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Offline Dan_69GTX

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So, sorting range brass yesterday and I got to thinking - what other things should I be looking for when sorting brass cases to decide if it is scrap?

Not talking about missing primer, bulges, cracks, etc - talking about design flaws - such as the stepped 9mm junk or berdan primers

Before someone states about avoiding steel and aluminum, that would already been taken care of since I'm asking about brass cases.   ;)
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Brass with crimped primers. Unless your press can handle them.



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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2020, 07:52:29 PM »
Toss any brass with the head stamp AMERC.

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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 08:11:41 PM »
Toss any brass with the head stamp AMERC.

what is the issue with these?
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 08:25:22 PM »
I run all my 9MM reloads through a Dillon case gauge before using them in practice or competition.  I have never been able to get the 9MM brass with this head stamp to gauge consistently.  Way too many rejects.  I got to the point where I sort by head stamp and cull all the AMERC brass and stepped cases.

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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2020, 10:01:27 PM »
Xtreme makes brass coated steel cases. It looks like regular brass cases but it’s actually steel. The only way to find out is by running a magnet through your brass pile to pick them out.


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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 07:37:22 AM »
Xtreme makes brass coated steel cases. It looks like regular brass cases but it’s actually steel. The only way to find out is by running a magnet through your brass pile to pick them out.

True - I do that (run a magnet through) as I'm sorting cases and have a magnet on the tube from the case feeder.  Thanks.
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Brass with crimped primers. Unless your press can handle them.


Nice pic - thanks!
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 07:39:07 AM »
Toss any brass with the head stamp AMERC.

Good to know - I don't know if I've ever run across this brass.  What caliber does this head stamp come in?
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 05:20:11 PM »
Stepped cases...

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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 06:07:33 PM »
^^ Those look allot like the cases that i got from Freedom Munitions a few years back.
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2020, 09:14:53 PM »
I run all my 9MM reloads through a Dillon case gauge before using them in practice or competition.  I have never been able to get the 9MM brass with this head stamp to gauge consistently.  Way too many rejects.  I got to the point where I sort by head stamp and cull all the AMERC brass and stepped cases.

thanks for the clarification
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2020, 08:26:21 AM »
So other than stepped cases as I mentioned in my first post the only other brass case to be wary of is the one with "AMERC" headstamp.  Doing a google search it appears others have issues with the "AMERC" cases as well.

Thanks to all who responded.
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2020, 11:58:58 AM »
Maybe another warning that not all steel cases are Russian green with Berdan primers.

Here's some "brass" S&B cases my magnet picked up...




Obviously they are brass plated steel, but without a magnet you'd never know. In my ignorance I had already dry tumbled them twice and reloaded these once !! Now a magnet is fitted to my case feeder so that each case has to pass near it to get into the loading que. Since then a third case has appeared.

The more devious they get, the smarter we need to be.
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Re: Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2020, 01:54:27 PM »
Wobbly,  You should sell those magnets at matches - being able to pick up brass cases and leave the dirt behind would net you a lot of $$$.  When it picks up the obvious steel cases - just tell them it is a design flaw in the magnet and it will be fixed in version 2.0!   ::)
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