cz 83 .32 acp magazine ejecting during firing

[eastman]

Does anyone know if the magazine release spring is the same for the 82,83 and 84?

I am not familiar with a CZ 84. More info?

Maybe he’s thinking of the Beretta 84. Beretta’s Cheetah series (equivalent to the CZ83/82) also have model numbers 82, 83, and 84 in the lineup. Although the Beretta 82 and 83 are pretty much unobtanium in the US.

that's similar to what I was thinking

[bonj]

http://leolani.net/relics/cz82.html
The above site has a CZ82 with good step by step instructions and photos.
I furnished it to the shop who re-blued mine. He said it was very helpful, but Part #42 was a bear.

#42 (slide stop spring) is a piece of cake to install for the old style sickle shaped spring. All you need to do is partially drive the trigger guard roll pin about an 1/8 of an inch into the frame from the side where the spring sits. Then you just place the spring into its hole on the slide stop with a pair of tweezers and hook the sickle portion over the exposed part of the roll pin you just partially drove into the frame. Once the spring is resting correctly on the pin you just drive the roll pin the rest on the way in. It might shift the spring a little bit but you just need to push it back over to the wall of the frame so the trigger guard doesn’t crush it when you snap it back into the frame.

I find the L-shaped spring on the newer 83s a lot harder. I think they changed the slide stop spring design around 2000 or so. There is a little hole drilled in the frame on those guns where the short end sits, then the roll pin keeps it from popping out of its hole. It is under spring tension when in that hole and needs to be held down while the roll pin is drove in, which requires 3 hands pretty much. I think I had to have my wife tap the roll pin in for me while I held the L-shaped spring into its hole with a jewelers screwdriver last time I had to install one.

How do you do this with the limited space available?......."it might shift the spring a little bit but you just need to push it back over to the wall of the frame so the trigger guard doesn’t crush it when you snap it back into the frame." I can get the spring back in the under tension position without driving any pins, but every time I snap the trigger guard back in place, the spring and doesn't sit within the radius groove as designed and knocks it out of place. It must be a step by step process that I am doing wrong.

[afultz075]

Check that the spring is not bent inwards. If you snap the guard on it once the spring is likely to become permanently distorted and it will give you issues until you replace it. The spring must hug the inside wall of the frame so it can sit in the little notch on the trigger guard.

[bonj]

Does any one know what would cause the CZ 83 .32 acp magazine to ejecting during firing. I had one mag eject prematurely on the last round and another with about three rounds left. Both mags appear to be clean and functional.

After further investigation, I have the same issue on one of my other 83's, only if using a select few of my slightly different looking mags, where the round count numbers are missing on the back side and/or the recessed stamping appears to have been ground down to flat?  Odd thing is that they function perfectly in one of my other 83's. I also notice the first 83 has a bit more slop in the frame to slide fit, compared to the other 83, where in the very same mags work normally. Did the 83's from the same Manufacture date have different tolerances or is one just more "worn" ? Both guns look in excellent condition externally.   

[ILpaul]

There are [2] styles of slide stop spring (#42). One is "L" shaped and the other is "hook" shaped.
I sent additional info about these styles to the gentleman re-bluing my 83. You can PM me, and I'll send it to you.
Here is some more info:

Slide stop. If the trigger guard latch pin (40) is a roll pin (hollow split pin) then just drive it out, and the slide stop spring (42) and the slide stop (41) will fall out. Note that the spring isn't shaped like in the diagram. It curves over the top of the trigger guard latch pin.
If the trigger guard latch pin (40) is a solid pin, then it has a slot for the slide stop spring and it's smaller at one end so it only goes out one way. Lift (or press) the slide stop spring from the slot and the pin slides out. If you just drive out either the trigger guard latch pin or the slide stop, the spring will be destroyed.

[bonj]

Does any one know what would cause the CZ 83 .32 acp magazine to ejecting during firing. I had one mag eject prematurely on the last round and another with about three rounds left. Both mags appear to be clean and functional.

After a range visit today with my non-modified looking mags, I had no issues whatsoever. Apparently the mags were the issue, not the gun.

[scotsal]

Old thread but very, very good info. FYI--My slide stop spring (old-style) fell out during a mag catch spring change and it kept popping out just as I snapped the trigger guard into place. UGH! By the 4th try, I made sure it was flat against the frame and then put a dab (using a toothpick) of clear nail polish on the hook were it rested on the roll pin. All good now.

[bonj]

Wow! I'll have to remember that. Hopefully :-)