go way back as a 1911 guy and am most comfortable with SA.

Thank you both for the info.

    All of the CZ 75 Variants are very similar internally and have comparable trigger dynamics, this includes the 75B and 75 SA. Now there can be a difference in two of the same model CZ from the factory so it is not a bad idea to try one out before you buy it if possible. Generally the factory variance can be remedied through tuning and parts.

   I like the CZ 75 SA, i find it to be a nice compromise of the full length dust cover SP-01 and short dust cover 75 B. Let it be know that any CZ 75 variant safety model can be converted to Single Action Only if one prefers it. If the factory paddle safety of the CZ 75 SA sticks out too much there are lower profile safety available. The safety lever tension can also be increased if needed with some after market springs.

   A significant asset of getting a CZ in factory stock configuration is that you can break it in a bit and then improve what you feel the need to improve. Putting 500-1000 rounds trough a factory CZ can improve things markedly. Then the solid after market support is there if you need it.

[IDF 2]

Glad I joined the forum.

Much obliged.

[army_eod]

FP block?  Many 1911 platforms have no FP block; like the original military version.

[IDF 2]

Yes that's true: Many 1911s (such as Dan Wessons, I think) have no Firing Pin Block...And some do.

I believe Kimbers have the Swartz style FPB, and Colt Series 80s and other 1911 makes that copy that style have an FPB, too.

I am not sure what point you are making.

I don't carry a 1911, but own several and enjoy shooting them.

The lack of an FPB in the Shadow Tac II was good information for me to get from the forum, but probably not a decisive factor in whether to carry that model. I'm most concerned with the grip/checkering, sights, trigger, capacity and ease of carry (not partial to accessory rails for EDC).

Lots of folks think the FPB was invented by lawyers trying to fix a liability problem that doesn't really exist.

My view is everyone should know his own gun and it is totally the individual's responsibility to avoid any AD, firing pin block or not.

Just my $.02.

[Dred]

The lack of an FPB in the Shadow Tac II was good information for me to get from the forum, but probably not a decisive factor in whether to carry that model. I'm most concerned with the grip/checkering, sights, trigger, capacity and ease of carry (not partial to accessory rails for EDC).

Lots of folks think the FPB was invented by lawyers trying to fix a liability problem that doesn't really exist.

My view is everyone should know his own gun and it is totally the individual's responsibility to avoid any AD, firing pin block or not.

Just my $.02.

This.

Wish I had something to add.  But I'm posting mostly for my own affirmation.  I don't have any 1911s with the add-on firing pin bits either.  I'm impressed you know the difference between the Kimber Schwarz and Colt Series 80 parts - few do.

Thanks for raising my concerns for me.  I fretted hard over the Shadow 2 'cause the checkering is awesome, but went with the 75 Shadow to avoid the honk'n rail for carry.  It may be getting a fancy skateboard tape upgrade - we'll know soon.

CZs are funny in TX.  I rarely see'm at the range but I meet online CZ lovers frequently enough that I'm enthusiasically test'n the waters.

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[IDF 2]

Thanks for the reply.

I'm with ya on the honkin rail. I only like them  for the extra weight when I shoot 10mm - where it soaks up the recoil.

Otherwise, the rail is a non-starter for me except maybe for a nightstand gun where you'd actually Need the attached light.

I don't see a lot of CZs locally either, but most knowledgeable folks are aware they are fine guns. No matter where I go in TX or the USA, it's still mostly Glocks and M&Ps at the ranges. Sigh.

Just to digress - I mentioned 10mm. Would be outstanding if CZ put out a 10mm pistol. Maybe something based on the 97B fame?  One can always hope....

Best wishes

[Tok36]

A 10mm CZ has been done once as an experiment. If i remember correctly an SP-01 40 S&W slide was altered and used on a CZ 97 frame. Just a one off though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIK6cFPevmE

[Dred]

Just to digress - I mentioned 10mm.

LMBO ... 'cause we also evidently share a love of 10mm.  My 10mm pistol is a CZ by technicality - Dan Wesson's Silverback.  I'm gonna leave it at:  I love 10mm.

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[IDF 2]

Yep, hands down the best cartridge IMO. I've got a DW RZ 10, and am lusting for the DW Wraith in 10mm with threaded bbl.

Still, would love a production CZ 10mm, maybe based on the old SP-01 40 S&W or the 97B.

Management needs to pay attention.