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What would your reaction be if CZ announced the addition of a 10mm handgun? Would you buy one?

I'm buying one for sure!
Um, no...I couldn't care less.
It's a fad...that cartridge has only been around since 1983.
Only if they name it the Bren Ten Jeff Cooper Commemorative.
I'll wait for the pistol caliber carbine.

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Offline jmohme

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2020, 09:49:20 PM »
I like 10mm so yes, I would consider a 10mm CZ.

Offline Hammer Time

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2020, 08:17:46 PM »
After more experience shooting 10mm this year, I'll have to revise my previous statement. I think a SP-01 in 10mm would be the bee's knees.  ;)

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2020, 11:52:45 AM »
I picked up a used Rock Island Ultra Match in 10mm at a great price and have been shooting it off and on. It shoots great, really like it.  I would love to have a CZ in 10mm to add to my CZ collection. I think a CZ in 10mm would be a great gun.

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2021, 01:20:42 AM »
Cz is my favorite gun. As far as another 10mm from this company.....no.  Very bad experience with a Dan Wesson Kodiak, aweful.  Sent it back 3 times and they could not even fix a failure to feed/ return to battery.  3X. 😳.  Without a comment a check from them showed up at my house.   BS.  I guess that’s good, but this tri-color version is impossible to find.  Beautiful Pistol, I would have kept it as a paper weight.  Tang Elite and Jagare are awesome guns....bear killers 😂
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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2021, 08:05:02 AM »
10mm is a nice caliber, I wouldn't mind having one.
Every human has the right to firearm and self-protection.

Offline Joe L

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2021, 11:04:24 AM »
Not for me.  I can barely handle a .45!  And I love 9mm.  I'd rather have a .357Sig again if I wanted a less popular cartridge.  That's the ticket--.40 cal powder load pushing a 9mm JHP!  At 200 yards of course.   :) :)

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Offline bang bang

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2021, 12:02:39 PM »
i got my CZ in 10, in the round about way - conversion.


Offline The Principal

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2021, 07:57:28 PM »
10mm is awesome. I once owned a Glock 20, and besides the 2x4 grip, I thought It was great. I don’t hunt, so I ended up selling it and purchased another CZ .That being said, if CZ made a 10mm, and it was build around the caliber, I would be all in. If it was a 10 or 12 rounder in a p10f or 97b, i’d probably pass.

Offline rdcinhou

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2021, 05:58:03 AM »
My FK 7.5 BRNO PSD (polymer frame version of the Field Pistol) came with a 10mm barrel to swap out with the 7.5 FK barrel.

I took it to the range last Saturday for the first time.  It performed quite well with the 10mm barrel.

I also have a Dan Wesson Bruin in 10mm which is a 1911 frame/action but with a long slide/barrel.  That gun in awesome!

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Offline gnappi

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2021, 08:59:32 AM »
I'm 10'd out :-) With a Colt Gold Cup Delta Elite, an RIA wide body, and Tanfoglio I have the 10 well covered.

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2021, 11:26:26 AM »
@DenStinett ... my wallet HATES you.  But I ain't mad.  I should 'splain.

I saw the 3k tag on the 10 and just chuckled.  But $500 plus a 97 is prolly gonna cost me $500 and a 97.  Unless I stumble across a 10 DWX under 2k before I buy the conversion.  Yes, the conversion is up for purchase before a 97, but the 97 has been on my maybe list for plenty time.

I am a 10mm guy.  If I could only keep what I could carry ... it would be my only pistol caliber.  I'm a 1911 guy first and my Dan Wesson Silverback is a CZ.  Wildly (by my behavioral pattern), it is my only 10mm pistol.  But that's 'cause I haven't contemplated another that actually offers any improvements that matter to me.  To be fair, I have nearly bought the Bruin a few times 'cause I nearly convinced myself I'll hunt with it if I buy it.  Truth is, I'm still not a hunter.

At any rate, my Silverback has been on my hip since Winter Storm Uri came to town.  10mm just goes well with heavily layered bad guys.  With luck, I will edit in a photo of my beautiful 10mm CZ.



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Offline Hammer Time

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2021, 12:49:01 PM »
The 10mm S&W caliber is unpopular in the EU because there is less choice of cartridges compared to the 9mm Luger and the price is higher. In addition, many 9mm Luger cartridges are now available that are equivalent to the performance of 10mm S&W.

Can you provide links to these examples of 9mm ammo that are equivalent to the performance of 10mm? I'd like to see the ballistic breakdown on these rounds.

While there are some examples out there of fairly 'weak' 10mm loads that are more akin to 40 S&W, I have yet to come across a true, full-power 10mm load that is 'equivalent' to anything I've seen chambered in 9mm in terms of terminal ballistics, including +P/NATO. There's a reason most handgun hunters, at least in N. America, who choose a semi-auto to hunt with also choose 10mm. I can't say I know any handgun hunters who opt for 9mm.

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2021, 01:39:37 PM »
I don't doubt prices for .40 S&W and 10mm might be more expensive in Europe, but I just returned from the York, Pa. gun show and 9mm was at a minimun $10.00 more expensive than 10mm. Choices for 10mm were on a par with 9mm choices at this particular show. I am not stating in general. 9mm FMJ was averaging $50.00/box of 50. I picked up a box of 50 JHP 10mm for the same money. FMJ S&B 10mm was $40.00/box. Ammo is hot here. Local gun stores have 10mm Blazer Brass for $22.95/50 round box. 9mm, not so much.

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2021, 04:35:58 AM »
"Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?"
My answer is a clear NO.
I wrote already in another thread:
The 10mm S&W caliber is unpopular in the EU because there is less choice of cartridges compared to the 9mm Luger and the price is higher. In addition, many 9mm Luger cartridges are now available that are equivalent to the performance of 10mm S&W.
Furthermore, as a hunter in Germany, I am only allowed to own 2 handguns.  Therefore a pistol in a different, similar caliber makes no sense.  That's why both of my pistols are 9mm Luger. 
For the CZ P07 I also have an exchange system .22lr.

Just a nit, but I don't think 10 S&W is popular anywhere.  It is not a thing.

10mm is a tremendously versatile cartridge.  It can be loaded from powderpuff 40 levels to a level commonly compared to 357 magnum. 

I would be scared of a 9mm pushing almost 700 ftlb force/second at the muzzle.  My Silverback (5" barrel) pushes 650 to 700 with Federal Trophy Bonded.  I'm getting over 1000 ftlb force/sec out of Trophy Bonded in a 16" barreled carbine.


40 Smith & Wesson is a direct modification of 10mm.  Smith & Wesson downloaded and shortened the 10mm cartridge.  Brilliant move on their part because the shorter length opened up 9mm sized frames to the new cartridge.  So S&W didn't bring us 10mm.
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Offline Hammer Time

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Re: Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?
« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2021, 10:21:31 AM »
When I write 10mm S&W, I mean .40 S&W, not 10mm Auto. 10mm Auto is an exotic caliber in Germany, at the moment I don't know any pistol that is available in this caliber in Germany.


Ok, now I understand your comments a little better. I'm not referring to 40 S&W, I'm referring to full-power 10mm, which can be a significantly more powerful round, depending on how it is loaded, and is not really comparable to 9mm Luger at all.

And by the way, that's what this thread is about - a CZ pistol chambered to handle 10mm. There have been a number of CZ models in the past chambered for 40 S&W.