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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2020, 09:48:52 AM »
1. One of the "facts of life" when shooting someone else's ammo (or even goodly quantities of factory ammo) is that you sincerely need to review....
• Squib rounds
• Second strike / high primer rounds
• Slam fire rounds
• Hang fire rounds

That's roughly the order of occurrence too.

You don't need to check for this with military ammo because it goes through a hundred more tests and checks that civilian ammo doesn't. So complacency and simply 'not knowing' are your worst enemies.


2. Part of that personal education is to be aware that CZ pistols have extremely short freebore chambers. As such, you need to be very skeptical of any new-to-you ammo. Always remove the barrel from the gun and do the drop-in, spin freely, and drop-out tests before you buy (if possible). This is why we suggest you take your naked barrel with you to Walmart or your LGS when ammo shopping locally. The simple truth is: Not all ammo offered for sale will safely fit the CZ chamber.

When ammo is too long for the CZ chamber, then the gun may be allowed to fire Out Of Battery (OOB), that is... with the chamber only partially closed. That may lead to case wall blow out, and the ensuing shower of hot gas and brass bits. Those occurrences will typically end the life of a polymer gun... and result in more trips to PT.  :P




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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2020, 11:12:44 AM »
That's an excellent write up. Thank you for that.

Military definitely hasn't helped with my complacency. Just jam mags and go back to clearing rooms and firing. Allowed to cross over into my civilian life. Embarrassing, so thanks for giving me a wake up call in this.

Just being ignorant and assuming that rounds from major manufacturers are "plug-in-play". Now I do know from time to time even major manufacturers ammo can be out of spec. That i am fully aware of...

REM ammo has always put me on edge but with shortage of ammo around the country its forced my hand to buy it so I can keep my skills up...

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2020, 11:25:07 AM »
Let me get my popcorn this is going to be a good one.

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2020, 11:28:10 AM »
Let me get my popcorn this is going to be a good one.

LMAO! let's pray it's a boring flick and you walk out disappointed

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2020, 02:07:16 PM »
Let me get my popcorn this is going to be a good one.


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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2020, 02:34:45 PM »
Just being ignorant and assuming that rounds from major manufacturers are "plug-in-play". Now I do know from time to time even major manufacturers ammo can be out of spec. That i am fully aware of...


Lucky for you, ignorance (like epoxy) can be cured.   ;D

Just read my magnum opus HERE, especially the introductory Background section. You'll be up to full speed in no time and able to leap tall meplats in a single bound.

But wait that's not all !! When you pass the classroom portion and send in your 2 "specially marked" box tops, you'll also receive a diploma as a Certified Ammo Snob which will allow you to laugh out loud at people buying ammo in Walmart.


Special operators are standing by now, so get your diploma today !
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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2020, 03:49:34 PM »
Now that was some serious data that you wrote up and very well explained. Even I understood it. Lots of nomenclature that i didnt even know that a single round had.

Definitely adding that page to my favorites so I can reference it for whatever reason. I dont think I'll personally ever get into reloading my own ammo but still very very helpful..thank you.

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2020, 04:04:03 PM »
Okay, so far I tested 100 rds out of 250 and all slide into the barrel and out of the barrel just fine. They all were flush as well when seated.

The only concern i have is that a few so far when set upright the round would rock unlike the others. The round was put on a granite slab that I know is certified flat.

Forgot how to attach pictures otherwise I'd post pics of what I mean..

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2020, 04:18:07 PM »
Okay figured out pics..heres an illustration of what I mean by "rocking"

https://imgur.com/1gzXdYl

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2020, 05:32:23 PM »
The primers on the rounds that are rocking are 'proud'.

Not ideal, but not a deal killer, either.

They'll likely take a second strike to fire.

Sort them out and shoot them all at the same time, or leave them in the mix and check your flinch. :D
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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2020, 05:50:33 PM »
Okay, so far I tested 100 rds out of 250 and all slide into the barrel and out of the barrel just fine. They all were flush as well when seated.


But do they spin when head spaced (all the way into the chamber) ?
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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2020, 05:51:58 PM »
Okay, so far I tested 100 rds out of 250 and all slide into the barrel and out of the barrel just fine. They all were flush as well when seated.


But do they spin when head spaced (all the way into the chamber) ?

Yes sir. Dropped in smoothly, flush and spin

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2020, 01:22:47 PM »
Yes sir. Dropped in smoothly, flush and spin


Then those few high primers are your only concern.... if the PF is to your liking.
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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2020, 01:23:47 PM »
PF??

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Re: Remanufactured ammo
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2020, 02:24:17 PM »
Power Factor

I combination of bullet weight and speed. 
A 115 gr bullet traveling at 850 fps will have less PF then a 115 gr going 1000 fps.

Bullet weight X velocity...then divided by 1000 equals PF