Would you buy a CZ in 10mm?

[Hammer Time]

Because 10mm Auto is a rarely used and as said an exotic caliber in Germany, 10mm is almost automatically equated with .40 S&W, especially since .40 corresponds to 10mm according to the metric system.
If the title of the thread had spoken of 10mm Auto, I also would have understood that better. 

Well, this has been educational. 

In N. America, at least, most people only say "10mm" when they obviously mean "10mm Auto" for the same reason most people only say "9mm" when they are referring "9mm Luger." It's assumed, unless you specify otherwise, like "9mm Makarov," for example. 40 S&W Wesson and 10mm Auto may share the same case head diameter, but nobody confuses the two, for the same reasons no one confuses .38 Special with .357 Magnum, even though they also share the same case head diameter. Diameter alone obviously isn't the only defining characteristic of a cartridge load.

[Steve Menegon]

What was the line in the movie Independence Day? "We got to work on our communication."

I read 10mm .40 S&W as two separate cartridges. See above. [emoji16]

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[buddyd157]

I am genuinely curious...what are your thoughts? I for one would LOVE to add a CZ in 10mm to my growing collection! Have fun and thanks for your input. 

NO..

9MM and ..45 ACP.

[floridaman]

I second the single stack 10mm as well

[Twltch]

Absolutely!!! I want a 10mm as a bear defense gun for hunting and hiking. Having one made by CZ is the ultimate dream. I would take it in the 97B, P10F, or P09. Running a good light and a compensator on the end of the P10F or P09 would do wonders in helping to tame the recoil of a heavy bear load. I got excited when i heard CZ Custom would be making a 97B…then i saw the $2.5-3K price. A CZ 10mm would be awesome, but at the CZC price i would rather just get a Glock 20 or build a Polymer 80 full size in 10mm.

[AZ_GunGuy]

I wanted to.  Tanfoglio already makes CZ clones in 10MM.

What I would really like is a P09 style frame in 10MM.  Then I could say goodbye to the meh ergos of my 10MM glock...

[Laufer]

Only If - whether now, or in previous “normal” times - the Cheapest 10 mm Ammo prices were similar to the Cheapest 9mm ammo.

[Philipl]

[Dutch70]

I've been shooting and reloading the 10 for over 25 years or so, or whenever Smith came out with the 1006. It replaced my 4" .357's as a woods gun. I've loaded it from 135 to 200 grains.

A Razorback loaded with 200 gr., hardcast was on my hip while up north videoing a small grizzly with two cubs a couple of weeks ago.

I have 2 Dan Wesson's and would purchase a p10 10mm in a heartbeat. I'm patiently waiting for it but I have my eye out for a 4.25 " Springfield at the moment, which seem to be very scarce. I'd also consider a steel frame CZ in 10mm at a reasonable price. There are plenty of Glocks available but I don’t care for them.

[Tinker Black]

I would be interested in buying a 10mm CZ if it were competitive in price w/ comparable 10mm Tanfoglio & Glock models. E.g., a CZ 97B in 10mm should not be more than $750 max.

[Dutch70]

I've been searching for an optic ready P-10c and I stumbled across a 97B that had been converted to 10mm using a Barsto barrel. This was on a major gun dealer website and was some sort of limited run edition. Unfortunately I can't recall the website. But the price was around $1085 or thereabouts IIRC so it caught my eye. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the $2500 + model that was written about a while back. Of course it was out of stock but it caught my eye.

Who knows whether or not a new barrel and RSA would work on the 97B, I don't have the knowledge, skill, inclination or money to find out. But as others have previously stated I would get in line for a factory P-10, P-09 or 97B at a reasonable price. It requires some engineering skill to get every thing just right to fire heavy 10mm reliably. Something along the lines of the Sig 220, which I'd like to try too if I could find a spare $1750-$2k, I'd want the DA/SA version, especially since I have a couple of 1911's in 10mm. I did see factory CZ P-10's in .40 S&W advertised which I didn't think existed. I think it was on Sportsman's Warehouse IIRC. Out of stock of course. But it gave me hopes that CZ engineers may have been tinkering with the .40 in the P-10 platform.

I have a renewed interest in a .45 range pistol so I may check out the 97B, but I've never handled one.

[YRlord56]

I will definitely buy a CZ  in 10mm caliber, what a better way to have new fun and experience.

[meistermash]

I would be in for a Cz anything in 10mm.
Probably not the 97bd as much as another choice.
My current 10mm's are tanfoglio, pf45 Glock 20, kimber and Dan Wesson.
I prefer the Tanfoglio witness 45 to my Cz 97bd.

[Vinnie45acp]

I think the CZ97 platform would be a GREAT platform for the 10mm round.  I'm surprised CZ hasn't gone this route and did a 97 in 10mm.

[CJB]

In 1985, Irving Stone made a run of barrels for Colt in 10mm.  He sold me one of the over-runs.  He also pointed me to to Huntington Die Specialties for a die set, which they made up for me.  It was marked "10mm Bren".  Speer had one, and only one box of 10mm pistol bullets.  Irv told me that they were able to modify the Wilson magazine to feed the 10mm "ok".  With that, the project was on.

I opened up the breech face of a 38Super Colt slide, fit the barrel to that slide and an existing frame, and loaded up some test shots with Blue Dot starting with 38Super load data (oh heck, there was nothing on the radar for data in those days).  Things worked, but it was sort of anemic. 

Two things happened when I loaded up a little warmer.  First, the Wilson magazines needed more tweakage, and stronger springs.  What was happening is that a loaded cartridge would fly out of the ejection port along with an empty.  Sometimes, the next one in the mag would feed, but usually not.  Second, I started to consider slide velocity.  Conservation of momentum being what it is, I considered ways to add weight to the slide.  My solution was one of those "barrel bushing" comps, which really are nothing more than weight on the slide.  I forget who made it.  Probably Wilson.  Its weight was a near perfect offset to the added slide velocity that otherwise would have occurred.  Hot 10mm, cartridges now resulted in the same slide velocity as the 45ACP.   And yes, I had a 10mm "Government Model" before Colt released theirs.  Nobody calle 'em 1911's back then.

So why the story?  Because I don't think anyone has really devised a good 10mm handgun yet.  Double springs, flat wound springs, buffers and gizmos don't really and fully overcome the obstacles, nor make for a handgun that will have really great life expectancy.

Therefore.... 10mm in a handgun gets no nod of tacit approval from me.